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TexasTowelie

(112,150 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:31 AM Apr 2013

Rocker Ted Nugent addresses legislative hearing

Source: AP

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Passions soared. Voices were raised. Somebody even talked about stripping down to a loin cloth.

And that was before the crowd heard from Ted Nugent.

Standing before the Texas House Committee on Culture, Recreation & Tourism on Wednesday, the rocker best known for 1970s hits such as "Cat Scratch Fever" provided the crescendo to a debate on hunting deer raised in captivity.

Established nearly a century ago as a conservation measure, deer breeding has become a $650 million business in the state, according to researchers at Texas A&M University. Some ranchers, outfitters and guides have come to rely on breeders to provide animals selected for their outsize antlers.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Rocker-Ted-Nugent-addresses-legislative-hearing-4407729.php



Cross-posted in Texas Group.
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Rocker Ted Nugent addresses legislative hearing (Original Post) TexasTowelie Apr 2013 OP
You're gonna shoot a deah?! tblue Apr 2013 #1
You forgot two words at the beginning of that title. Deep13 Apr 2013 #2
Known for hits such as "Cat scratch fever"… MrSlayer Apr 2013 #3
He is willing to be a rightwing poster boy....that's all you need apparently. Moostache Apr 2013 #7
Explain things like Victoria Jackson? Fuddnik Apr 2013 #8
That is as good as anything I could come up with! Moostache Apr 2013 #9
Excellent !!! Champion Jack Apr 2013 #29
Texas has culture? Aristus Apr 2013 #4
Thanks for leaving. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #14
Thanks for staying. n/t tabasco Apr 2013 #21
My pleasure. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #24
You're welcome. n/t Aristus Apr 2013 #25
Of course Texas has culture Mr.Bill Apr 2013 #41
He promised to be The Wizard Apr 2013 #5
They "hunt" capitive animals released 10 days earlier? Moostache Apr 2013 #6
+1,000 narnian60 Apr 2013 #26
It's horrible, it's shameful, and it's inhumane. hamsterjill Apr 2013 #37
Perhaps the headline should read "Off his Rocker Ted Nugent..." nt MADem Apr 2013 #10
"Pants-Shitting Draft Dodger Child-Raper Wet Turd-Smear Ted Nugent..." lastlib Apr 2013 #28
I think you're selling him short... Deep13 Apr 2013 #39
A jack wag from Michigan is now an expert in Texas....... Historic NY Apr 2013 #11
There were 25 million deer in America ... Kolesar Apr 2013 #13
Wrong. tabasco Apr 2013 #23
Also, deer have become partially domesticated. (adapted to living in proximity to humans). yellowcanine Apr 2013 #30
I heard it on NPr Kolesar Apr 2013 #32
Did he (R) tell them how he dodged the draft? Berlum Apr 2013 #12
Canned Hunt just us Apr 2013 #15
What I really 'love' about modern hunters is the 'baiting'. You feed sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #17
Another reason to avoid Texas. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #16
Thanks for avoiding my state. Must be nice, there in oh-so-progressive Arkansas. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #18
I spent a little over two years in Southlake. And I'm boycotting several sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #19
Thanks again. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #20
You're welcome. sinkingfeeling Apr 2013 #22
You know ... Trajan Apr 2013 #27
So true.. We have family in Texas and we love them mountain grammy Apr 2013 #35
You Do Me No Offense By Trashing Perry, Cruz, et al. Paladin Apr 2013 #42
A big hug from Kansas. MuseRider Apr 2013 #45
Hang in there, and thanks for the encouragement. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #47
I think we should just all agree that Ted Nugent is an arsehole and not devote any more yellowcanine Apr 2013 #31
Ted must be eating to much of his steriod filled pet animals he shoots in a cage. Sunlei Apr 2013 #33
That explains the nastier than usual stench around my hometown that day...N/T radarluv Apr 2013 #34
650 million to mutant animal breeders and taxpayers are required to pay to Sunlei Apr 2013 #36
Ted Nugent - Sportsman rdharma Apr 2013 #38
Life imitates "Reality TeeVee." Gross. n/t TygrBright Apr 2013 #40
I would be very careful around Toilet Ted Wolf Frankula Apr 2013 #43
This is the month that Ted should be in jail or dead. 4bucksagallon Apr 2013 #44
Ted is no Texan. I thought you have to be born Texan. muntrv Apr 2013 #46
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
3. Known for hits such as "Cat scratch fever"…
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:49 AM
Apr 2013

Name another "hit" this asshole had. There aren't any hits, there's one song. How he managed to hang around this long is beyond me. He's not a standout player by any measure, he can't sing, his songs are juvenile crap that KISS laughs at…where is the appeal?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. He is willing to be a rightwing poster boy....that's all you need apparently.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:03 AM
Apr 2013

What the hell else could explain things like Victoria Jackson?

