Robertson: God gives less miracles to ‘too-educated Americans’ who learn science

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Raw Story

Robertson: God gives less miracles to ‘too-educated Americans’ who learn science
By David Edwards
Monday, April 1, 2013 14:19 EDT

Televangelist Pat Robertson on Monday explained to his viewers that “sophisticated” Americans received less miracles because they had learned “things that says God isn’t real” like evolution.

On Monday’s episode of CBN’s The 700 Club, Robertson responded to a viewer who wanted to know why “amazing miracles (people raised from the dead, blind eyes open, lame people walking) happen with great frequency in places like Africa, and not here in the USA?”

“People overseas didn’t go to Ivy League schools,” the TV preacher laughed. “We’re so sophisticated, we think we’ve got everything figured out. We know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that says God isn’t real.”

“We have been inundated with skepticism and secularism,” he conintued. “And overseas, they’re simple, humble. You tell ‘em God loves ‘em and they say, ‘Okay, he loves me.’ You say God will do miracles and they say, ‘Okay, we believe him.’”



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Rev. Pat, lifting weights[/center]

[lastlib]

1. All I can say is:

. .

God must love stoopid assholes, because He created so many of them.............

[iandhr]

14. +1

[DesertFlower]

32. i agree. nt

[wordpix]

106. roflmao too funny

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I know, I know, it is not comedy

but it should be.

[Walk away]

3. What about Dr. Ben Carson? He is extremely well educated yet he is an idiot who believes...

the Earth is 6,000 years old and that men and dinosaurs frolicked together! I think it's a miracle he got through medical school after hearing him speak. How does he fit into Pat's theory?

[McCamy Taylor]

4. No education equals poverty. Poverty equals praying for a miracle, because that's the best you can

hope for. Maybe Pat Robertson should give more of his money to the poor so that they can have a little more hope.

[tularetom]

5. Remember, Americans, God doesn't want you to be smart

Eternity will turn out a lot better for you if you just accept everything you are told by people like Pat Robertson instead of asking questions.

And don't clutter your minds with all that silly thinking. The bible tells you everything you need to know. Just keep sending money to Pat.

[AllyCat]

6. April Fools? Are we really supposed to just be "surprised" and "miracled" about everything?

There are still miracles, Rev Pat...We MAKE them.

[Kolesar]

7. And why do UFOs only land in trailer parks? eom

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

34. That's were the tinfoil hats are. Those things act like homing beacons.

[Kolesar]

38. Like tricorner radar reflectors that yachters hang in the rigging

"Tricorner" is no coincidence.

[Generic Other]

46. Those are twisters

not UFOs. Them crop circles weren't made by no aliens!

[Warpy]

52. And why does god never speak to the SANE?

And why did most of the miracles disappear with the invention of film?

So many questions, Pat, and no answers from you except to discard all that book larnin so you can parasite off us.

[Brainstormy]

81. so they can beat out

the tornadoes?

[L0oniX]

8. Blessed are those that believe without seeing. BQ. n/t

[Psephos]

9. What a tool. n/t

[sakabatou]

10. God wants dumb people

[ReRe]

11. If I had to name ten shows that should NOT be on TV OR radio.....

... I would have to say Pat Robertson to all ten. What a false Profit.

[Orsino]

12. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny...

...visit Jewish and Muslim families less often too.

[savannah43]

13. “And overseas, they’re simple, humble..."

Yeah. Like turkeys who stand outside in a rain storm looking up at the sky, thus drowning in rain that runs into their nostrils and lungs.
Pat Robertson--president of "Fools for God." Send your contributions to him faithfully.

[formercia]

15. Your reward will be in Heaven

but not in this Lifetime. Get back to work, slave.

[truthisfreedom]

16. Translation: Sophisticated people don't send me money.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Bingo! n/t

[tom2255]

17. Religious kooks

are just unbelievable with their superstition.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. Robertson prefers idiots that will give him money to the educated who...

will not donate money to a man full of shit.

