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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:59 PM Feb 2013

Iran Says It Has Captured A Foreign 'Enemy Drone'

Last edited Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard said Saturday that it had captured a foreign unmanned aircraft during a military exercise in southern Iran.

Gen. Hamid Sarkheili, a spokesman for the military exercise, said the Guard's electronic warfare unit spotted signals indicating that foreign drones were trying to enter Iranian airspace. Sarkheili said Guard experts took control of one drone's navigation system and brought it down near the city of Sirjan where the military drills began on Saturday.

"While probing signals in the area, we spotted foreign and enemy drones which attempted to enter the area of the war game," the official IRNA news agency quoted the general as saying. "We were able to get one enemy drone to land."

Sarkheili did not say whether the drone was American.

In Washington, a CIA spokeswoman declined to comment on the report.

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UPDATE: Iran's Revolutionary Guard denies drone capture

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard is denying that it captured a foreign unmanned aircraft during a military exercise in southern Iran.

A spokesman for the Guard, Yasin Hasanali, told The Associated Press that the drone was actually being used during the drill as a supposed enemy aircraft.

Iranian media on Saturday quoted a spokesman for the Guard as saying that its electronic warfare unit had taken control of a foreign drone's navigation system and forced it to land during the site of the military exercise.

Iran has claimed to have captured several U.S. drones, including an advanced RQ-170 Sentinel CIA spy drone in December 2011 and at least three ScanEagle aircraft.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAN_DRONE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/02/23/iran-captured-drone/1941837/



