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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:28 PM Mar 2013

"Red Line Has Been Crossed" In Syria, Rogers Says

Source: CBS NEWS

(CBS News) There's mounting evidence that over the last two years the Assad regime has used "at least a small quantity" of chemical weapons against rebel forces in Syria's raging civil war, House Intelligence Committee chair Mike Rogers, R-Mich., said today on "Face the Nation," adding that the time is now for U.S. intervention.

Amid debate over an alleged chemical weapons attack out of Syria last week, President Obama during a visit to Israel doubled down on his claim that such an attack would be considered a "game changer" for his administration, but qualified that it's important to find out "precisely whether or not this red line was crossed" before making a decision that could lead to an act of war.

"I think that it is abundantly clear that that red line has been crossed," Rogers said. "There is mounting evidence that it is probable that the Assad regime has used at least a small quantity of chemical weapons during the course of this conflict."

Though a senior administration official has said intelligence this week suggests weaponized chemicals were not used in the recent strike, Rogers said the fact that President Bashar al-Assad has ordered scud missile attacks on civilians "in and of itself should prompt action." The "wholesale slaughter" of Syrian rebels and civilians, he said, "is now spilling up to the doorstep of Israel."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57576009/red-line-has-been-crossed-in-syria-rogers-says/

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"Red Line Has Been Crossed" In Syria, Rogers Says (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2013 OP
He is outright lying. Congress is lying us into another war. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #1
To be fair, this is one dolt in the House trying to do the lying. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #17
John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Carl Levin, Diane Feinstein--all are TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #18
The TonkenMassGas? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #2
After Iraq, what exactly can any of us believe? Those war crimes were never prosecuted, and mother earth Mar 2013 #3
FYI, Rogers is a House Rep., not a Senator. longship Mar 2013 #12
Thanks for the correction. nt mother earth Mar 2013 #16
GOP lie machine - has it ever taken a break in the last 30 years? blm Mar 2013 #4
No - that's the thing the GOP does best, but.. RiverNoord Mar 2013 #5
They're lying. Rogers went in with a script. He has no clue as to what the intel says-- TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #7
I'm not arguing the point with you. RiverNoord Mar 2013 #13
We, the USA, dropped tons of Depleted Uranium on Iraq. So what is this bullshit. Gregorian Mar 2013 #6
AND - if I remember correctly, wasn't it the USA distributing chemical weapons to Iraq decades ago? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #15
The people are divorced from our democracy. They're all living their lives, oblivious. Gregorian Mar 2013 #25
This is a partisan political statement not an intelligence assessment. pinto Mar 2013 #8
"Small amount?" as in they swabbed a surface that had some bug spray on it? Thor_MN Mar 2013 #9
This would be more credible if the Obama Administration had gone after the war criminals who had AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #10
Oh SNAP! Yep. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #11
Falling for the same game twice is not acceptable. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #22
I don't believe a damned thing they say! n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #14
Lying warmonger. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #19
Any statement coming from any House committee can't be taken seriously. PSPS Mar 2013 #20
This potlicker, Rogers, could very well be the Junior Senator from Michigan come 2014. eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #21
All all aboard the GOP lie bus Malik Agar Mar 2013 #23
They are pathetic John2 Mar 2013 #24

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
3. After Iraq, what exactly can any of us believe? Those war crimes were never prosecuted, and
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:36 PM
Mar 2013

until they are expect more lies, more crime, treason & a relentless push from the MIC.

Let Sen. Rogers get off his ass and lead the brigade on the front lines.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. FYI, Rogers is a House Rep., not a Senator.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 02:01 PM
Mar 2013

Michigan has no republican Senator.