If there is any kind of name recognition AT ALL, and a willingness to say stupid things about Democrats or Progressives or Liberals of any stripe, then you are in like Flynn with the Knuckle-dragging, Mouth-breathing "base"...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. That is as good as anything I could come up with!
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:20 AM
Apr 2013

Maybe there's something in the right wing brain that really needs to hear grating, nasally voices to drown out the rest of the echoes in there? Kind of like listening to white noise to fall asleep?

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
4. Texas has culture?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:54 AM
Apr 2013

Shit, if I had known that, I might never have left.

In my post-Texas home, Washington State, you don't have to go looking for culture; it's everywhere!...

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
6. They "hunt" capitive animals released 10 days earlier?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:00 AM
Apr 2013

What the fuck kind of "sport" is that?

I must be missing something here. I do not live in Texas, I do not hunt deer and I do not see how this can possibly be true. I thought hunting was done in areas with NATIVE deer populations and was controlled to allow for adequate breeding populations or increased to cull herds that may have grown too large or become closer to farm land and the like?

So, in order to satisfy some kind of primal blood lust, these "hunters" track down likely sick or starving animals with no knowledge of their surroundings, which had until 10 days earlier been living in likely horrific breeding conditions and pumped full of antibiotics?

Damn, I always thought the was weak to use rifles and scopes and high powered ammunition in the first place (its not like the deer can fight back in any way); but now I see this, and realize they are also making sure that the animals are running around strange environments and without the advantages of a herd or familiarity with their habitat to actually have any chance at all.

Jesus Christ, why not just drug the animals, bring them to a firing squad line and let these sick motherfuckers execute their chosen buck with a 0.50 caliber rifle from point blank range?

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
37. It's horrible, it's shameful, and it's inhumane.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:33 AM
Apr 2013

I live in Texas and it makes me literally ill when I think about what is allowed to happen to these poor unsuspecting creatures.

If there is an overpopulation of a species, it is because of man's intervention in mother nature's perfect balance.

Anyone, man or woman, who feels "big" or "macho" or "tough" after participating in one of these canned hunts where the poor animal has no chance in hell of evading the hunter - that person is a jerk with no morals, no honor and certainly does not understand the Texas hunting culture that I grew up with. It's one thing to hunt for food. It is an entirely different thing to hunt merely to enjoy hurting something.

lastlib

(23,222 posts)
28. "Pants-Shitting Draft Dodger Child-Raper Wet Turd-Smear Ted Nugent..."
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

...is the way it should read.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
39. I think you're selling him short...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:53 AM
Apr 2013

He's also a misogynist, a traitor, and, like most cowards, a dangerous bully.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
11. A jack wag from Michigan is now an expert in Texas.......
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 06:23 AM
Apr 2013

deer breeding for hunting......another senseless waste. There are places in the US being over run with deer (white tail) and we have an industry that breeds them for canned hunts. I don't see the sport in that.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
13. There were 25 million deer in America ...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:29 AM
Apr 2013

...the last time I heard any data. The population seventy years ago was only 25,000.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
23. Wrong.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:03 AM
Apr 2013
A century ago, commercial exploitation, unregulated hunting and poor land-use practices, including deforestation, severely depressed deer populations in much of their range. For example, by about 1930, the U.S. population was thought to number about 300,000.[43] After an outcry by hunters and other conservation ecologists, commercial exploitation of deer became illegal and conservation programs along with regulated hunting were introduced. The Associated Press reported in 2005 that estimates put the deer population in the United States at around 30 million.[44] Conservation practices have proved so successful that, in parts of their range, the white-tailed deer populations currently far exceed their carrying capacity and the animal may be considered a nuisance. The lack of natural predators (which normally cull young, sick or infirm specimens) has undoubtedly contributed to the locally abundant populations.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_deer