Well, no one disputes that they have done it before...
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they usually straight off say iamthebandfanman Feb 2013 #1
Iran isn't necessarily an aggressive country so that wouldn't be in their interests at this time. Purveyor Feb 2013 #2
not aggressive? iamthebandfanman Feb 2013 #3
Look how the USA has taken care of OWS. How many DUers are against them or question their motives? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #6
No they do not participate in other countrys like we do. They never start wars.. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #25
Their proxies definitely fight wars hack89 Feb 2013 #47
The media's done a fine job of making iran look like a moustache-twirling villain Scootaloo Feb 2013 #4
"Suicide bomber drone?" Aren't those normally called "missiles?" (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #11
I understand the economic sancitions but I resent the communication cutoff between our societies. Sunlei Feb 2013 #51
Might try explaining that to the 52 Americans held hostage for over a year. nt cstanleytech Feb 2013 #17
The US was using its embassy for covert operations in Iran. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #18
Every government down through history has used their embassies to spy on other countries. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #19
The US wasn't just using its embassy to spy. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #21
I never said the US was lily white pure ron, just that the 55 might have a difference of opinion. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #28
The US and British governments ronnie624 Feb 2013 #44
So you believe if we ignore the government of Iran then that they will be less insane? cstanleytech Feb 2013 #45
We should normalize relations with Iran. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #50
I dont think normalizing relations is likely as long as Iran keeps on ignoring cstanleytech Feb 2013 #52
Iran is entitled to develop nuclear power, as per the NPT. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #53
Yet thats not always the case with nations, take N Korea for example. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #54
Hi ronnie, just thought you might enjoy a little update over the IAEA and Iran since cstanleytech Mar 2013 #56
Hi there. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #59
And did you notice where Yukiya Amano the Director General for the IAEA said cstanleytech Mar 2013 #60
No, I didn't. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #61
Try this link cstanleytech Mar 2013 #66
Can you point out, specifically, ronnie624 Mar 2013 #67
Could I? Probably. Will I? No. cstanleytech Mar 2013 #68
Iran is providing the cooperation that is required by its agreements with the IAEA. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #69
From those links I provided officials with the IAEA would appear to disagree with you ron. cstanleytech Mar 2013 #70
When was the last time a US presidency was overthrown by a foreign government? Ash_F Feb 2013 #23
Were all the 55 at fault for that Ash? No, they were not. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #27
I didn't say that. Ash_F Feb 2013 #30
"I didn't say that." Just like I didnt say our government hasnt screwed up. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #31
You understand it was an American led coup that ousted their democratically elected leadership? Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #26
All of them? That is actually news to me. Got a link to official documentation stating that they cstanleytech Feb 2013 #29
Not spies, agents of a foreign power, very very different. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #32
You mean like Jerry Plotkin? cstanleytech Feb 2013 #33
I'll take you you have never heard of neoliberlism. Do a little light reading Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #35
I'll take it then that you were not aware of Plotkin then. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #36
So you don't understand the role business people play in neoliberalism? Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #37
I understand just fine........whats going on here. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #38
Agents of a foreign power, never said government. Obviously close reading isn't your strong point Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #39
Interesting, so now you are claiming Plotkin was an agent for the US? Never heard that one to be cstanleytech Feb 2013 #40
Here is a link on neoliberlism, it should clear everything up for you. Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #41
So, how do you figure that proves your claim that Jerry Plotkin was cstanleytech Feb 2013 #42
Once again your close reading is terrible agent of a foreign power, not spy or government employee Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #43
Ah yes the "you lack reading comprehension" escape card, well played sir, well played indeed. nt cstanleytech Feb 2013 #46
1953 green for victory Mar 2013 #58
Theories? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #5
This is not the first one in Iran's possession, and the first one was one of ours. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #12
It was a nice one, too. OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #13
You are asking why they won't use them to bomb US military? Ash_F Feb 2013 #22
LOL this time for sure. Robb Feb 2013 #7
Or the second time...perhaps? Purveyor Feb 2013 #8
You're no dummy. Riddle us this: Robb Feb 2013 #9
Which one? Today announcement or the one the US acknowledged they have from 2011? Purveyor Feb 2013 #10
I still think they get the ones we want them to get... WheelWalker Feb 2013 #14
LOL. Would make for a good Faux Knews fantasy segment. Of course they are that stupid, indeed. Purveyor Feb 2013 #15
Iran's Revolutionary Guard denies drone capture Bosonic Feb 2013 #16
Thanks for the update. I've included it in the OP. eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #24
Shoot. I hope they don't steal the technology and then use them shcrane71 Feb 2013 #20
Did it look like this? LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #34
They got that one drone we saw it in Irans pictures and we officially asked for it back. Sunlei Feb 2013 #48
There is an article in the second half of the OP with the Revolutionary Guard denying they Purveyor Feb 2013 #49
Frickin' Predator engines made in China. nt cbrer Feb 2013 #55
Probably an American or Israeli drone Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #57
As opposed to a DOMESTIC "enemy drone"? Ken Burch Mar 2013 #62
Maybe a foreign friendly drone. bluedigger Mar 2013 #63
We need a Disney-like graphic for that... Ken Burch Mar 2013 #64
Done bluedigger Mar 2013 #65

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
1. they usually straight off say
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:52 PM
Feb 2013

american :p

wonder if it was actually ours this time ?


at any rate..
if they are gaining control of these aircraft
then why havent they just used them for their own uses? or made them into suicide bomber drones (that would explode the next time they landed) ?
seems like if u were working quick enough,
you could get one to land... put a bomb in it... and then have it back in the air n back under the US control ..then next time it lands.. boom?

not trying to give people ideas but... seems like theyd be doing more with them than just photo ops

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
2. Iran isn't necessarily an aggressive country so that wouldn't be in their interests at this time.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:57 PM
Feb 2013

They did observe our illegal invasion of its neighbor, Iraq and are preparing accordingly.

After that 'crusade'... who they hell can really blame them?

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
3. not aggressive?
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:10 PM
Feb 2013

you mean, not formally aggressive?


i mean, they do participate in other countrys affairs just as we do..
not to mention id say how they treat any resistance from their own population as definitely aggressive...

im not sure what you mean by 'not in their interests'..
such an action could be blamed on others after all..
i dont think such actions would be cause for war...
i dont honestly believe either side wants that, regardless of what some hawks in congress try to say..
and seeing as the aircraft was there illegally.. and not supposed to be known about..
we usually just deny and move on :p

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
6. Look how the USA has taken care of OWS. How many DUers are against them or question their motives?
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:57 PM
Feb 2013

You don't always have to use brute force to take care of what you perceive as an opponent. Police infiltration, permit revocation, pepper spray? All that and more is how the USA handles dissent that they don't like.