[AAO]

19. With everything else - a dunce too?

[benld74]

20. Which MUST be the main miracle why this fool is still being quoted and followed,,,,,,

[MindPilot]

21. Well, shit!

I believed my mom; I put years of effort into studying and learning in the hopes of a well-paying career and a comfortable retirement. Turns out all I did was screw myself out of the miracles that would have come my way had I remained simple and humble.

[OnyxCollie]

22. Bread goes in; toast comes out.

It's a miracle!

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

36. For it to be a miracle you need a Jesus Toaster

http://jesustoasters.com/

[Nika]

116. Oh my, I so don't want a Jesus toaster.

But thanks so much for the chuckle.

[name not needed]

118. Not necessarily.

[OnyxCollie]

119. LOL! nt

[DhhD]

23. So according to Robinson, God pushes away his children because they are well educated. Blasphemy.

He is speaking for himself. He projects himself as God. Mankind should turn, run away and never look back toward a heart of salt.

[kestrel91316]

24. This "God" sounds like a real nasty guy. I refuse to worship him.

He doesn't deserve it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Electricity

[progressoid]

45. Oh my dog!

I wish I had not read that.

I weep for our society.

[lunasun]

58. Bring forth my closet light to shine on me oh Lord

I do not know how it happens or where this tiny switch on the wall leads to but it is a miracle that every time I flip it - light shines and is brought forth in my closet. Mystery and Miracle

Movement of the earth?? Silly critters dident des noe its duh sun that is moving around the blessed earth standing still
Heretics!! Burn this book! It is evil and mentions "scientists"
The girl is in a known witch pose in front of a black candle and observe her towels and soap dish are black with red soap!!!
Reading the book is inciting black magic.
Do you need any more proof to remove this literature from your home now??

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. How versus What

[DollarBillHines]

27. Thanks for clearing that up for me, Pat

I, for one, will sleep better tonight.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Bosons

[Kolesar]

40. Higgs-Boson marriage to split

That was an actual teaser and an April Fool's joke I saw on the Science Channel this morning.

[Thumper79]

85. Higgs-Boson has given religious people a sense of satisfaction

It's funny. The scientist who finally found the Higgs-Boson wanted to call it the goddamned particle.
In his popular book The God Particle: If the Universe is the Answer, What is the Question?, first published in 1993, American physicist Leon Lederman (writing with Dick Teresi) explained why he’d chosen this title:

"This boson is so central to the state of physics today, so crucial to our final understanding of the structure of matter, yet so elusive, that I have given it a nickname: the God Particle. Why God Particle? Two reasons. One, the publisher wouldn’t let us call it the Goddamn Particle, though that might be a more appropriate title, given its villainous nature and the expense it is causing. And two, there is a connection, of sorts, to another book, a much older one…"
http://tinyurl.com/d99btks

[Kolesar]

86. I have *not* been keeping up with science

Physics and astronomy used to be so compelling to me. Now, I'm just listening to old music and bouncing in and out of a state of anxiety.

"Is this Horrible?
Is this Horrible?
It's the ugliness men, Mr. Horrible
We're just trying to bug you
We thought that our dreadfulness
Might be a thing to annoy you with"

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/2659/#EYLWuU3U1WVy2fdG.99

[valerief]

29. "Too-educated" people don't believe in miracles, that's why. Duh. nt

[Vinnie From Indy]

30. Well it seems obvious that sophisticated people that understand

basic science do not fall to their knees and thank god when the lights come on after flipping the switch.

Robertson is a mean old POS.

[savebigbird]

31. April Fools?

I hope this is an April Fools thing...

[daleo]

33. Well, I have been given very few toast related miracles

As an educated person, I do find the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics pretty spooky, though.

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

37. Check the video in post 36 and for other toast related miracles go to...

http://jesustoasters.com/

[daleo]

92. Those are pretty cool

Flying Spaghetti Monster would be a great addition to their pantheon of toast.

