Baucus Open To Filibustering Gun Bill Debate

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT), who is up for reelection in 2014, kept his options open Tuesday to filibuster debate on gun control legislation, even as numerous Republicans said they'll vote to begin debate.

"I want to see what's before the Senate. I don't know what's in the bill," Baucus told reporters in the Capitol. "My primary focus is the people of Montana. They're my employers."

TPM pressed him on whether he'll vote for a motion to begin debate.

"That's to be determined," he said. "My primary emphasis is the people I work for, and that's Montanans."

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[valerief]

1. What a fuckin' waste of space that Baucus is. nt

[alsame]

2. The people of Montana

object to debate? I can't stand this SOB.

[hrmjustin]

3. This guy is a big disappointment!!!

[villager]

4. Baucus is yet more evidence we have only one big, shitty political party in the US.

Those espousing the laughable notion we have "two" are both hilarious, and sad.

[truebrit71]

9. ^^^This

[Salviati]

5. With public opinion so much in favor of reasonable gun safty requirements, it's going to hurt them..

... a lot to get on the floor of the senate and publicly rail against regulations supported by 90% of the public...

Oh wait, they won't have to. Fuck you Harry Reid, you and the other spineless democrats who opposed filibuster reform.

[former9thward]

16. I don't know where the 90% comes from.

The latest polling shows 52% of public is opposed to new gun regulations. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/04/08/rel4a.pdf

[frylock]

19. Over 90 percent of Americans support gun background checks: poll

More than 90 percent of U.S. voters supported background checks for all gun buyers, while much smaller majorities were for stricter gun control laws such as bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, said a poll released on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/07/us-usa-guns-poll-idUSBRE9160LW20130207

[former9thward]

22. Well I guess we have dueling polls.

Depending on what and how a question is asked you could get 90% of the executive staff of the NRA to say they favor "gun control".

[frylock]

24. ask the right question, and 110% of the populace is commie pinko firebaggers

[Bandit]

25. Maybe you could show us a poll where less than 90% want background checks....

It has been very steady over the last several weeks. OVER 90% favor background checks....There is different results for other aspects of the gun safety discussion now going on, but background checks is favored by almost all..

[former9thward]

33. The issue is not background checks.

As I said it depends on what is in the question that is asked. The issue is making a record of those checks and thus creating a national gun registry. Like everything in life the devil is in the details. You may favor a national registration. I don't.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

28. They just make it up.

[Moostache]

6. I am Jack's Total Lack of Surprise...(n/t)

[Laurian]

7. Guess I need to send another email.....my fingers are

soon going to be bloody stumps. Every time one of these assholes says something like this, I am compelled to write and remind them to VOTE. They were sent there to debate and VOTE, not obstruct.

[lsewpershad]

8. So the people in Montana

want what? No vote, no debate....what about the rest of the people in other states. This guy needs to go.

[riverbendviewgal]

10. What a pitifil man

and his state and his congress.


He deserves the boot.

[premium]

11. The people of Montana don't think so.

He's pretty popular there.

[xtraxritical]

14. In Montana they need the assault rifles to stop the wolves and bears.

[premium]

15. What's that got to do with my comment?

Montana has a long and rich firearms history, maybe Sen. Baucus is just doing what his constituents want him to do, I have no idea as I don't live there.

[frylock]

21. did his constituents want him to renew the Patriot Act?

what about IWR? it's a chickenshit excuse these fuckers use when they're too scared to do the right thing. they don't give two fucking shits about their constituents. they care about the green, and that's it. moreover, if his constituents don't want it, then he can simply vote NO. this shitlump doesn't even want any debate to reach the floor.

[xtraxritical]

31. Thanks frylock I did not want to bother with a reply. I own some property in Mt. too.

[riverbendviewgal]

34. I live in northern Ontario...plenty rural

We have bears, moose, wolves etc...I have my firearms license...I have friends who hunt. NO ONE has an assault rifle...We look at the USA lovers who want assault guns as real nut cases...

They belong in the Philippines where 70 percent of the people have guns, including children.

Watch the new HBO series VICE...this week it shows what the Philippine people do and how much they love their guns.

I pity America....The country is turning into the Philippines.

[sulphurdunn]

35. What exactly is a "long and rich

firearms history?"

[russspeakeasy]

12. If killing babies is ok, is baby raping still a crime ?

[Aquavit]

23. If there was a baby raping lobby paying his way, it probably would be just fine by him. n/t

[Kelvin Mace]

13. Of course he is...

Another Vichy Dem in action.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. Park the elephant that was hit in drive by shooting outside the Capitol buildings in DC.

How do you explain the NRA and well regulated militia to an elephant? Oh wait, those elephants wear suits and eat caviar.

[NickB79]

18. Maybe Bloomberg should run a few ads against him

Then we can get a nice, new Republican from Montana in office.

I'm sure that would make everyone very happy, right? Right?

Face it, he's a Democratic Senator from a historically red state. The fact that he was elected at all was a bit of a shock at the time. It's either him, someone just like him, or a Republican. There is almost no one in political office in Montana would could support gun control and win in his state.

I'm constantly amazed by people here who expect every Democratic legislator from every corner of the US to have the exact same viewpoint on topics like guns. A Democratic senator from rural Montana is not going to see gun control the same way a Democratic senator from inner-city Chicago will. The outrage in this thread over his stance is exactly why I'm so grateful they dropped their push for a federal assault weapons and high-cap mag ban; with that in the bill we as a party would have to kiss many seats in red and purple states like Montana goodbye for a long, long time to come.

[DonP]

26. Bravo!

The only reason we have held control of the Senate is because the party worked hard to recruit pro gun Democrats in Red states and supported them to win and hold their seats.

Now everybody wants 100% lock step agreement on gun control.

Would you rather give up the Senate and maybe even lose seats in the House in 2014? But you'll be pure of heart?

Or keep the Senate, and maybe even take back the house with some less than "pure" Dems?

Now let's all sit back and applaud Bloomberg as he runs ads against Dems in primaries and general elections, if they don't agree with his version of gun control.

[fredamae]

29. I'd prefer No More

people be slaughtered--like the kids at Sandy Hook and the unwitting folks who die Everyday due to careless and crazed behavior.
I'd rather leave politics out of this issue, frankly.

Either our elected officials will rise to do as their constituents ask, or they will support the NRA, follow Their demands and then there will be political backlash or not.

[LiberalLoner]

30. Thank you. I'm from Montana and you are speaking truth to power.

[frylock]

20. did Montanans also want a renewed Patriot Act, Max?

so sick and tired of that bullshit excuse.

[fredamae]

27. At Least 28 of his former aides

are now tax lobbyists--with connections like that...........
I believe Baucus also carries an "A" or "A+" rating from NRA?

A "Democrat" he is not--just "self-labled" himself as one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/07/at-least-28-of-max-baucuss-former-aides-are-now-tax-lobbyists/

[L0oniX]

32. Baucus is the example of just how far the party has moved right.

He's so far right that he'd be a centrist in the GOP.