Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Judi Lynn

(160,551 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 04:43 AM Feb 2012

AP Exclusive: US No-Fly list doubles in 1 year

AP Exclusive: US No-Fly list doubles in 1 year
By EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press
11:25 p.m., Feb. 1, 2012

WASHINGTON — Even as the Obama administration says it's close to defeating al-Qaida, the size of the government's secret list of suspected terrorists who are banned from flying to or within the United States has more than doubled in the past year, The Associated Press has learned.

The no-fly list jumped from about 10,000 known or suspected terrorists one year ago to about 21,000, according to government figures provided to the AP. Most people on the list are from other countries; about 500 are Americans.

The flood of new names began after the failed Christmas 2009 bombing of a Detroit-bound jetliner. The government lowered the standard for putting people on the list, and then scoured its files for anyone who qualified. The government will not disclose who is on its list or why someone might have been placed on it.

The surge in the size of the no-fly list comes even as the U.S. has killed many senior members of al-Qaida. That's because the government believes the current terror threat extends well beyond the group responsible for the September 2001 attacks.

More:
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/feb/01/ap-exclusive-us-no-fly-list-doubles-in-1-year/

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

eyewall

(674 posts)
1. I remember hearing that the names were blocked, not the individuals.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 05:16 AM
Feb 2012

So if a no-fly name was the same as yours, you would not fly. There was a case where the name matched a young child and the child was not allowed to fly. I've heard of several such stories. If it's true, then 20,000 names could easily represent 100,000 people or more.

This sounds like a system that will collapse on itself, or have they added more details, like age or SS numbers?

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
3. OH really? How about every story that pops up every few months about a family not being
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 08:40 AM
Feb 2012

allowed to fly because baby/kid's name is on no-fly list. I'm talking about ages infant to 8 years old.



You would think that list would shrink with all the "terrorists" we have either caught or killed.


It's nothing more than a scam. That no-fly list is really a censor list. How else to do explain Randy Rhodes being on the list after she spoke out against Bush. I believe Namoi Wolfe or Kline (I do get the two women mixed up.) claims she is on the list.

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/08/randi-rhodes-no-fly-list-seattle-air.html

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Professor_who_criticized_Bush_added_to_0409.html

http://boingboing.net/2008/01/10/another-fiveyearold.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/14/nyregion/14watchlist.html


TSA and the No Fly List are bad jokes on the American Public!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. Well, I dunno. I'm off the damn thing, I think, and I don't think that's an accident.
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 05:21 AM
Feb 2012

I got shit every time (no, that is not hyperbole--EVERY time) I flew in the Bush years. Now, I get a smile and a "Have a nice flight."

Maybe they've gotten better at scrubbing their lists, or something. I don't know.

All I can tell you is that it is like night and day.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
5. One of my relatives it a recent addition
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 06:44 PM
Feb 2012

Shares a name and birthdate with some guy who raises money for Kahane Chai, an Israeli extremist group. First got flagged last summer.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»AP Exclusive: US No-Fly l...