[Tyrs WolfDaemon]

95. If you check their store, they have one

http://jesustoasters.com/index.php/buy-toasters#!/~/product/category=1967607&id=19543154

[Skraxx]

35. For Proof See: "The Gods Must Be Crazy"

n/t

[trusty elf]

41. God says things isn't real?

Is our children learning?

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[undeterred]

42. God went to one of those christian colleges where they din't teach no science

and He's had a chip on His shoulder about it ever since.

[Botany]

43. so says the man with a BS from Washington & Lee and a JD from Yale

Pat should go back to conning old ladies out of their penchant checks.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. The Nile

[Andy Stanton]

47. To Quote Bugs Bunny

"What a maroon"

[Fumesucker]

66. I think Daffy Duck's quote is more appropriate

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

48. Where's the proof for those statements?

[santamargarita]

49. Is he the asshole that steals old ladies pensions...

to buy gold mining equipment?

[on point]

50. He may be right. Perhaps the more ignorant you are perhaps the more gullible

[tanyev]

51. Dang! Is that why Jesus has never appeared on my grilled cheese sandwich?

[NastyRiffraff]

53. Is this an April Fool's joke?

I know that's wishful thinking, but it's hard to fatghom how any educated being can be so dumb Disgusting.

[Duer 157099]

54. Shouldn't it be "fewer"?

[PD Turk]

62. +1

I was just thinking the same thing.... 'ol Pat must be experiencing a plethora of miracles as dumb as he is

[Orsino]

107. God doesn't give any miracles to smartasses who learn grammar. n/t

[Ilsa]

55. Pat doesn't know about Whitson's study of finding meaning in white noise.

http://notapastor.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/god-is-just-a-projection/

People who lack control tend to look for meaning in random events. It's human nature to create "God" and see miracles when random events occur.

[maxsolomon]

56. Evolution doesn't say "God isn't real"

It says that the Bible isn't literally true, and that the Monotheistic conception of God does not jibe with science. All of which threatens the legitimacy of huckster evangelical christianity.

We don't "receive" miracles because science allows us to understand that things which we previously thought were miracles ARE NOT MIRACLES.

What a small minded old man. If only someone had slipped him LSD 40 years ago...

[daybranch]

57. do not write off

This is exactly the type of hate practiced by Fox news to stir up the ignorants against the educated. Whether it is to get them to the pols to save the rich guy's money or -heck it is always about saving the rich guys money. This behavior has led to massacres in Africa, the middle east and the best known is in Cambodia.
Do not blow this off . It can be very damaging and very deadly. Confront it head on and talk to your neighbors and others in your communities . We are all human beings after all and we must stop these division tactics.

[lunasun]

61. yes "stinking ninth category" and all that

[winter is coming]

59. In a different century, this asshat would have been writing treatises

on the number of angels who can fit on the head of a pin. 'Cause, you know, if you accidentally step on a pin, it's good to know how many heavenly ambassadors you've just squished.

[Rain Mcloud]

60. Blessed

are the cheese makers.

[Rain Mcloud]

63. I almost forgot

courtesy of my friend bartcop.com.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

88. Remember,...you started it....

[Rain Mcloud]

91. Thanks for that!

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[Rain Mcloud]

93. One more cause i have love in my heart for the Doughboy.

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[Spitfire of ATJ]

96. A sad ending...

[Rain Mcloud]

98. Thanks!

I thought i had seen them all. LOL

[Odin2005]

64. Idiocracy, Christo-Fascist style.

[blkmusclmachine]

65. 2 + 2 = 5

Cuz Pat said so, dammit!

Who's buying Pat's tired old BS, anyway?

Oh, the McChurches!

[defacto7]

67. Think about it....

it's a path laid out for people who DON'T want to think. They just want easy answers to what they don't know and this is a recipe. Some guy who looks like grand dad comes along giving the answer to all their fears like death, pain, purpose... now they don't need to work and learn... just believe... just practice believing... repeat and don't think...

I do believe in spooks, I do, I do, I do, I do, I do believe in spooks!!!!

