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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:36 PM Mar 2013

Syria: 42 killed in Damascus mosque bombing

Source: AP

BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian state TV says 42 people have been killed and 84 wounded in a suicide bomb attack inside a mosque in Damascus that also killed a top Sunni Muslim preacher and longtime supporter of President Bashar Assad.

Thursday's death of Sheik Mohammad Said Ramadan al-Buti removes one of the few remaining pillars of support of the Alawite leader among the majority sect that has risen up against him.

Syrian TV says among those killed were al-Buti's grandson. It did not elaborate.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/syria-hands-over-seized-lebanese-fighter-beirut

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Syria: 42 killed in Damascus mosque bombing (Original Post) Bosonic Mar 2013 OP
This war will go on for another thousand years. :( leveymg Mar 2013 #1
Idiot let himself be photographed? aquart Mar 2013 #28
And the US is supporting this. The blowback will carry a heavy price. David__77 Mar 2013 #2
What are you saying US policy should be with respect to Syria? oberliner Mar 2013 #4
MYOB. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #5
I was just asking oberliner Mar 2013 #6
Sorry, not directed at you. It was my policy prescription: Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #8
Unfortunately, nobody involved really believes the US is free of responsibilty. leveymg Mar 2013 #10
Doubtless. Too bad Fox News made Benghazi radioactive. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #14
Got it now oberliner Mar 2013 #19
A few components. David__77 Mar 2013 #12
Okey dokey then. aquart Mar 2013 #26
I said the US should respect the borders. David__77 Mar 2013 #34
And go WHERE? aquart Mar 2013 #29
And you propose what, that is not so "arrogant?" David__77 Mar 2013 #35
Poor people, poor Syria. Beacool Mar 2013 #3
Re: report suggests the bombing was a 'success' mallard Mar 2013 #7
I can't believe they would target a place of worship. Disgusting. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #9
Well look at the context a bit ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #11
Are you saying that this cleric was like a Nazi, and those that killed him were like anti-Nazis? David__77 Mar 2013 #13
If he was a supporter of Assad's fascist regime, yes he was like a Nazi ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #17
That's quite an assertion. David__77 Mar 2013 #20
But what if there were Qurans in there? You can't desecrate a Quran. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #15
That doesn't offend me ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #16
Apparently that only applies to Christians Throd Mar 2013 #21
You support mass-murdering suicide bombers targeting civilians? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #22
Uh, no. If you go back to my original post, I was denouncing a terror attack on a place of worship. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #24
That wasn't aimed at you, but at the Bloody Butterfly. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #36
Check your aim before you shoot. Always know what's behind your target. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #37
Amazing how far some people will go to defend mass murder of Muslims on DU Scootaloo Mar 2013 #30
I think Assad's military has killed many more Muslims than the opposition has. pampango Mar 2013 #32
Nope, but there's ButterflyBlood justifying and supporting an act of terrorism. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #33
So you've paid no attention to regional events for decades? aquart Mar 2013 #27
Of course not. What's really weird is that it is almost always Muslims who attack mosques. Pterodactyl Apr 2013 #38
Nah. No one can disrespect a faith like one of its own. aquart Apr 2013 #39
Well...it's hard to see how we can support this sort of thing. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #18
Past-Present-Future Malik Agar Mar 2013 #23
Good to know! Scootaloo Mar 2013 #31
UN Condemns Syria Mosque Attack cqo_000 Mar 2013 #25

David__77

(23,511 posts)
2. And the US is supporting this. The blowback will carry a heavy price.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 08:57 PM
Mar 2013

Obama should stand against these children of Osama, and change course now.

The US should not instigate international terrorism.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. Sorry, not directed at you. It was my policy prescription:
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:22 PM
Mar 2013

Mind your own business. Stay out of that shitstorm.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. Unfortunately, nobody involved really believes the US is free of responsibilty.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:07 AM
Mar 2013

We are already covered in blood and debris. Benghazi was just a warning gale of the whirlwind to come.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
14. Doubtless. Too bad Fox News made Benghazi radioactive.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:44 AM
Mar 2013

There are some serious unanswered questions there. Like just what was that CIA station up to?

David__77

(23,511 posts)
12. A few components.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:34 AM
Mar 2013

First, ceasing financial, logistic, and military aid to any Syrian political party or forces - abandon the strategy of enforcing "regime change."

Respect the territorial integrity, national borders and sovereignty of the country, including by discouraging US allies from interfering in Syria's internal affairs - I am thinking of Turkey most importantly.

It is too late to, at this point, pick back up with the progress Obama had made in restoring normal diplomatic relations with Syria early in his first term. It will take time to get back to that point, in the unlikely case that "regime change" fails.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
26. Okey dokey then.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:46 AM
Mar 2013

LOL! Yeah, always smart to ignore the war.

Do you suggest we also ignore the million refugees and the potential to destabilize other MidEast countries.

BTW, how does one "respect borders" with thousands disrespecting them every day?

I love couch cushion policy.

