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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:48 PM Jan 2012

McDonald's drops use of gooey ammonia-based 'pink slime' in hamburger meat

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McDonald's confirmed that it has eliminated the use of ammonium hydroxide — an ingredient in fertilizers, household cleaners and some roll-your-own explosives — in its hamburger meat.

The company denied that its decision was influenced by a months-long campaign by celebrity chef Jamie Oliver to get ammonium-hydroxide-treated meats like chicken and beef out of the U.S. food supply. But it acknowledged this week that it had stopped using the unappetizing pink goo — made from treating otherwise inedible scrap meat with the chemical — several months ago.

Besides being used as a household cleaner and in fertilizers, the compound releases flammable vapors, and with the addition of certain acids, it can be turned into ammonium nitrate, a common component in homemade bombs. It's also widely used in the food industry as an anti-microbial agent in meats and as a leavener in bread and cake products. It's regulated by the U.S. Agriculture Department, which classifies it as "generally recognized as safe."

McDonald's decision was first reported this week by the Daily Mail, a blaring British tabloid, which trumpeted it as a victory for fellow Brit Oliver against the monolithic U.S. food industry.

More and see the video at: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/31/10282876-mcdonalds-drops-use-of-gooey-ammonia-based-pink-slime-in-hamburger-meat

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McDonald's drops use of gooey ammonia-based 'pink slime' in hamburger meat (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2012 OP
that's gross. nt limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #1
Sounds soooo gross! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2012 #2
I long ago gave up the idea that there was ANY meat in a fast food hamburger Merlot Jan 2012 #3
This stuff is used in a WHOLE bunch of foods klook Jan 2012 #4
Just think, next they will be wanting to put ammonia on plants! izquierdista Feb 2012 #9
Plants eat ammonia.. sendero Feb 2012 #22
No plants don't eat ammonia they eat the nitrates zeemike Feb 2012 #32
wow, you fail big time AlecBGreen Feb 2012 #33
just in case Im not being clear AlecBGreen Feb 2012 #34
NooOO! Not Eggnog! joshcryer Feb 2012 #15
They oughta make a marketing campaign around this tabasco Jan 2012 #5
ACK that picture again! tibbiit Feb 2012 #6
Dang.......... Scottybeamer70 Feb 2012 #7
But I like pink slime TrogL Feb 2012 #8
For a better christx30 Feb 2012 #10
AAAK! I thought they only put that in Chicken Nuggets... SunSeeker Feb 2012 #11
What, you thought those were apples? cstanleytech Feb 2012 #12
But what they use next might be worse ... aikanae Feb 2012 #13
OMG, Soylent green!!! cstanleytech Feb 2012 #17
You color blind? Obviously Soylent Pink. Kablooie Feb 2012 #35
I ain't going to lie, I enjoy a McDouble every now and again. joshcryer Feb 2012 #14
Google "Ban DHMO"... gadjitfreek Feb 2012 #16
Don't be so freaking cavalier about it Orrex Feb 2012 #18
And oxygen and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are natural too. Rozlee Feb 2012 #27
What this guy said AngryAmish Feb 2012 #29
Please, stop trying to inject rational facts.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #40
Thank you Travelman Feb 2012 #42
In the documentary "Food Inc.", they sprayed diseased meat with ammonia to kill microbes Kolesar Feb 2012 #19
Dammit! Found in Yonkers Feb 2012 #20
I've noticed that hamburgers at fast food places just don't taste like meat anymore. fasttense Feb 2012 #21
That's like saying the tobacco industry removed one of the hundreds of chemicals from cigarettes. onehandle Feb 2012 #23
UGH!!! GTurck Feb 2012 #24
Another victory for Jamie Oliver LittleGirl Feb 2012 #25
When my kids beg for McDonalds I now go to HEB (our grocery chain) to buy TBF Feb 2012 #26
Did the video say 70% of ALL ground beef we buy Rozlee Feb 2012 #28
Every so often some halfwit takes it upon themselves to ruin McDonald's food AngryAmish Feb 2012 #30
And We're Worried About Terrorists Killing Us Yavin4 Feb 2012 #31
McFood is simply disgusting ground up shit you wouldn't eat at home. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #36
Damn... now where am I going to go for a McSlime? n/t IDemo Feb 2012 #37
McDonald's - The Cows Revenge adigal Feb 2012 #38
Wow! Looks like MSNBC got punk'd KamaAina Feb 2012 #39
Yet according to your link in Jan. 2012 McDonald's announced fasttense Feb 2012 #41
Yese, they did... Travelman Feb 2012 #43
It's two separate (tee hee) issues KamaAina Feb 2012 #44
Ugh. What a disgusting pic. But everyone should educate themselves on where their food comes from. Politicub Feb 2012 #45
Not at all. It looks yummy like a ... reACTIONary Feb 2012 #46
This is not what McDonalds in the UK is made from... Londoncalling Feb 2012 #47
omg, no wonder! wordpix Feb 2012 #48

