Report: Carnival Dream in St. Maarten has problems
Source: Orlando Sentinel
Passengers aboard a Carnival cruise line ship docked in St. Maarten in the eastern Caribbean have contacted CNN reporting various power and plumbing problems, the cable network is reporting.
According to CNN, several passengers have reported power outages and overflowing toilets aboard the Carnival Dream which was supposed to leave the Phillipsburg, St. Maarten port early Wednesday evening.
One passenger said a public announcement address indicated that work on the ship's generators was taking place, CNN reported.
Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sfl-cnn-carnival-dream-20130314,0,2684492.story
Another Shitty situation.
KaryninMiami
(3,073 posts)Not good if these reports are true and so much is going wrong already. Ugh.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I told you we should have gone to Disney World.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)has put me off too.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)monstrosities, packing people in like sardines, etc.
Not my idea of a vacation.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)I've never understood why anyone would want to climb on a ship and cruise with thousands of other people. Well, yeah I do. It's all about money.
About 10 years ago I had the pleasure of cruising the Caribbean on the Mandalay, which was part of the now-defunct Windjammer Barefoot Cruise lines. That was one of the best vacations I've ever had. While Barefoot doesn't exist anymore, there are a large number of other smaller cruise lines (like Star Clipper) that offer the same kind of quality and experience. Best of all, depending on the line and ship, you often only have to deal with a few dozen, or maybe a few hundred, other people. I believe the Mandalay is still sailing for another company now, and it topped out at less than 100 passengers.
Of course, you'll pay for it. A 7 day Caribbean booking on a megacruiser will cost you about $500 per person for an ocean view room. The same booking on one of the smaller lines will cost about three times as much. People sail these megaships for the same reason people shop at Walmart. People don't shop at Walmart when they want to buy high quality items...they shop at Walmart because it's cheap and "good enough". People don't sail the mega cruise lines when they want a high quality cruise. It's a vacation for people who are looking for a cruising experience that's "cheap and good enough".
When it comes to cruising, you really do get what you pay for.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Americans feel the need to "outdo" each other and go to Disney (a nightmare) and other places that suck the last penny out of your wallet?
Let's teach our kids to enjoy themselves without machines, crowds, etc.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)There are better ways to have a vacation than spending tons of money to have "fun."
Crowded places like Disney aren't much fun, IMO. Instead, go see the Grand Canyon, or find places closer to home to explore. Interesting things are everywhere, and you control the schedule instead of some corporation planning your activities for you.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . . but once you think about it, there are very few good rides, there are long-ass lines for everything, just about every aspect of Disney costs twice to three times as much as nearby Cedar Point (and CP has far better rides), the flight and hotel would be more than I could reasonably afford and I just never took him because of that.
His HS Marching Band went to Florida to play a bowl game and they went to Disney then. He said "I liked Universal better."
paleotn
(17,920 posts)we've always avoided crowds and fake, plastic places whenever possible. For us it's always been actual historical places, natural wonders, etc. As for cruise ships, I think I'll just stick with my little jon boat.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)We did a cruise to AK a few yrs ago, it was great!
Mz Pip
(27,449 posts)We did it twice, two different cruise lines and different ports. I thought it was good way to see the spectacular Alaska scenery.
Had a terrific time both times. No problems. The food was great and there was a wide variety of shipboard activities or you could just find a quiet place and read.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)The scenery is incredible. I would go again in a heartbeat.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)I guess that's what the victims asked, too.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)"Ghost Ship" from 2002.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288477/
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Berlin Expat
(950 posts)point-of-view, "Ghost Ship" was a very well-made film; some really solid art direction and production design.
The script could've used some polishing. Perhaps not a bad film candidate for a remake, this time with a better script with less clichés.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)movie.
Ghost Ship is one the the five movies we discussed simply redoing in our own version, after we finish this current project.
Berlin Expat
(950 posts)be a good film to remake. The casting in the original was good as well.
In the original spec script, "Chimera", the film was a psychological thriller, but apparently the producers decided to change it into a slasher film instead.
Here's a link to the original first-draft screenplay: http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/ghost_ship.html
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Berlin Expat
(950 posts)would make a hell of a good film. There's only a few minor changes I would make.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)And great beaches. Shit happens but as they say, don't worry be happy.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)or Carnival Sewage.
What's the deal? Carnival must be paying its CEO so much they've had to cut back on maintenance. They probably figured no one would ever notice.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)....Need to hit quarterly or annual earnings guidance? Slash maintenance spend and hope for the best. Customers will have no idea, until something goes wrong.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)Assuming that they are actually letting people off the ship. I would never want to cruise on one of those giganto-monster ships...too many people.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)davsand
(13,421 posts)My first response was, Gee, wouldn't THAT be fun... Where do I sign up?
