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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 08:35 PM Feb 2012

Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning to face court martial

Alleged Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning is to face a court martial, the US Army has confirmed.

Private Manning, 24, an intelligence analyst who served in Iraq, is alleged to have leaked US government cables to the whistle-blowing website.

He could face life in prison if convicted of leaking thousands of documents and "aiding the enemy".

Pte Manning appeared for a pre-trial hearing in December, following which a court martial was recommended.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16883409

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Centrik

(26 posts)
2. Good he deserves this
Fri Feb 3, 2012, 10:48 PM
Feb 2012

And should think long and hard about what he has done .....
Those people killed by the drone strikes are not innocent. 99% of the time they are either part of, or support radical Islam. Don't get me wrong, the 1% that are innocent should not have been killed. The CIA, or whoever was operating those drones at the time should have been more careful. Unfortunately, during any war sometimes civilian casuelties cannot be avoided.

Tanelorn

(359 posts)
5. I have know way of telling what percentage of people are being killed by drone attacks.
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 02:56 AM
Feb 2012

I doubt that the attacks could be that surgical that you only hit the 'bad guys'.
Explosions are disruptive wherever they occur. Villages still have an infrastructure that supports ordinary folk as well as the terrorists.
The only ones safe seem to be ' our guys'.

If we are to believe the number of people being killed in attacks I doubt that they amount 99% 'correct' kills.



PS Sorry I know I have overused the quotes

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
6. Stupid lies, one after another. No other excuse.
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 03:33 AM
Feb 2012

"during any war sometimes civilian casuelties cannot be avoided."
Yes, they can, Just don't kill civilians. It's not HARD. It's just not DONE, because the kinds of people who think wars solve their problems (i.e. give them an endless right to extract others' resources) don't give a flying fuck about civilians.

"99% of the time they are either part of, or support radical Islam."
No comment needed, really. If by "part of" you mean "babies, but in a part of the world that WE don't control", then yes, everyone in Indonesia (the most Muslims in the world) are "part of" radical Islam, and deserve to be napalmed and exploded to death. Sure thing. No problem.

"he deserves this"
He did what his duty, his oaths, and the law required him to. He took clear, unequivocal evidence of covered-up crime and corruption to the American people, where it belongs.

The corrupt people he exposed are still largely in power, largely behaving in exactly the same way they behaved before they were exposed.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
12. "during any war sometimes civilian casuelties cannot be avoided. Yes, they can"
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 08:54 PM
Feb 2012

And your historical example of this happening is what? (ie, a war with no civilian deaths)

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
13. Part of the reason they support Radical Islam is because WE are occupying their country!
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:04 PM
Feb 2012

Put yourself in the position, for a moment, of a poor, Afghan farmer, struggling to support his family on a very unforgiving plot of land. You've lived through a Soviet occupation, and lately, under U.S. occupation one month, the Taliban the next, and back and forth as the power struggle between the two plays itself out. Through it all, you're not really a political person -- really, you just want to feed your family. And hey, of the three occupying groups you've had to live through, at least the Taliban, difficult though they certainly may be, are your own countrymen and not a foreign occupying power. So you do what you have to do to get along with them.

One day, a strike from a drone no one could even see takes out your wife and daughter. Your teenage son survives, angry and embittered, as are you. From that day forward, you will not merely try to get along with the Taliban, you will give them your enthusiastic support. And why shouldn't you? Your son has been radicalized for life. And why shouldn't he be?

I'm sorry, dude, but we are NOT at war with Islam, radical or otherwise -- even that war criminal Bush said that.

Centrik

(26 posts)
7. I admit that I shouldn't of said any percentage
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 03:53 AM
Feb 2012

I'm pretty sure I am completely wrong. I also was unfortunately secluding and stereotyping muslims. Thinking they're all bad ( thanks to bush's lies n what not) which they're not. The day innocents doesn't die in war will be a great day.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
9. I'm betting he will plead. He has no viable defense, and
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 08:59 AM
Feb 2012

his worth as a witness is limited. His lawyer failed to get charges consolidated or thrown. He's going to have a short window where he is useful--if he's smart, he's taking it.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
11. It didn't seem that they were offering a defense
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012

In the Article 32 hearing it seemed to be more about mitigating the sentencing.

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