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
3. I long ago gave up the idea that there was ANY meat in a fast food hamburger
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

just look at the pictures...does that look like anything remotely resembling hamburger? And I ate PLENTY real hamburgers as a kid, so I do know what they look like.

Although I haven't had meat in almost 30 years, I am more opposed to the way animals are treated and the chemicals, drugs, and hormones they are filled with than I am actually opposed to eating meat. I decided that it was healthier not to eat meat.

Look at all the pink slime I've missed in the past 30 years!

klook

(12,155 posts)
4. This stuff is used in a WHOLE bunch of foods
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

It's approved by the FDA for use in many foods, including eggnog, condensed milk, breakfast cereals (including rolled oats), vinegars, mustards, peanut butter, sports drinks, beer, pudding, etc.

Complete list here:
http://www.codexalimentarius.net/gsfaonline/additives/details.html?id=380

Good reason to eat non-processed, organic, locally produced foods whenever possible.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
9. Just think, next they will be wanting to put ammonia on plants!
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:40 AM
Feb 2012

Like wheat, soybeans, turnips, and kumquats!

sendero

(28,552 posts)
22. Plants eat ammonia..
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:28 AM
Feb 2012

..... I eat plants. Animals eat all kinds of things I would not eat, but I will eat the animals. If you think you have some kind of point, you don't.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
32. No plants don't eat ammonia they eat the nitrates
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:48 AM
Feb 2012

that the ammonia binds together.
Plants need three things to grow ans survive...NPK...Nitrogen, Phosphors and Potash...

tibbiit

(1,601 posts)
6. ACK that picture again!
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:02 AM
Feb 2012

This grossed me out so much that I quit eating beef at restaurants. I may have nightmares from seeing the picture again. I may never eat soft serve strawberry ice cream again either! lol

Really that's good for them to take that revolting mess out of their food!
Now I know what 100% beef means, not pink slime!

Exclamation point! lol sorry
tib

Scottybeamer70

(873 posts)
7. Dang..........
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:04 AM
Feb 2012

if that wouldn't make ya a vegetarian, then I don't know what would.
"inedible scrap meat"...........yeah..........that's what I want for dinner!
OMG.......that is just gross.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
10. For a better
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 12:43 AM
Feb 2012

strawberry shake, go to an actual ice cream shop. I like going to Marble Slab and getting sweet cream with strawberries. I drink that so fast I get an ice cream headache, but I am smiling the whole time.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
11. AAAK! I thought they only put that in Chicken Nuggets...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 01:31 AM
Feb 2012

I remember reading a story about the pink slime they make chicken nuggets out of, and the picture looked just like that. Good grief, looks like the only thing I can eat at McDonalds is the apple pie...or is it in that too?

gadjitfreek

(399 posts)
16. Google "Ban DHMO"...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:12 AM
Feb 2012