Laura
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Probably headed for bankruptcy and rightly so.
catbyte
(34,393 posts)Just the thought of being trapped on a boat with all those strangers--even if the plumbing works and the the food's not poisoned--send chills up my spine. Yuck!
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)2 day cruise, it was nice but would not want anything longer then that.
and now, there is no way I would get on one for anything.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Heard, both anecdotal and universal, far more bad stories than good about cruises. Doesn't sound like my kind of thing anyway. I kind of like to eat when I want without having to wait for an hour.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Their pants are being sued off, for one thing, but they probably have fewer ships active due to fewer bookings because of all the safety issues.
I damn sure wouldn't get on one of them with my family or friends.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)They sell their services at low cost in high volume to people who wouldn't pay the price of the services of a higher tier operation.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... but what about the lawsuits? It looks to me like it would be cheaper to overhaul their ships and be absolutely sure they are safe to fend off all the lawsuits. Maybe the repairs are more expensive than the lawsuits?
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)They've insulated themselves from financial liability using disclaimers, remedy limitations and exclusions, and have no financial incentive to make corrections to these issues, so they happen again and again.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)That sucks.
pinboy3niner
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ReRe
(10,597 posts)If not, and it is your own brand of sarcasm, why not state the fact that it is? If it is your own sarcasm, you need to apply at the Onion.
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ReRe
(10,597 posts)You need to look into Onion. All you would have to do is author them and e-mail them in.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)The Stranger
(11,297 posts)They continue to put people on these ships and make money despite their horrors because there is no financial incentive for them to correct the problems. They have used a smorgasbord of legal disclaimers, indemnities and remedy limitations in their ticketing to prevent anyone from suing them for damages.
Not to mention the horrid overconsumption, waste, and the environmental damage that these diesel burning behemoths leave in their wake. There has to be a more intelligent (not to mention enjoyable) way to vacation.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)KaryninMiami
(3,073 posts)See update below. As someone who works with the cruise industry, I'd be remiss if I didn't at least throw in a few points here.
First, a reminder. consider the number of passengers who are sailing at this minute- in all corners of the world and on ships of all sizes. Remember also that these incidents are VERY rare and passengers are almost never in danger. Cruising, which understandingly may not be everyone's cup of tea, are for millions of passengers, a wonderful and exciting (and often times cost effective) way to see the world. Today's ships are often elegant and beautifully designed- some border on amazing (have you seen the Allure of the Seas- WOW), cabins are very comfortable, cruise fare includes entertainment and activities, a chance to sample some amazing restaurants and are more like floating resorts with something to do for just about everyone. And yes- they are run by machines and computers - both of which can occasionally, malfunction but passengers, thanks to the strict safety requirements, are rarely if ever, in danger. There are also strict . regulations around cleanliness (especially for any ship that enters the US) and environmental issues as well. The repeat factor is extremely high by the way - most cruiser return again and again and ships sail full so they must be doing something right. And, ships, like hotels, come in all different sizes and shapes- some are very large and some are very small - some offer a tremendously cost effective vacation option for families, others, well- appeal to the 1%, frankly. But I do hope that people will not look at these rare incidents and use them to deter them from experiencing a cruise- something that I truly believe is a terrific vacation option. Maybe not for every year and not for everyone but worth consideration.
We have flight delays and mechanical problems pretty often (those who fly often can attest to this) but we still take planes. Trains have delays and occasional accidents but we still take trains. Our cars break down but we still drive. Keep it in perspective please and by all means- try a cruise- you may like it!
Update from Cruise Week Special Edition 3/14/13- Update On Carnival Dream
The Carnival Dream is stuck at port in St. Maarten with a "technical problem," though the ship has power. Passengers have contacted media outlets to report in painstaking detail issues with power outages and overflowing toilets last night and complaints about not being allowed to leave the ship, which was scheduled to depart yesterday at 5 pm. Cruise stocks are all down this morning given the developing story.
Here's excerpts from CCL's latest statement on the ship: "The ship is at dock in St. Maarten. All guests are safe and comfortable. There were periodic interruptions to elevators and restroom services for a few hours last night. However, all hotel systems are functioning normally and have been functional since approximately 12:30 am.
While personnel continue to work on the technical issue we are making arrangements to fly all guests home via private charter flights and scheduled flights from St. Maarten. Guests on the current voyage will receive a refund equivalent to three days of the voyage and 50 percent off a future cruise.
We are also cancelling the ship's next voyage which is scheduled to depart on Saturday, March 16. Guests scheduled to sail on this cruise will receive a full refund and 25 percent off a future seven-day cruise. Guests who re-book will have their current rate protected on the future sailing. Additionally, any non-refundable transportation related expenses will be reimbursed."
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Blue Owl
(50,393 posts)n/t