West Virginia and other eastern states were largely deforested in 1930. Forest restoration has improved deer population, not deer farms.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
30. Also, deer have become partially domesticated. (adapted to living in proximity to humans).
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:57 AM
Apr 2013

Deer didn't use to live in suburbs and in parks within city limits. Now they thrive there.

just us

(105 posts)
15. Canned Hunt
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:55 AM
Apr 2013

The majority of American deer hunters hunt private or public land in areas preserved for wilderness or wild. Some who do not like that competition lease hunting land.
The Texas canned hunt is sold on TV and INTERNET and is a promise of a large horned buck
to hang on your wall to prove your penis is the largest.
They are mainly to tell lies about.

sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
17. What I really 'love' about modern hunters is the 'baiting'. You feed
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:00 AM
Apr 2013

the deer for months, so they are dependent on it and don't fear coming into the feeding area. Then on the first day of the season, you sit up in a tree and shoot them when they come.

Yes siree, that's a real 'sport'.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
27. You know ...
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 10:36 AM
Apr 2013

I have always appreciated your stances in the Gungeon battles ... and while I understand your affected defense of your own state, you have to admit that the government of the state of Texas, as well as at least half of the constituents of that state, create a strong conservative political environment that is anathema to most of us Northern Liberals ...

What are we to do? ... ignore this extreme right wing thrust into the national polity because some of our friends happen to live there?

The government off the state of Texas is an absurd right wing circus that deserves whatever condemnation it receives, in spite of the fact that you and other Liberals live there ...

We have to be able to criticize that awful right wing government and their crazy supporters ... How do we do that without offending you?

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
35. So true.. We have family in Texas and we love them
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:17 AM
Apr 2013

but when they tell me I'm not a Christian because I voted for Obama, and most of the people I meet there feel the same way, I just have to point out this dangerous extremism. Texas is a big and powerful state, we should criticize their extreme beliefs, which are often used against the rest of us.
Hell, I lived in Texas for 8 years, my husband was born and mostly raised there. We are thrilled to live in Colorado, which has it's share of nuts too. I respect any liberal who has the fortitude to live in Texas, Colorado's enough of a challenge.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
42. You Do Me No Offense By Trashing Perry, Cruz, et al.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:08 PM
Apr 2013

I tend to blow a gasket when DU'ers condemn THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS as nothing more than a culture-deprived, third-world country, and its ENTIRE POPULATION as a bunch of ignorant, gun-crazed hicks---with the usual, tiresome exception of Austin, which, as everybody knows, is The Only Cool Place In Texas (in point of fact, Austin stopped being cool a good 30 years ago, but I digress). As a lifelong Democrat, I take such blanket insults personally, as do the rest of Texas DU'ers. You want to bad-mouth Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, Louie Gohmert, et al? Feel free---you won't be saying anything that me and my liberal Texas friends haven't been saying for a long time. We're here on the ground, trying to change things in our state from Red to Purple to Blue just as soon as possible. Are you and other Northern Liberals aware that Obama received over 3 million votes in 2012, and that Obama took most of the big cities (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and The Only Cool Place In Texas)? To come to Democratic Underground and get regularly insulted rather than encouraged in any way, gets really fucking old, really fucking fast. I trust I've made myself clear.....

MuseRider

(34,107 posts)
45. A big hug from Kansas.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
Apr 2013

Yup, it sucks here on DU most of the time right now because of the state I choose to live in. GREAT democrats here who look out of their Blue states and get their "oh aren't we so great" back patting trashing others. I wager most of them would not make it a year trying to change things here. Good for you. Keep working, you are a lot closer than we are up here to making the big switch to blue. Rooting for you.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
31. I think we should just all agree that Ted Nugent is an arsehole and not devote any more
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:00 AM
Apr 2013

bandwidth to discussing his various antics. What is the point?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. 650 million to mutant animal breeders and taxpayers are required to pay to
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:24 AM
Apr 2013

clean up damages outside their breeding ranches including the chronic wasting disease that came from these 'mighty hunters'

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
44. This is the month that Ted should be in jail or dead.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:54 PM
Apr 2013

I like the latter but either option works for me. As a veteran I am disgusted that NE1 would take this cowardly draft dodging chicken hawk seriously.

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