No hassle, no work, no worry, no mind, no brain, no truth, no reason, no earth, just a big nothing.

[PMcDee]

68. God hates smart people.

[Swede Atlanta]

69. Fortunately Robertson does not speak for all Christians......

I am a Christian and, at least in my faith tradition, we encourage education and self-development.

We believe that while there may be some things that evade human development and understanding, e.g. "why does the universe exist" even if we eventually solve the "what got the big bang going in the first place", man is an intelligent being.

We have no problem reconciling the theory of evolution with the concept of creation. We recognize that it would be a truly dull and uninspiring universe if living creatures did not evolve over time, constantly improving and adapting.

That is not at odds with our belief that life after this one is not earned but rather a gift received as a result of faith and acceptance. We also believe that God has and does perform miracles.

But we also believe that some of those miracles are accomplished through the science and learning of man as man has strived to learn and understand and solve problems.

So Robertson's "blind faith" while attacking educated persons who strive to learn and understand the world around them is not familiar to me. But it is certainly an approach to Christianity (and certainly Islam) that is pushed by many Christian so-called leaders and followed by millions of individuals.

[kenfrequed]

70. Be stupid and god will give you stuff.

Did "Diamond" Pat Robertson quote from the gospel of St Gump or something for this?

But yeah, obviously you should make people more suspicious of intelligence and hold ignorance up as a virtue.

[Downtown Hound]

71. Yep, because after milleniums of us suffering through diseases like Malaria,

polio, cancer, influenza, and starvation, God finally heard our prayers and gave us vaccines, antibiotics, chemotherapy, refrigeration, and fertilizer. Oh no wait, God didn't do any of that. Science did.

Huh, go figure.

[City Lights]

72. Pat Robertson, you are too funny!

[Enrique]

73. African miracles like Pat's Liberian gold mine

praise the Lord!

[Arugula Latte]

74. Ahh, religion.

Promoting ignorance for thousands of years and counting ...

[npk]

83. Don't forget intolerance, bigotry, and homophobia.

Countless wars, starving children and growing world wide poverty all in the name of religion.

[Harry Monroe]

75. Hey, Pat. Here's what Jesus thinks.

[Hayabusa]

76. I almost hope (not really)

that I die the exact same second as him, mainly to laugh my incorporeal ass off as God gives him the biggest of all tell-offs.

[madrchsod]

77. miracles?... my doctors raised me from the dead....

my reasonably educated wife and paramedics that kept my heart beating during a full cardio arrest. once at the hospital those "educated" doctors took over and saved me from death
now i have a metal box that gives my heart a shock if this shit happens again.
maybe scientist`s should`t invented this and i should put my faith in god`s hands. what about the 80% of the people who die from this condition? god did`t bother to help them?

i really did`t bother to ask all those who kept me alive if god helped them.

.

[Politicalboi]

78. We have the Walking Dead here

Besides who wouldn't want the dead to rise again. I guess the have all kinds of "Jesus's" out in Africa. Dying and coming back to life is his specialty.

[sky imager]

80. The horizon of many people is a circle with zero radius which they call their point of view. ~

~ Albert Einstein

[Aristus]

82. It occurred to me that what he is saying is essentially:

"If you don't believe in Him, God doesn't exist."

Strange sentiment coming from that brain-dead old fraud...

[Thumper79]

84. Does he mean smaller miracles or fewer miracles

Miracles are very simply coincidences. There are no miracles. There's no proof of miracles. The entire Bible, in my opinion, was written by just ordinary times of the period. I guess my problem is my post-graduate degree. This site represents what I believe. http://tinyurl.com/j9pj7 There is a specific section on miracles.

[Arkana]

87. No, Pat, see, those people are just smart enough to know

when good things happen that it ISN'T some sort of goddamn "miracle".

[Mad Maddie]

89. Miracle Log

Is there a miracle log I don't know about?

And what is the requirement for being "too educated"? Maybe we should ban higher education. Or better yet, lets just ban all education since it obviously encourages people to become "too educated".

