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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:03 PM Mar 2013

Young Israel Launches ‘Call For Clemency Campaign’ For Pollard In Advance Of Obama’s Israel Trip

Source: Yeshiva World News

With President Obama set to make his first visit to Israel as President on March 20th amidst a groundswell of support for Jonathan Pollard’s release, now is the time to call the White House and urge the President to commute Pollard’s sentence to time served. Next month, on April 8, 2013, Jonathan Pollard will have spent 10,000 long and lonely days in prison.

Although the “Call for Clemency Campaign” is an initiative of the National Council of Young Israel, it is supported by Jews throughout the United States, as evidenced by the growing calls for President Obama to commute Pollard’s prison sentence. There has been a flurry of activity in recent weeks relative to the plight of Jonathan Pollard, as Prime Minister Netanyahu, President Peres, the leaders of every major political party in the Knesset, and U.S. government officials, legal professionals, and religious groups have all called for Pollard’s release, as has the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

As part of the “Call for Clemency Campaign,” people across the United States are encouraged to call President Obama and request the release of Jonathan Pollard and to tell the White House that 28 years in prison is more than enough. People can contact the White House between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM EST at 202-456-1414.

Read more: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/160458/Young-Israel-Launches-Call-For-Clemency-Campaign-For-Pollard-In-Advance-Of-Obamas-Israel-Trip.html

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Young Israel Launches ‘Call For Clemency Campaign’ For Pollard In Advance Of Obama’s Israel Trip (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2013 OP
Screw him /nt jberryhill Mar 2013 #1
Is Lieberman there as well? Iliyah Mar 2013 #2
Lieberman? Ours or theirs... ;) eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #3
What a comparison TomClash Mar 2013 #21
A bunch of lies The Second Stone Mar 2013 #4
So long as the secrets he gave did not help Israel develop a atomic bomb AverageMe Mar 2013 #5
"Oh kind sirs, please release the spy we paid to steal your intel!" R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #6
He's served enough time and is no longer a threat. I support clemency, send him to Israel. Sunlei Mar 2013 #7
In a 'body bag perhaps'... He shows up there alive they will declare a national holiday. eom Purveyor Mar 2013 #8
The purpose of keeping him The Wizard Mar 2013 #9
...because he was sentenced to it. jberryhill Mar 2013 #11
He plead guilty to committing espionage against the US & has not completed his sentence. baldguy Mar 2013 #16
Punishment TomClash Mar 2013 #20
He's a bargaining chip customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #29
Why would our friend spy on us? Stewland Mar 2013 #10
Israel is only friends with some of America. baldguy Mar 2013 #15
For the same reason they lied about bombing and strafing the USS Liberty in 1967 Submariner Mar 2013 #18
Putting pressure upon our elected officials has worked for them Stewland Mar 2013 #24
bwahahaha. You don't think the U.S. has and does spy on its friends? cali Mar 2013 #32
When he's room temperature, let him go. Nika Mar 2013 #12
The National Council of Young Israel...? Grins Mar 2013 #13
Yes, and many came here under a resettlement program that few Americans even know about. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #23
The meaning of assimilation in this context is different Mosby Mar 2013 #33
Why the hell should Pollard be granted clemency? baldguy Mar 2013 #14
Only the politically spineless would be so craven as to release Pollard. Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #17
NEVER TomClash Mar 2013 #19
Are we going to release Siegelman? Why should Pollard be released? nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #22
There's very contrasting attitudes between spies depending on who they are... Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #25
We should release Pollard to Israel.. sendero Mar 2013 #26
Rot bravenak Mar 2013 #27
No way, not ever. If he was so idealistic then he understands and on conscience.... marble falls Mar 2013 #28
My one condition for pardoning Jonathan Pollard. no_hypocrisy Mar 2013 #30
Fat chance MrScorpio Mar 2013 #31
A comparison with Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen question everything Mar 2013 #34
Maybe 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #35
No - he'll die in prison which leftynyc Mar 2013 #36
 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
4. A bunch of lies
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:24 PM
Mar 2013

I know a lot of Jews who don't think this traitor should ever be a free man again.

Son of a bitch betrayed his country for money.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. "Oh kind sirs, please release the spy we paid to steal your intel!"
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:37 PM
Mar 2013

"Hasn't he suffered enough?"



No.

Next question?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
29. He's a bargaining chip
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:17 AM
Mar 2013

If we ever need one to get Israel to do something they really don't want to do someday, but would do if we added him to the deal. Otherwise, we'd have executed him by now.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
10. Why would our friend spy on us?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:04 PM
Mar 2013

It amazes me that Israel would spy on America as we give them everything they ask for. This does not speak well of our relationship with the Zionist nation. Does Israel have any one that they trust?