David__77

(23,511 posts)
34. I said the US should respect the borders.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:38 AM
Mar 2013

And I did not say I think that the US should consider it to be its duty to ensure that others also do so under all circumstances. I'm not sure how anyone on this forum is advocating anything other than "couch cushion policy." The difference is that one costs the US lives and treasure, and the other may not.

Fanning the flames of international terror, indeed starting wars, is not a game.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
29. And go WHERE?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:58 AM
Mar 2013

My god, the internationally illiterate crap I am reading here today sounds like a bunch of first grade hand made greeting cards.

And the fucking sanctimonious ARROGANCE is gross.

mallard

(569 posts)
7. Re: report suggests the bombing was a 'success'
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 10:33 PM
Mar 2013

Article:

"Thursday's death of Sheik Mohammad Said Ramadan al-Buti removes one of the few remaining pillars of support of the Alawite leader ..."

Guess they don't count on sympathy for murder victims or resolution through the justice system. It's Assad's bad, no matter.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
11. Well look at the context a bit
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 12:14 AM
Mar 2013

Let's imagine you had a church heavily linked to clerical fascists in some Nazi-occupied country that was attacked by the local resistance while it had a high ranking Nazi/collaborationist fascist speaking there?

I'm not going to argue any type of building should be off limits in a war like that, though of course the killing of 41 other people in this case is a perfectly valid criticism.

David__77

(23,511 posts)
13. Are you saying that this cleric was like a Nazi, and those that killed him were like anti-Nazis?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:36 AM
Mar 2013

Really? I think it is quite the opposite. In fact, the "clerical fascists" are those who are beating and killing people for violating "sharia" in Syria. It isn't the government! It's the barbaric insurgents that the US media is cheerleading.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
17. If he was a supporter of Assad's fascist regime, yes he was like a Nazi
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:39 AM
Mar 2013

Appropriate true considering this is the same regime that once harbored former Nazis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Brunner

You are right that many of the anti-government people are also religious extremists, which is a concern, but hardly every single one of them is. The only real thing the insurgents all have in common is they want Assad gone. People who want Assad gone are an incredibly diverse group.

David__77

(23,511 posts)
20. That's quite an assertion.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:36 PM
Mar 2013

Do you think there is a single Arab state that would not have harbored Nazis? It wasn't just Syria. And as we can readily see by reviewing Arab media, the Nazis are seen as not so bad because at least they were anti-Semites.

Another point is that the Syrian people who want Assad to stay are also a very diverse group, and are certainly not mostly Baathists.

I'm an atheist. I happen to know that most Syrian atheists are "Alawites." They are followers of humanist ideology. The Alawites are the intellectual and cultural leading force of Syria, just as European Jewry in that continent was before Hitler unfolded his genocide. The Sunni supremacists want to enforce a new dark age and wipe out the Alawites, the seed of progress in that country.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
21. Apparently that only applies to Christians
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:02 PM
Mar 2013

If a Christian frowns in the direction of a Koran, the "Arab street" goes apeshit and starts to burn things. Blowing up a mosque (and presumably a bunch of Korans) is OK if it is a mosque that worships Allah the wrong way.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
32. I think Assad's military has killed many more Muslims than the opposition has.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:18 AM
Mar 2013

It is true that they have not killed them in mosques if that makes it any better. I trust none of us are defending them either.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Nope, but there's ButterflyBlood justifying and supporting an act of terrorism.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 07:30 AM
Mar 2013

By the argument that the one hundred and twenty-six human beings killed or injured in the blast "deserved it," via some very contorted and tortured Godwinning.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
27. So you've paid no attention to regional events for decades?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 12:52 AM
Mar 2013

'Mosque bombing Middle East' got 15,000,000 hits. Think it was all the same mosque?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
18. Well...it's hard to see how we can support this sort of thing.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:50 AM
Mar 2013

Are the "moderate" rebel groups (the ones that John McCain wants us to "vet" and arm) going to condemn this sort of violence?

 

Malik Agar

(102 posts)
23. Past-Present-Future
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 03:47 PM
Mar 2013

The Middle East has been full of violence for thousands of years and it doesn't look like its going to change...

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
31. Good to know!
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 06:47 AM
Mar 2013

Here I thought this all started two years ago! I'm soooo fucking glad someone on the internet tells me I'm off by nine hundred and nintey-eight years!

cqo_000

(313 posts)
25. UN Condemns Syria Mosque Attack
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013

The U.N. Security Council put aside its deep divisions and issued a rare statement Friday condemning "in the strongest terms" the terrorist attack on a mosque in Damascus that killed more than 40 Syrians, including a senior Muslim cleric.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also condemned the suicide bombing that killed Sheik Mohammad Said Ramadan al-Buti, a top Sunni preacher, as he was giving a sermon Thursday "in the strongest terms" and called for the perpetrators to be brought to justice.

The Security Council statement called terrorism a serious threat to international peace and security and said any terrorist acts "are criminal and unjustifiable, regardless of their motivation." It reiterated the council's determination to combat all forms of terrorism.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/rare-unity-condemns-syria-mosque-attack-18790499

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