It's ammonia. Pure and simple. What's with the fertilizer and explosives crap? It's AMMONIA. Ammonia water, to be precise, NH4OH. The hyperbole in this article is unnecessary. Did you know that your local supermarket hits the meat with carbon monoxide to increase the redness and make it look more appetizing? The second-to-last line about being used as an anti-microbial agent in meats and declared safe by the USAD was an afterthought in a highly biased article that uses scary language to push a point. Don't fall for it. You can play this game with pretty much any compound out there. Dihydrogen monoxide is used by the Navy to help them kill people. It is highly toxic in high enough concentrations and breathing in any amount is fatal. It is used in the manufacture of industrial equipment and has been used as an agent against protestors. It's frickin' WATER. H2O. Don't be so quick to believe hyperbole like this article. Anyone who eats at McDonald's is facing far worse health risks than a little ammonium hydroxide. When bagels are made, they are dipped into sodium hydroxide, also known as lye, also used to convert fat into soap before being boiled. Learn chemistry and overcome hyperbole.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
27. And oxygen and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are natural too.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 09:39 AM
Feb 2012

But, at higher levels than we're adapted to, they're deadly to life on earth. Just see what happens when we get too much UV radiation from the destruction of the ozone. We're living longer and longer lives in the industrialized countries, but I can't help comparing them to the lives of people I've seen who are long-lived in third world countries. I think the only reason we're living so long is because we're full of preservatives. Our health and quality of life as we age are terrible.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
40. Please, stop trying to inject rational facts....
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:35 PM
Feb 2012

into a good case of ignorancant moral hysteria.

It ruins the fun, you see...

Travelman

(708 posts)
42. Thank you
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:19 PM
Feb 2012

for actually dealing in some actual fact here. This "article" is absolutely off the rails.



Yes! Ban DHMO! Do you people know that a key ingredient in DHMO is used to make nuclear bombs?!?! ZOMG!! In fact, a major component of DHMO is so voiltile, it's responsible for the crash of the Hindenberg!!!!! This is dangerous stuff!!



Unfortunately, too many people will get suckered by almost anything presented in a freightening fashion.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
19. In the documentary "Food Inc.", they sprayed diseased meat with ammonia to kill microbes
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:54 AM
Feb 2012

The poor cattle had intestinal disease because they were fed starchy corn instead of grasses. They had evolved to eat grasses.

Hence, those poor critters walked around the feed lot knee-deep in each others' diseased feces.

Have it your way.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
21. I've noticed that hamburgers at fast food places just don't taste like meat anymore.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:11 AM
Feb 2012

Even the ground beef you buy in those rolls at the grocery store don't have the taste of meat.

We are now buying beef from a local farmer. There is quite difference in taste and how hungry you feel after eating a real hamburger. I can barely finish a 1/4 pound hamburger from ground beef from our local farm. But those hamburgers from a fast food place still leave me hungry, yet too full to eat.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
23. That's like saying the tobacco industry removed one of the hundreds of chemicals from cigarettes.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:35 AM
Feb 2012

There's still a lot more things happening in a McDonalds 'hamburger.'

GTurck

(826 posts)
24. UGH!!!
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:49 AM
Feb 2012

I did not know that stuff was in those burgers but frankly I stopped eating most McDonalds a long time ago. Their only decent product is their coffee but someday soon I suppose that will exposed as not what it seems to be.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
25. Another victory for Jamie Oliver
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 08:50 AM
Feb 2012

It took a British guy to get our meat supply cleaned up????