Just want to make sure non-Michiganders get it right.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

Thanks, friend.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
5. No - that's the thing the GOP does best, but..
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:48 PM
Mar 2013

this situation is different. If we knew, really knew, what was coming in Rwanda, for example, should we have stopped it? The Syrian civil war is a god-awful mess, with the growing possibility of at least a partial end in sight. The thing that worries us most about it is the presence of basically professional mercenaries motivated by extreme religious beliefs among the rebels. They're there and they're some of the best fighters in the conflict. The vast majority of the rebels don't share their beliefs, but they have been desperate and seen the value of their battle prowess.

Chemical weapons use or not, the ugliness of the short-term outcome of this conflict is something we may be able to mitigate substantially. There will be reprisal massacres, and they won't be moderate in scope. We may be able to prevent some of the worst of them, and possibly prevent the country from going the way of (yes I recognize the irony) of Iraq. If it is possible for us to do it, I believe we should.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
7. They're lying. Rogers went in with a script. He has no clue as to what the intel says--
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

and doesn't care.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
6. We, the USA, dropped tons of Depleted Uranium on Iraq. So what is this bullshit.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:50 PM
Mar 2013

I'm not saying it's ok for them. I'm saying...something...what the fuck am I saying?

I'm saying we can make a better world by not being hypocritical.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
15. AND - if I remember correctly, wasn't it the USA distributing chemical weapons to Iraq decades ago?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

.
.
.

as well as selling other weapons to countries the USA would later bomb the shit out of . .

Obama's "hope" thingie was just political hoopla

well,

the USA's whole &quot s)election" system is a farce -

China and Russia are waiting . . . .

All empires fail - USA is overdue . .

All the world has to do to stop the USA's War-machine is have the balls to cut off their oil

The War-machine would grind to a halt within months . . .

Let's grow some BALLS people!

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
25. The people are divorced from our democracy. They're all living their lives, oblivious.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:27 PM
Mar 2013

I know i was. When Reagan took office, I was partying. I knew he was a disaster, but I didn't know what the long term losses could be.

We have the Constitution. We could be something great. But greedy, sick people have derailed it to their advantage, whatever the cost. And those living their lives, even if they want to know the truth, have a hard time finding it.

The FCC is part of the problem.
Election fraud.
Election financing is a disaster.
Subsidizing the military economy is a disaster.

The people are scattered.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
8. This is a partisan political statement not an intelligence assessment.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

And if there is "mounting evidence that it is probable", which sounds pretty vague to me, that should be passed on to the President, Sec. of State, etc. Not run out on a TV talk show. Par for the course from the Republican House.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
9. "Small amount?" as in they swabbed a surface that had some bug spray on it?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

Another presumptive test that fails to be confirmed on page 27 or 2AM? We have been down this road before where Rethugs scream in the media whenever a test swab turns color, but specific tests fail to find a thing. My sister still doubts me when I tell her that no "WMD" were ever found in Iraq. She wants to believe what the right-wing media feeds her.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
10. This would be more credible if the Obama Administration had gone after the war criminals who had
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:55 PM
Mar 2013

lied us into an unnecessary and optional war.

Lying to us from the highest governmental levels is now acceptable.

Getting us into unnecessary wars is now acceptable.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Falling for the same game twice is not acceptable.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 04:17 PM
Mar 2013

Pls. teach your children and grandchildren how our government lied us into Viet Nam and Iraq and Afghanistan and ....and.....





PSPS

(13,608 posts)
20. Any statement coming from any House committee can't be taken seriously.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 04:09 PM
Mar 2013

Example: This guy is, apparently, the "House Intelligence Committee chair." Yes, the same committee that includes such "luminaries" as Peter King and Michele Bachmann. And we are supposed to pay attention to what emanates from this Romper Room?

Plus. this CBS report's writing is in the same childish league, what with its use of the phrase "doubled down" as a verb. Gee, how "hip" and "trendy" is that, right? Where's the "like" button?



 

Malik Agar

(102 posts)
23. All all aboard the GOP lie bus
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:57 PM
Mar 2013

I guarantee that quite a few dems will shamefully jump on the bandwagon too. Just like Iraq.

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