Iran shoots and kills people.

So the USA is just more refined in its tactics, but it still gets its job done.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
25. No they do not participate in other countrys like we do. They never start wars..
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:48 PM
Feb 2013

The Iranians have not started a war of aggression for well over a Century long before they even resembled the modern Iranian nation state. The US goes out and finds wars, that is about as different as night and day. Even their last most brutal war was waged against them by Saddam on the behalf of the US think about that for a second before you try to equate our two countries. When was the last time Iran armed Mexico and bullied them into war with us?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. The media's done a fine job of making iran look like a moustache-twirling villain
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:11 PM
Feb 2013

"Suicide bomber drone"? The inane shit people dream up to vilify who the media has trained them to hate.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
51. I understand the economic sancitions but I resent the communication cutoff between our societies.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:56 AM
Feb 2013

All people should have a free and open internet with the entire world.

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ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
18. The US was using its embassy for covert operations in Iran.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:09 AM
Feb 2013

The concept may seem odd to you, but other countries have a right to defend themselves against predators, like the US government.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
19. Every government down through history has used their embassies to spy on other countries.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:02 PM
Feb 2013

But how about stopping with trying to make excuses for Iran? What they did was reprehensible just as Gitmo is reprehensible.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
21. The US wasn't just using its embassy to spy.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:23 PM
Feb 2013

It was using it to coordinate terrorist attacks against Iran. What would the US do if another country was found to be using its embassy in an attempted coup d'etat against the US government?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
28. I never said the US was lily white pure ron, just that the 55 might have a difference of opinion.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:36 PM
Feb 2013

Unless of course you believe all the hostages were at "fault" for the actions of our government.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
44. The US and British governments
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:03 AM
Feb 2013

have been waging war against the Iranian people since 1953. They are 100% responsible for all of the developments in Iran since then, including the extremist elements that now control Iranian civil society. The opinions of the 55 hostages are of no consequence. More intervention by the US in the Middle East, will do nothing but make things worse there.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
45. So you believe if we ignore the government of Iran then that they will be less insane?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Feb 2013

Forgive me but I find that difficult to believe, after all we tried it here in the US and the nut jobs are now in charge of the GOP and even managed to seize control of congress.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
50. We should normalize relations with Iran.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:11 AM
Feb 2013

That's what the Iranian people want. It isn't our place to reform their government. That's a job for the people there. The current government is a direct result of US intervention. More of the same will only make things worse.

I don't understand your analogy to the political situation in the US. That isn't a result of foreign intervention. We have ourselves to blame for that. Anyway, the last thing I would want, is a foreign power forcing its will on my country.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
52. I dont think normalizing relations is likely as long as Iran keeps on ignoring
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:58 PM
Feb 2013

the concerns of varies nations including the US as far as its nuke program goes ron.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
53. Iran is entitled to develop nuclear power, as per the NPT.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:37 AM
Feb 2013

There is no evidence of nuclear weapons, or even a program. The IAEA's report is clear on this. All signatories, however, according to the NPT, are forbidden from forcing arbitrary decisions on other signatories.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
54. Yet thats not always the case with nations, take N Korea for example.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:02 AM
Feb 2013

They claimed peaceful development but now they are anything but behaving in a peaceful manner and are now attempting to blackmail the US and considering statements by the Iranian government I believe Iran would probably do the same thing plus you are forgetting the other thing which is a bigger thing that the weapons aspect imo.
That thing being I thought we were supposed to try discouraging any government (including our own) from building nuclear power plants and instead to encourage investment in green forms of energy rather than nuclear power which has the severe drawbacks of accidents (like Fukushima and Chernobyl) not to mention the problem with the long term storage of spent fuel?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
56. Hi ronnie, just thought you might enjoy a little update over the IAEA and Iran since
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:48 PM
Mar 2013

after all you did bring them and their reports regarding Iran in over this, enjoy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014414360

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
59. Hi there.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:55 AM
Mar 2013

Did you notice that article doesn't mention an IAEA report, at all, and that it doesn't say Iran is in violation of the NPT?