[PolitFreak]

90. In other words:

Stay dumb! (Something I don't think Pat's followers will have a problem accomplishing.)

[Beartracks]

94. OK, I can see where he means...

... that sophisticated, educated people are more likely to question whether an actual miracle is not really something scientifically explainable. But he must also acknowledge the corollary: that simple, uneducated folk are more likely to believe that something actually scientifically explainable is really a miracle.

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[Bernardo de La Paz]

99. No, Robertson means it more in the same sense that he blames US hurricanes on godlessness. nt

[Beartracks]

117. Ah, I meant to say that "purportedly means"....

... in that, if pressed, he could explain away his statement thusly.

But, yeah, I think he really meant it the way you suggest.

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[Bernardo de La Paz]

97. Cognitive Dissonance:

At the same time as they believe that intelligent people get fewer miracles from God, they simultaneously believe they are blessed by God. If they believe Robertson's premise, then logically they should believe that God thinks they are stupid. However, it doesn't matter: Robertson's suckers are stupid.

[FlaGranny]

100. Did God give

humans intelligence and an inquiring mind when he "fashioned" them, Mr. Robertson? If so, God made a serious error. Or maybe God likes to give humans abilities and then forbid their use. A cruel God or a God with bad judgment. Hmmmmm! I don't think I like Mr. Robertson's god.

[noel711]

101. No, Pat my friend, the real miracle is...

that after decades of bull, millions of people still listen to you,

the miracle is, after decades of bull from your mouth,
that you still rake in millions of 'donations,'
and the media still gives you a forum for you to spew your bullshit.

The miracle is that you still get away with it,
while I still await the crowds with pitchforks to deal with you.

the miracle is: that God has a good laugh at your expense. She thinks you are a hilarious buffoon.

[RKP5637]

102. When god created assholes, Pat was first in line. n/t

[bemildred]

103. Yep, too bad God doesn't create less assholes here too. nt

[RKP5637]

108. LOL

[Sunlei]

104. when he passes away Pat Robertson better rise from the dead to back up those words

[tabasco]

105. Pat Robertson would fail a lie detector test

if they asked him if he believed in God.

[Socal31]

109. Interesting.

Once I realized the tooth-fairy was a scam, I stopped getting money under my pillow in exchange for my baby teeth at night. At least that lie my parents told me resulted in money in my pocket, instead of a collection plate being passed around!

[mysuzuki2]

110. I once thought I had experienced a genuine miracle.

I was picking up after my golden retriever Dexie and I thought I saw the face of Jesus in his poop. Upon closer examination it turned out he had eaten my grandsons Picachu figure and part of the little buggers face was peering at me out of the pile. So much for miracles Pat!

[ellenfl]

111. no, the educated just don't see miracles in cheese sandwiches. eom

[KamaAina]

112. Marion (his real name) is a graduate of Yale Law

so I guess he's another godless Ivy League apostate.

Also, that means Gee Dubya Boosh** '68 might actually have competition for the title of Dumbest Yalie Ever.

[CTyankee]

113. I was about to post that. He has his nerve, doesn't he, talking trash about people

with Ivy League degrees...

Nice to see you KamaAina...Saybrook College, right, IIRC?

[KamaAina]

114. SY'85, cum laude

I doubt Marion or Gee Dubya could even spell cum laude.

I suspect he was gently poking fun at his own Ivy League background in that faux folksy, self-deprecating manner he affects (again, much like Gee Dubya).

[CTyankee]

115. good for you. I sure hope the Elis have a better football season this year...

if not, we'll be suffering at The Game in the Bowl yet another year (and the next weekend I always attend T'giving where my ex husband, dressed in outlandish outfits that he gets from the Harvard Coop, tells me once again that I should just "give up" on ever winning the Game again). And I didn't even go to Yale...

[Still Blue in PDX]

120. God must love morons who don't know the difference between "less" and "fewer."

He's made so many of THEM.