Graham calls for American boots on the ground in Syria
Source: Foreign Policy
Posted By Josh Rogin Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 2:14 PM
In the face of new reports alleging chemical weapons use in Syria, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called Tuesday for the United States to put American troops inside Syria to secure the WMD sites there.
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Graham told The Cable in an interview Tuesday that whether or not the attack can be confirmed as the first use of chemical weapons in the 24-month Syrian civil war, the United States must devise and implement a plan to secure Syrian chemical weapons sites and deploy U.S. troops to do it if necessary.
"My biggest fear beyond an Iranian nuclear weapons capability is the chemical weapons in Syria falling in the hands of extremists and Americans need to lead on this issue. We need to come up with a plan to secure these weapons sites, either in conjunction with our partners [or] if nothing else by ourselves," Graham said.
Asked if he would support sending U.S. troops inside Syria for the mission, Graham said yes.
"Absolutely, you've got to get on the ground. There is no substitute for securing these weapons," he said. "I don't care what it takes. We need partners in the region. But I'm here to say, if the choice is to send in troops to secure the weapons sites versus allowing chemical weapons to get in the hands of some of the most violent people in the world, I vote to cut this off before it becomes a problem."
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Read more: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/03/19/graham_calls_for_american_boots_on_the_ground_in_syria?wp_login_redirect=0
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)We are going to put troops in the middle of a civil war--a war with poorly understood factions and CHEMICAL WEAPONS?? Thank God for the administration we have--they'd better not even entertain this bullshit for a second.
John2
(2,730 posts)Troops in the middle of a Civil War between the Syrian Army, Sunni population, PLO,HAMAS,Hezebulla,Sunni Lebanese population,Iraqi Sunni population,Sh ia populations in both Iran and Iraq, Alqaeda elements in North Africa and lets not forget the Muslim Brotherhood of course in Egypt. All to to secure the chemical stock pile of Assad. Now we know Iran's Revolutionary guard unit has been secretly operating with the Syrian military and Iran's military also has a large supply of these weapons in case of an attack by the U.S. and Israel. Why don't we just invite the Taliban and North Koreans to the Party while you are at it Lindsey. They have been wanting easier access to U.S. Troops and Israel all along. They will have them all in one area now for their Jihad. He sure has a lot of confidence in our Arab Allies. Lets just hope it is not like Custer's last stand.
Roy Rolling
(6,921 posts)Boots on the ground in the middle of a Civil War. I will change my mind if the first "boots on the ground" are those of Lindsay Graham and his family, willing to die for his ideology.
Oops...didn't see the post below.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)That's the way the warhawks love their candidates.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)But I planned to make it a question. Is he fucking insane?
Or does he have a financial interest in all those unused hazmat suits we had made up for the Iraq war?
elleng
(131,006 posts)Let's deploy Senator Lindsey Graham to Syria!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Naturally, his sponsors would love a war...
atreides1
(16,082 posts)He is a colonel in the USAF reserve...he can be ordered to active duty, for however long it takes! Of course that will make things very difficult for him to run for re-election, unless he resigns!
Ya beat me to it! Send this sabre-rattling dolt in there as the advance wave. The added bonus would be the upshoot of the IQ average in the senate while he's away.
aquart
(69,014 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)reveals his own face.
If you want war Lindsey, then walk the walk.
mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Apparently that's not his program:
from Wikipedia:
In 1998, according to the Congressional daily newspaper The Hill, Graham was describing himself on his website as an Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm veteran. In reality, he never left South Carolina. Graham responded "I have not told anybody I'm a combatant," he said. "I'm not a war hero, and never said I was. I never intended to lie.
Clearly though, he likes to talk the talk sometimes.
AAO
(3,300 posts)He's just a liar like the rest of the sociopathic politicians.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)No, money. We're broke. Gotta cut SS and Medicare. Can't raise taxes on the rich. Guess the rich will just have to buy gas masks and hazmat suits.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)(Many different ones)
treestar
(82,383 posts)they didn't like
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)this time Syria would be much more of a proxy war. Christ almighty.
pampango
(24,692 posts)on the ground or even planes in the air.