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
18. For the same reason they lied about bombing and strafing the USS Liberty in 1967
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:26 AM
Mar 2013

and murdered 34 U.S. Navy sailors. Political and military advantage.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
24. Putting pressure upon our elected officials has worked for them
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 05:11 AM
Mar 2013

I must say that the AIPAC has been very successful in getting their agenda across and yet it saddens me that Zionism is so very similar to Fascism. And yet many politicians do whatever is asked of them. So many are complicit in aiding and abetting the killing machines with American tax monies and weapons that rain down upon Palestine. Zionists and their sympathizers can't wait to bomb Iran and the history of Jewry in Iran has been peaceful for the most part. If it were not for the billions sent from our treasury Israel would have to make nice with her neighbors. The cycle of bloodshed continues and will continue until we stop supporting them. The MIC wont let that happen as much money is made surrounding war and is implements. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of allowing this abuse to continue and bear responsibility also. One day the chickens will come home to roost ,question is will anyone learn anything from this cycle of bloodshed?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. bwahahaha. You don't think the U.S. has and does spy on its friends?
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:29 PM
Mar 2013

Not to mention other countries doing it as well. Hardly novel.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
13. The National Council of Young Israel...?
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:32 PM
Mar 2013

Really?

"NCYI was founded in 1912 by rabbis Israel Friedlander and Mordecai Kaplan to COMBAT THE WAVE OF ASSIMILATION by Jews into secular American society." - Wikipedia

They are against assimilation into American society? And we should give a shit about these guys why...?

Screw Pollard. A reported story about Pollard was that the information he stole was delivered to Israel who traded that information in exchange for the Soviets relaxing emigration requirements on Russian Jews so they could go to Israel. (With the unforseen by-product that once they got to Israel they would apply for visas to go to the United States.)

Mosby

(16,347 posts)
33. The meaning of assimilation in this context is different
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:05 PM
Mar 2013

When Jews talk about assimilation they are talking about Jewish families moving away from Judaism, in particular dropping any visible signs of religiosity, and adopting a fully secular lifestyle.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
17. Only the politically spineless would be so craven as to release Pollard.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:08 AM
Mar 2013

Every president since Reagan has been privy to the actual material Pollard stole and they have all said "Fuck off" to Israeli requests.

I think Joe Biden put it best (starting at 2:50):



PB

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
25. There's very contrasting attitudes between spies depending on who they are...
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 05:53 AM
Mar 2013

Pollard spied on the US at the behest of Israel and is feted by Israel as being some sort of hero...

That's in complete contrast to the Australian/Israeli citizen who was a Mossad agent and was thrown in prison in Israel with a total gag order on him. No-one knows what he did to warrant indefinate detention in solitary confinement in a high security prison, but the speculation is that he was possibly going to give information to a foreign government about misuse of passports by Israel. He'll never be able to set the record straight, as he somehow managed to hang himself while in solitary confinement and being monitored 24/7.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/12/israel-prisoner-x-australian-mossad-agent

Pollard should rot in jail as far as I'm concerned...

sendero

(28,552 posts)
26. We should release Pollard to Israel..
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:04 AM
Mar 2013

.. when he is a corpse.

Oh and BTW, if Israel is our "friend" who needs enemies.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
27. Rot
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:10 AM
Mar 2013

As an American citizen i call for him to remain in prison until his sentence is complete. He knew what to expect if caught,and he took that risk. Let a known,convicted spy out of prison? Yeah,right. I have never heard a good reason from anyone, to do that.

marble falls

(57,180 posts)
28. No way, not ever. If he was so idealistic then he understands and on conscience....
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:30 AM
Mar 2013

would want to stay inside or understands why he gets to stay inside. No release for Pollard than there would be a release for the Walkers or Ames or Wilson. They sold out their positions of trust for money. They broke voluntary oaths.

no_hypocrisy

(46,178 posts)
30. My one condition for pardoning Jonathan Pollard.
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 07:48 AM
Mar 2013

Full pardon AND clemency for Don Siegelman simultaneous with Pollard's pardon. Immediately.

question everything

(47,530 posts)
34. A comparison with Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:26 PM
Mar 2013

Both spied for the Soviet Union, actions that resulted in killing of CIA agents in the Soviet Block. Both were sentenced to life. Same as Pollard who spied for Israel. A friend and an ally. As much as DUers hate these relations.

And, of course, there were other spies who were caught and were traded back. With the Soviets, with Egypt once.

Where is the comparison?

But hey, why not use any morsel of Israel related story to be engaged in the daily fix on DU of Israeli hatred?

What would DUers do if their wish came true and Israel ceased to exist tomorrow?

I've got news for you: Arabs will continue to kill Arabs. Acts of terror originating from the Middle East will continue. Whom will you blame then? Where will you get you fix? Oxycodon?

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
35. Maybe
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 04:17 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe if you proposed he is more like Bradley Manning, a lot on DU would want him out yesterday.

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