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JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:39 AM Apr 2013

Delaware Sen. Tom Carper Endorses Marriage Equality

Source: BuzzFeed

WASHINGTON — Delaware Sen. Tom Carper became the latest senator to endorse marriage equality Tuesday.

In a Facebook post, he wrote:

As our society has changed and evolved, so too has the public's opinion on gay marriage – and so has mine. I pray every day for God to grant me the wisdom to do what is right. Through my prayers and conversations with my family and countless friends and Delawareans, I've been reminded of the power of one of my core values: the Golden Rule. It calls on us to treat others as we want to be treated. That means, to me, that all Americans ultimately should be free to marry the people they love and intend to share their lives with, regardless of their sexual orientation, and that's why today, after a great deal of soul searching, I'm endorsing marriage equality.

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/delaware-sen-tom-carper-endorses-marriage-equality



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Delaware Sen. Tom Carper Endorses Marriage Equality (Original Post) JackBeck Apr 2013 OP
when I hear politicians talking about how they prayed about something or other Enrique Apr 2013 #1
most change because they feel the heat.... oldhippydude Apr 2013 #3
Carper does seem to be a rather religious man woodsprite Apr 2013 #4
thanks Enrique Apr 2013 #5
There is this great scene in the West Wing. iandhr Apr 2013 #6
Yay! shenmue Apr 2013 #2
It seems no Dem wants to be the last one. iandhr Apr 2013 #7
All this sudden conversion makes the Democrats look like opportunists, sorry to say. David__77 Apr 2013 #8
Of course they're opportunists. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #9
That's almost always true. David__77 Apr 2013 #11
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #12
K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #10

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
1. when I hear politicians talking about how they prayed about something or other
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:43 AM
Apr 2013

I don't always believe them.

woodsprite

(11,913 posts)
4. Carper does seem to be a rather religious man
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:58 AM
Apr 2013

I attended church with him for years and was a Sunday School music teacher to his kids for awhile. His whole family fully participated in church. Politically I do think that he tries very hard to compromise between sides. He was one of the main people behind the original idea for the DLC. May have been a good "idea", though it's been watered down and corrupted over the years.

He's a nice guy and a good man, but I've often said he reminds me of someone trying to ride the yellow line of politics right down the center of the road without wavering to either side much. Many other politicians in Delaware seem to do the same thing.

Edited to add: Ours was a heavily Dem Presbyterian church. He switched churches when we changed pastors for a short stint (that pastor did not get a contract renewal, too evangelical for us). Now we're back to a more liberal pastor. Hoping the Carpers come back.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. thanks
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:08 AM
Apr 2013

maybe he meant it after all. I recently found out, to my great surprise, that my 90-year-old father prays. I knew he went to church every week, but I thought it was just because he liked to talk all their ears off. He never seemed religious to me, at all. He may never have ever said the word God as far as I know. So you never know. Maybe the less they talk about it, the more sincere they are. Maybe the Carpers of the world are more likely to pray than the Huckabees and the Santorums.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
6. There is this great scene in the West Wing.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:21 AM
Apr 2013

Bartlett is talking to Vinick about religion. Vinick is telling the president about his doubts about Christianity. He says he doubts started after he read a bible that his wife gave him.


After their meeting Vinick tells the press "if you demand displays of faith from politicians you are begging to be lied too.


David__77

(23,372 posts)
8. All this sudden conversion makes the Democrats look like opportunists, sorry to say.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:55 AM
Apr 2013

Either is true:

1) Democrats formerly did support marriage equality, but were too cowardly to admit and lead the fight earlier on.
2) Democrats do not really care about marriage equality one way or the other, but will take the position enhancing their political position.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
11. That's almost always true.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:44 PM
Apr 2013

And Democratic activists should always bear that in mind. The elected officials are not the leaders, but rather the instruments.

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