After the hearing, Levin directly endorsed the idea of using the Patriot missile batteries in Turkey to establish a no-fly zone inside Syria in an interview with The Cable. "I believe there should be the next ratcheting up of military effort and that would include going after some of Syria's air defenses," Levin said.
Regarding the establishment of a no-fly zone inside Syria, Levin said that would help both protect innocent civilians and speed the end of the conflict.
"You could protect that kind of a zone with these Patriot missiles, leaving the missiles in Turkey but having the zone inside the Syrian border," he said. "It is a way without putting boots on the ground and in a way that would be fairly cautious, that would put additional pressure on Assad and also create a zone where Syrian people who are looking for protection and safety could come without crossing the border and becoming refugees."
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/03/19/top_democrat_endorses_syria_no_fly_zone
Levin's idea seems to be different from the extensive, wide-ranging NFZ that NATO did in Libya. This would be limited to a strip of land in northern Syria enforced by missiles based in Syria.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)retaliation into Turkey or elsewhere? Then it's a war.
aquart
(69,014 posts)It's mean.
John2
(2,730 posts)such animal as innocent civilians in a Civil War. It needs to be defined what it is. Who are the Alawites trying to overthrow Assad? He just wants to tilt the conflict to one side or the other. If the Alawites were included in trying to overthrow Assad, he would not be in power. It is a War between the Alawites, Sunnis, and Kurds.
pampango
(24,692 posts)So all Syrians lose their 'innocence' because the belong to one group or another? Does that then mean that the killing of civilians either intentionally or as 'collateral damage' is acceptable in civil wars because they are not 'innocent'?
"Who are the Alawites trying to overthrow Assad? He just wants to tilt the conflict to one side or the other."
Alawites are 10-12% of Syria's population. Your statement could be interpreted as condoning the use of Syria's military to maintain their undemocratic hold ("tilt the conflict to one side" over the Syrian population. Whites represented about 20% of South Africa's population in apartheid days. I do not think most liberals condoned the white government's use of the military and police to maintain their undemocratic (only whites could vote after all) hold over South Africa's population.
Why do we make excuses for Assad and Syria's Alawites that we would not have made for South Africa's whites?
John2
(2,730 posts)to go to War in Iraq? Does anybody see a trend here? A no fly zone means that you have entered the War militarily. The War must not be going the way our bought and payed for Congress wants? Committing our forces into this War in any way has nothing to do with the defense of this country.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)John2
(2,730 posts)with what happens in this country than something which only benefits the Top percent in our country and their Empire. It is a Civil War and not just bought on by one man. I could care less which side wins because both are led by their religious ideology. The only thing our Congress is interested in is power and money. The Alawites have been in control of Syria for Decades, ever since they overthrew the Sunnis with the help of the French giving them the upper hand. The French was just interested in the same thing, power and resources. I'm glad some of these Old Geezards are retiring in Congress. A lot more of them need to be put in the pasture. And the only reason Turkey probably gets attack, is because they didn't mind their own business. This is a country that invaded Cyprus and have problems within their own borders. I don't feel it is our obligation to protect them at all.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)It makes a difference.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)That shit pads his wallet. It would be WIERD if he said 'don't go into Syria.'
Brigid
(17,621 posts)According to the Repugs, we're broke because Obama is a profligate spender.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Just train up some "freedom fighters," let France go ahead and arm them, and sit back.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Life is short. Memory is shorter.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)It was all those Iraqis/Libyans/Iranians/Syrians who were behind 9/11 and
*that* justifies *everything*!
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)You lead the way!
Kingofalldems
(38,461 posts)Joey Liberal
(5,526 posts)It's hard to keep up with his non-stop complaints, accusations and theatrics.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Freakin' loser.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)YOU, Lindsey guy, are the FIRST to be on the ground there!
And NOT the WMD thing again!?!?!?
Didn't you assholes learn?
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Just not his boots.
Gutless wonder.
Aristus
(66,409 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)That means that you can put *your* two boots on the ground,
Chickenhawk piece of REMF shit.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... or anything that resembles it. He needs to gather up a gang of his fellow chickenhawks and head on over there. Easy-peasy..land in Israel and they'll run you right over there....
bubbayugga
(222 posts)and then let spec ops teams do a detalied battle damage assessment on the gound and then get them them the fuck out of their in time for dinner?