Woman's death tied to abortion, says medical examiner
Source: Omaha World Herald
By Rick Ruggles
A Maryland medical examiner has confirmed that a woman's death occurred as a result of complications related to an abortion.
Anti-abortion groups near and far have said the abortion provider in the case was Dr. LeRoy Carhart, whose clinic in Bellevue, Neb., is well-known and often-picketed by anti-abortion entities. Carhart also practices at a Germantown, Md., clinic.
The spokesman for the Maryland Office of the Chief Medical Examiner said the doctor isn't named on the woman's death certificate and that he couldn't verify that Carhart was the doctor involved.
Carhart did not return phone calls Thursday.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20130221/NEWS/130229901/1685#woman-s-death-tied-to-abortion-says-medical-examiner
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)From the article -
Goldfarb said the manner of death officially is from natural causes as opposed to homicide, suicide or accident.
Omaha Steve
(99,665 posts)If the title doesn't tell you you're not interested, why read it?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,013 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,665 posts)I followed the rule. There used to be allowances for clarity. That has been removed from LBN rules. So we are stuck with the sources title.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,013 posts)You could have put the title in quotes and then added -- deceptive title.
Why bother with that article anyway? It's natural causes.
If it really is not newsworthy (it is not newsworthy) but you are bound and determined to post it, then post it in General Discussion with a more appropriate title, like "Woman Dies from Natural Causes" or "Deceptive Article Title used to Spuriously Link to Abortion Doctor".
Omaha Steve
(99,665 posts)I've had so many pro-choice posts on the DU over the years. Strange I have to comment on this at all. I posted this in LBN because to me it belongs here. How else do you know what people are saying about this story in the lunch room tomorrow?
Rachael did a full segment of her show last night about TWO states using parlor tricks to close reproductive clinics: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-rachel-maddow-show/50881776
IF you think the other side of the issue isn't doing maximum promoting of this story your a bit naive.
OS
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)When I come to DU, I don't want to read ANYTHING that might possibly challenge my worldview, even if it ends up confirming my worldview.
/sarcasm
alp227
(32,036 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I almost died giving birth to my son.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)are required to sign all that paperwork any time you undergo any kind of medical procedure or surgery, regardless how minor.
sikofit3
(145 posts)I too had severe complications during child birth... it is a risk of life, every medical procedure carries a risk. I too would like to know why this was posted on DU. These people are really relentless and this is scary, they won't let up until they erode abortion rights... they will wait forever till its accomplished. Stories like these are part of it. Why not post on someone who died during other procedures? This OP does not pass the smell test... I wish there was a way to end this argument once an for all and keep the public out of the personal r helm and this topic out of politics. I am dreaming of course.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Bruce Goldfarb, the spokesman for the Maryland medical examiner, said the death certificate indicates the woman died following the abortion because amniotic fluid seeped into the woman's bloodstream and blood clotting occurred, and because there were "fetal abnormalities."
What's the point with this article? Abortion is dangerous and bad? All operations have varying degrees of risk.
I don't get the poster is trying to say with this.
sybylla
(8,515 posts)People think pregnancy and childbirth is all roses and cheesecake. There are always risks and there always will be.
The woman was being treated by a qualified doctor, no different than any other pregnant woman.
Whether or not the death is due to complications of abortion, it has zero bearing on the abortion debate unless you want to start talking about the risks of death in carrying a baby to full term.
sinkingfeeling
(51,461 posts)performed by one of the country's leading abortion doctors, what do think the chances of survival are when the abortion is performed by a non-doctor in a back alley?
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)backtoblue
(11,344 posts)CBHagman
(16,987 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:19 PM - Edit history (1)
Here's how it's reported in The Washington Post:
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/after-abortion-woman-died-of-natural-causes-from-rare-complication-examiners-initial-finding-says/2013/02/20/3900dec4-7b73-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html[/url]
A 29-year-old woman died of natural causes after visiting an abortion clinic in Montgomery County and suffering a rare complication related to childbirth, according to an initial finding by the Maryland medical examiners office.
The complication, which occurred when amniotic fluid was pushed into the womans bloodstream, can occur during or after abortions, natural deliveries or Caesarean section
(SNIP)
The medical examiner listed three causes of death. One was amniotic fluid embolism following a medical termination of pregnancy, the complication involving amniotic fluid in the womans blood. Another was disseminated intravascular coagulation, a complication in which the body starts producing thousands of tiny blood clots, which have the counterintuitive effect of hampering the bodys ability to clot blood elsewhere. A third was fetal abnormalities.
MsPithy
(809 posts)However, I figured it out from the Omaha rag.
In the 70's I worked in a high-risk perinatal center and DIC (total breakdown of the blood's ability to clot) was one of the scariest situations possible. In the time I worked there, I think we saved only one of the women who diagnosed with DIC.
MsPithy
(809 posts)an Amniotic Fluid Embolism, which can happen in any form of delivery.
niyad
(113,413 posts)because they will use the headlines, and their minions will never bother to read the entire article, nor will they care.
sinkingfeeling
(51,461 posts)niyad
(113,413 posts)are.
and the fact that, if I remember correctly, more women die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth than die from abortion, also carries no weight with them.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)...as if you were some sort of screeching right-wing harpy. Knee-jerk reactions are teh funzy.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)good to know could be a step forward or something
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Well many abortions do happen naturally. We usually call them "miscarriages".
But that's not what you meant.
The article says "COMPLICATIONS related to an abortion" .... not the abortion.
There's a big difference.
Reading comprehension is key to not sounding like a dummy.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)when you read it and BTW the actual medical terminologies are spontaneous abortion meaning what laymen call miscarriage and clinical abortion meaning just that an abortion preformed in a clinic
crim son
(27,464 posts)She didn't die from the abortion, she died from an event that occurs in pregnant women and isn't exclusively tied to abortion. The fetus was abnormal and a regular birth could have caused the same complication.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)that is most late term abortions are preformed
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Sorry. You weren't snarky enough. Your statement sounded exactly like some "pro-life" snark.... not the other way around.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)saying that abortion could be considered a natural cause of death sounds prolife
I understand your misreading now
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Pregnancies have been known to cause death, usually during ir after delivery.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)aren't going after Dr Carhart. Having to go through a later abortion like she did is no piece of cake and not easily chosen. I am sorry that her pregnancy killed her. What an awful situation.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)I have seen death from post operative infection called 'natural causes' too, because what the person died from was fluid buildup in the body cavity, albeit the fluid build up was caused by the infection
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)you get blood clots traveling around your system mucking up your kidneys, heart, brain, lungs, as well as increased bleeding levels. The whole situation from the get go sucks.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)strange as it sounds and the same could have occurred had she given birth also
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)the woman and the embryo/fetus.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)in fact in the past I've read that actually carrying to term and delivering the baby is more risky than a first tri-mester abortion
the reason I asked about infection is that most cases of DIC I've heard of related to pregnancy involved infection of some sort, in this case however it was more likely an allergic reaction to the amniotic fluid, in which case death was quite rapid
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)I thought the poor things were gonna starve to death.