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
61. No, I didn't.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:24 AM
Mar 2013

I saw where the author of the article presumably paraphrased, but I saw no quote. Anyway, the official report is where the rubber meets the road.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
66. Try this link
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:14 AM
Mar 2013
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=44274

He is quoted as saying

“However, Iran is not providing the necessary cooperation to enable us to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities. The Agency therefore cannot conclude that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities,”

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
68. Could I? Probably. Will I? No.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:33 PM
Mar 2013

Why? Thats not my job but rather thats what the IAEA is for and as I have shown ron they cannot provide assurance that Irans nuclear material is being used purely for peaceful activities because the IAEA (who you brought up in the first place) is not getting the cooperation from Iran that it needs.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
69. Iran is providing the cooperation that is required by its agreements with the IAEA.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:42 PM
Mar 2013

Arbitrary demands are not legally enforceable, which is why the official IAEA report says Iran is in compliance.

You are attempting to create false impressions in the minds of the gullible, with misinformation.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
70. From those links I provided officials with the IAEA would appear to disagree with you ron.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:52 PM
Mar 2013

As for spreading misinformation please post your proof that Director General Yukiya Amano never made that statement because I for one honestly would be interested in reading it.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
23. When was the last time a US presidency was overthrown by a foreign government?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:01 PM
Feb 2013

Your attempt to diminish the United States misdeeds against the Iranian people with that statement demonstrates either an ignorance of history, lack of logic or apologetic bias.

That said, no Iran does not need excuses, but the US can clean up its act at the same time. It does not have to be one or the other.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
27. Were all the 55 at fault for that Ash? No, they were not.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:32 PM
Feb 2013

Edit: And I grasp history just well thank you, I just dont believe in chewing on things decades in the past like old vomit.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
30. I didn't say that.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:49 PM
Feb 2013

In, fact I think nearly all of them were innocent of any wrong doing. The people who were truly culpable were the policy makers in Washington running the show. If any of the embassy workers tried to go against the grain, they would have gotten the Bradley Manning treatment.

As far as chewing on the past. You were the one who brought it up by speaking of the hostage crisis, which was a tiny response compared to destroying their Democracy.

You were passing off the overthrow as no big deal. If you know the history, then your problem is one of the other two things I listed.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
31. "I didn't say that." Just like I didnt say our government hasnt screwed up.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:13 PM
Feb 2013

Because the fact is it like many governments of the world does screw up and do things it knows it shouldnt do.
As for me bring it up the only reason I did was to point out that the government of Iran isnt exactly an angel anymore than ours is.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
26. You understand it was an American led coup that ousted their democratically elected leadership?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:57 PM
Feb 2013

These weren't civilians they held, they were agents of a foreign power who had proven to be an existential treat to their nations sovereignty. There is no versions of history where we can paint the Iranians as villains without facing the rank hypocrisy of our own actions. We have far and away done more harm to those people and that region then both Shahs and the ruling council combined.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
29. All of them? That is actually news to me. Got a link to official documentation stating that they
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:38 PM
Feb 2013

were all spies?

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
35. I'll take you you have never heard of neoliberlism. Do a little light reading
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:09 PM
Feb 2013

and you can easily come to the answer yourself as to what constitutes an agent of a foreign power.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
38. I understand just fine........whats going on here.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:35 PM
Feb 2013

Look, its not a big deal and you do not need to be defensive that you were wrong about all the hostages being agents of the government, its ok.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
39. Agents of a foreign power, never said government. Obviously close reading isn't your strong point
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:41 PM
Feb 2013

If you understood neoliberlism at all then you would understand a business person is an agent of a foreign power.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
40. Interesting, so now you are claiming Plotkin was an agent for the US? Never heard that one to be
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:12 PM
Feb 2013

honest. Happen to have link handy to that info?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
42. So, how do you figure that proves your claim that Jerry Plotkin was
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:24 PM
Feb 2013

an agent of the government? Do you have some unclassified documents? What about a copy of a letter he wrote admitting it?

