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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:47 PM Feb 2013

Conservative Advocates: Violence Against Women Act Unfair To Men

Source: Talking Points Memo

Claiming that the reauthorization would expand the definition of domestic violence to include “emotional distress,” Heritage declared that the “expansive and vague language will increase fraud and false allegations, for which there is no legal recourse.”

“Under VAWA, men effectively lose their constitutional rights to due process, presumption of innocence, equal treatment under the law, the right to a fair trial and to confront one’s accusers, the right to bear arms, and all custody/visitation rights,” the group wrote. “It is unprecedented, unnecessary and dangerous.”

FreedomWorks also worried that the legislation would be unfair to men.

“The newest version of the VAWA, S.47, contains very vague and broad definitions of domestic violence,” the organization wrote. “A man that raises his voice at his partner, calls her an offensive name, stalks her, causes her any emotional distress, or simply just annoys her can potentially be prosecuted under the VAWA. Calling your spouse a mean name is not advised or polite, but it isn’t the same thing as violence towards her.”


Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/vawa-heritage-freedomworks-unfair-men.php?ref=fpa

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Conservative Advocates: Violence Against Women Act Unfair To Men (Original Post) kpete Feb 2013 OP
Are they unaware that stalking is a criminal offense? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #1
unaware kardonb Feb 2013 #2
Yes. Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #5
RW men only know how to stalk as part of their mating ritual... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #14
Seriously, what they are saying is... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #19
These men are complete losers and don't give a fuck about the women/girls in their lives. GodlessBiker Feb 2013 #3
They are men of the Bible... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #20
Those poor, poor men! Shrike47 Feb 2013 #4
Until the man kills the woman or puts her in the hospital, how can we geek tragedy Feb 2013 #6
EXACTLY!! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #21
My lack of god, that is one bad piece of crap... uriel1972 Feb 2013 #7
Just goes to show how totally clueless Repugs truly are. lark Feb 2013 #8
Well...WTF? SoapBox Feb 2013 #9
+1 burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #16
I remember a polical cartoon... Archae Feb 2013 #10
Oh boo hoo, poor misunderstood, maligned and wrongly persecuted MEN! Myrina Feb 2013 #11
My god, what complete fucking idiots. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #12
They sure do have a way of twisting things. nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #13
They squeal: burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #15
I've seen some comments on DU that seem to agree redqueen Feb 2013 #17
WTF?? obama2terms Feb 2013 #18
Keep digging deeper pubs Ash_F Feb 2013 #22

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
19. Seriously, what they are saying is...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:10 AM
Feb 2013

if a man can't assert control over his wife via aggressive behavior & scare tactics like stalking then he cannot control her effectively...As the Bible says a man should.

These PIGS disgust me!

I could never ever imagine a day where I would treat my wife that way! I have probably raised my voice twice that I can remember & the guilt I felt afterward was overwhelming. My wife is the same way...If we get crabby & say something we should not it is almost immediately followed by an apology. And even that is very rare!

I guess treating your wife as the equal she is & respecting her as a human being is direct threat to men everywhere??????? WTF!?!?!?

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
20. They are men of the Bible...
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:14 AM
Feb 2013

They literally think they have the authority from a sky god that says they can discipline their wives how they see fit.

What amazes me is these idiots think it is OK to complain they would no longer be able to properly stalk their wives & use scare tactics & aggression to get her to do what they say.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
4. Those poor, poor men!
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:03 PM
Feb 2013

It used to be you could keep the little woman in line but nowadays, she just whines a little and the big, bad gummit steps in.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Until the man kills the woman or puts her in the hospital, how can we
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:08 PM
Feb 2013

possibly know that they're a threat to her?

Save the men!

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
21. EXACTLY!!
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:19 AM
Feb 2013

I am a man & could NEVER EVER treat my wife they way these disgusting "Christian Value" fucks are complaining they will not be able to do if VAW bill passes! WTF??

To them it is ALL about control...Like the Bible says.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
7. My lack of god, that is one bad piece of crap...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:13 PM
Feb 2013

the freedom to beat up women is soooo important to these people. It makes me sick and I wonder what they do to women behind closed doors.

lark

(23,147 posts)
8. Just goes to show how totally clueless Repugs truly are.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:16 PM
Feb 2013

They still don't get that women hating is a losing stance for them. All they ever think about are the old white guys who have all the money and could get in trouble for slapping their mistresses around - just to relieve some stress, of course. We certainly don't want that to happen.

Archae

(46,344 posts)
10. I remember a polical cartoon...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:57 PM
Feb 2013

A republican asks his staff, (men of course) why they don't appeal to women.

They say:

"I'll check with my better half"
"I know a broad who might know something"
"Dames"

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
13. They sure do have a way of twisting things.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:13 PM
Feb 2013

“Supporters of the VAWA portray women as helpless victims - this is the kind of attitude that is setting women back.”

So giving the women the power in the courts and justice system NOT to be a helpless victim by making sure her attacker is prosecuted makes them a victim.

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
15. They squeal:
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:20 PM
Feb 2013
A man that raises his voice at his partner, calls her an offensive name, stalks her, causes her any emotional distress, or simply just annoys her can potentially be prosecuted under the VAWA.


And what was this "injustice" you were referring to?
Prosecuted is not condemned. Now that would be unjust.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
17. I've seen some comments on DU that seem to agree
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:11 PM
Feb 2013

that it is unfair to men.

'Men's Rights' sites have been peddling similar anti-VAWA twaddle for a while now.

obama2terms

(563 posts)
18. WTF??
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Feb 2013

Stalking has always been a criminal offense but I guess if your as bat shit crazy as the people against this you would find nothing wrong with it.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
22. Keep digging deeper pubs
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 07:21 AM
Feb 2013
"Heritage Action is scoring VAWA as a “key vote” in determining a lawmaker’s conservative credentials."

This is how they want the conservative brand, America.
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