So glad I gave up McDonald's in the 80s. That's just ewwwwwwwwwwww.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
26. When my kids beg for McDonalds I now go to HEB (our grocery chain) to buy
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 08:53 AM
Feb 2012

fresh food and pick up a small toy for them. They are liking the new system.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
28. Did the video say 70% of ALL ground beef we buy
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 09:48 AM
Feb 2012

is made from this rendered beef mixture, not just McDonalds and all fast food? I read in "Eat This, Not That," that most fast food joints, including McDonalds, buy this ammonia-based filler at a centralized beef distributor. So, Wendy's, Whataburger, Burger King and all the other chains are possibly also using the process. It's why I stopped eating at all fast food joints completely. But, if he's saying even store bought beef is treated this way, I may never eat another hamburger.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
30. Every so often some halfwit takes it upon themselves to ruin McDonald's food
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:29 AM
Feb 2012

When I was a kid McDonald's smelled like heaven. It was because they fried their fries in beef tallow.

Then a bunch of people decided beef tallow was bad for you. They demanded McDonald's get rid of the beef tallow. McDonald's still wanted to make fries and people still wanted to eat them. So the food scientists at McDonalds searched and decided 100% vegetable transfats were the ticket.

Smart move there.

Beef tallow - much more good cholesterol than bad. Transfat - liquid heart attack.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
31. And We're Worried About Terrorists Killing Us
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:42 AM
Feb 2012

McD's will kill more Americans in a day than all Islamic terrorists will do in a century.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
38. McDonald's - The Cows Revenge
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012

I think that every time I go past there, all those people eating so unhealthily. I gave it up a few years ago. Thank goodness. Now the smell makes me sick.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
41. Yet according to your link in Jan. 2012 McDonald's announced
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:11 PM
Feb 2012

they had ceased using ammonium hydroxide-treated beef in their hamburgers.

So, they must have been putting it into their hamburgers before 2012.

Anyway, I'm sure if we read the regulations carefully there are exemptions to using mechanically separated beef.

Travelman

(708 posts)
43. Yese, they did...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:24 PM
Feb 2012

...but it wasn't over separated meat. Everyone should go read this post and stop to think for a minute rather than flying off the handle at something that sounds "scary" and "gross."

This stuff is used in all sorts of stuff, it's common, and it's not harmful. It is a mild base. Even if you've never eaten McDonald's or indeed any other food treated with this stuff in your life, you have ammonium hydroxide floating around in your bloodstream.



You've just been fear-mongered by MSNBC.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
44. It's two separate (tee hee) issues
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 06:41 PM
Feb 2012

The "pink slime" is mechanically separated meat. Pork and poultry are OK (or at least legal ), beef is not.

Ammonium hydroxide is a chemical used with pink slime AND real meat. It is sensationalistic to call it "the 'pink slime' chemical".

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
46. Not at all. It looks yummy like a ...
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 09:44 PM
Feb 2012

... big dish of pink soft-serve ice cream! Honest, that's what I thought!

Londoncalling

(66 posts)
47. This is not what McDonalds in the UK is made from...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
Feb 2012

Our burgers are made from actual meat...So people point out we had Mad-Cow dieases but that is why the industry had to improve so people would buy beef. He also campaigned for raising the standards of how poultary and pigs are farmed too. I have been a big fan of Jamie Oliver since he started out as with The Naked Chef series. Many of his recipes are easy to use and user friendly for men that want to learn to cook. My own father has used his books which has drastically improved his cooking skills.
Some in UK give Jamie Oliver a hard time for daring to speak out and point out things like British school dinners were disgusting and helping to make our children obese. Also for being young and successful. It has been a huge fight for him because kids are used to diets of fat and sugar and their parents don't want to change their own bad diets so try to sabotage any introduction to healthy eating. In both the UK and the USA he is fighting against people that are hellbent on staying fat and unhealthy and passing it on to there kids. According to the message boards elsewhere they want to eat burgers made of pink slime.
He also does good things with his resturants. http://www.fifteen.net/

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
48. omg, no wonder!
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 02:10 PM
Feb 2012

I had my first taste of a McD's burger since I was a teenager (that was decades ago) recently and could not eat it or even put it in a spaghetti sauce. It tasted like NOTHING or maybe cardboard and now I know why.

GROSSS!!!!

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