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
43. Once again your close reading is terrible agent of a foreign power, not spy or government employee
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:34 PM
Feb 2013

or any of the other things you would like to pretend I said which I didn't.

Obviously your reading comprehension level hinders any meaningful interaction. In all seriousness you should take the time to learn if not about neoliberlism at least about mercantilism and traditional imperialism, the world will be a far less confusing place for you.

 

green for victory

(591 posts)
58. 1953
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 05:03 PM
Mar 2013

Koppel babbled on for 444 days and never mentioned the Elephant in the Living Room. (because the 1953 coup was still classified)

Who says the Gov can't keep a secret?



Spreading Democracy-
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Theories?
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:53 PM
Feb 2013

Perhaps the Chinese or Russians or both are working with them to capture drones: US or otherwise.

If their capture policy is in its infancy then you want to learn as much a you can, before yo would turn them into suicide bombers.


But that is a good question to ask.


Perhaps in time they would do just that, but not capture them. If the Iranians were able to capture one in their country then perhaps the could commandeer one outside of its borders, use it to destroy a soft or hard target and blame it on the USA.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
22. You are asking why they won't use them to bomb US military?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:53 PM
Feb 2013

Because there is no real motivation to and it would not be a good idea. That's why.

The Fox news has done a good job of brain washing Americans into thinking Middle Easterners are just foaming at the mouth and can't wait to kill any of us the second they have the chance. They can strike us in a lot of ways, but they don't. People need to grow up look at the situation as it exists, not some action movie fantasy of bad guys trying to destroy the world.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
7. LOL this time for sure.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:13 PM
Feb 2013

I look forward to additional patented Iranian Shake-O-Cam(tm) footage of this one, too.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
8. Or the second time...perhaps?
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:27 PM
Feb 2013

The government of Iran announced that the aircraft was brought down by its Cyber warfare unit stationed near Kashmar[3][4][5][6] and "brought down with minimum damage"[7] They said the aircraft was detected in Iranian airspace some 225 kilometers (140 mi) from the border with Afghanistan.[8]

The government of the United States initially claimed that its forces in Afghanistan had lost control of a UAV on 4 December 2011 and that there was a possibility that this is the vehicle that crashed near Kashmar. According to unnamed U.S. officials, a U.S. UAV operated by the Central Intelligence Agency was flying on the Afghan side of the Afghanistan-Iran border when its operators lost control of the vehicle.[9][10] There have been reports that "foreign officials and American experts who have been briefed on the effort" state that the crashed UAV was taking part in routine surveillance of Iranian nuclear facilities inside Iranian airspace.[11]

The drone appeared to be largely intact, except for possible minor visible damage on its left wing. Dan Goure, an analyst at the Lexington Institute, stated the largely intact airframe ruled out the possibility of an engine or navigational malfunction: "Either this was a cyber/electronic warfare attack system that brought the system down or it was a glitch in the command-and-control system."[12] Stephen Trimble from Flight Global assumes[13] UAV guidance could be targeted by 1L222 Avtobaza radar jamming and deception system supplied to Iran by Russia.

The Department of Defense released a statement acknowledging that it had lost control of a UAV during the previous week, claiming that it was "flying a mission over western Afghanistan" when control was lost. The statement did not specify the model of the aircraft. The U.S. government also stated that it was still investigating the cause of the loss.[14]

A Christian Science Monitor article relates an Iranian engineer's assertion that the drone was captured by jamming both satellite and land-originated control signals to the UAV, followed up by a GPS spoofing attack that fed the UAV false GPS data to make it land in Iran at what the drone thought was its home base in Afghanistan. In an interview for Nova, U.S. retired Lt. General David Deptula also said "There was a problem with the aircraft and it landed in an area it wasn't supposed to land".[15][16] American aeronautical engineers dispute this, pointing out that as is the case with the MQ-1 Predator, the MQ-9 Reaper, and the Tomahawk (missile), "GPS is not the primary navigation sensor for the RQ-170... The vehicle gets its flight path orders from an inertial navigation system".[17] Inertial navigation continues to be used on military aircraft despite the advent of GPS because GPS signal jamming and spoofing are relatively simple operations.[18]

US acknowledgement

On 6 December 2011, U.S. officials acknowledged that a drone crashed in or near Iranian airspace and that this belonged to the CIA and not to ISAF as was earlier stated. U.S. officials did not state that the drone shown on Iranian television was actually a real RQ-170 (which has been public knowledge since 2009),[19] although a former U.S. official confirmed that the drone shown on the Iranian state media was a U.S. RQ-170, used for surveillance of Tehran's nuclear facilities.

On 5 December 2011, U.S. military sources confirmed that the remains of an RQ-170 had been captured by Iranian forces. However, media reports indicated that various U.S. officials declined to confirm whether or not the drone in the video released by Iranian state television was authentic.[20] On 8 December 2011, a senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Washington Post that the U.S. cannot be certain the drone shown was real because the U.S. does not have access to it, but also stated that "We have no indication that it was brought down by hostile fire."[14] A second senior U.S. military official said that a major question is how the drone could have remained "virtually intact," given the high altitude from which it is said to have crashed. U.S. Navy Captain John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, told a news conference on 8 December 2011 that Pentagon analysts were examining the video.[21] Both Kirby and fellow spokesman George Little would not comment further on whether the U.S. military believed the drone was the one missing, both did say that the missing drone had not been recovered.[21] However, later that day, CBS reported that the US officials have confirmed in private the authenticity of the drone shown by the Iranians.[22]

Various experts interviewed by CNN stated that the drone looked real and noted a lack of damage that a firefight would have inflicted. They posited that system failure such as a "flat spin" or "falling leaf departure" would have resulted in damage to the belly of the aircraft but little damage to other components.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. You're no dummy. Riddle us this:
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:34 PM
Feb 2013

Why have we seen exactly one shakey-cam video of this thing, from a distance?

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
10. Which one? Today announcement or the one the US acknowledged they have from 2011?
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:39 PM
Feb 2013

If it is the most recent...stay tuned.

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
14. I still think they get the ones we want them to get...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:30 AM
Feb 2013

Plug that puppy into your network and see what the booby prize is today.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
16. Iran's Revolutionary Guard denies drone capture
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:56 AM
Feb 2013

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard is denying that it captured a foreign unmanned aircraft during a military exercise in southern Iran.

A spokesman for the Guard, Yasin Hasanali, told The Associated Press that the drone was actually being used during the drill as a supposed enemy aircraft.

Iranian media on Saturday quoted a spokesman for the Guard as saying that its electronic warfare unit had taken control of a foreign drone's navigation system and forced it to land during the site of the military exercise.

Iran has claimed to have captured several U.S. drones, including an advanced RQ-170 Sentinel CIA spy drone in December 2011 and at least three ScanEagle aircraft.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_IRAN_DRONE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
20. Shoot. I hope they don't steal the technology and then use them
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:17 PM
Feb 2013

on targeted assassinations of Westerners.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
48. They got that one drone we saw it in Irans pictures and we officially asked for it back.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:03 PM
Feb 2013

The Iranians would pose for pictures next to any other drones they 'captured'. This could be more of a fib about capture several drones or a veiled threat, sword rattling. This generation of Iranian adults have no love for Americans. I would think we would mostly use our satellites to keep an eye on what we want. But who knows? this is our Federal military who are known for big spending on their military toys. Wonder how many billions we have spent on the federal drone program.


 

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49. There is an article in the second half of the OP with the Revolutionary Guard denying they
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:22 PM
Feb 2013

captured another drone.

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