Neb. mother gets more time for prostituting girls

[DonViejo]

Source: AP

FRANKLIN, Neb. (AP) — A mother convicted of prostituting her 7- and 14-year-old daughters using online ads across south-central Nebraska has received up to 60 more years in prison in her last round of sentencing.

The 36-year-old woman was sentenced Thursday for nine charges in Franklin relating to the prostitution of the girls, the Kearney Hub reported (http://bit.ly/WWuOO1).

The woman already had been sentenced to several decades in prison for similar charges in other counties. In January, she was sentenced in Buffalo County to 80 to 90 years in prison. She garnered an additional 20 years from Furnas County District Court earlier this week.

The Associated Press is not using the woman’s name to protect the identity of the girls. The AP does not usually identify victims of sex crimes.

On Thursday, the woman was sentenced to 40 to 50 years on each of five counts of visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct. She also was sentenced to 25 to 30 years for each of two counts of human trafficking and five years for each of two counts of child abuse. Many of the sentences issued Thursday are to be served at the same time.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2013/02/09/neb_mother_gets_more_time_for_prostituting_girls_2/

[timdog44]

1. The crime here

should also belong to the men who were "customers". I don't think it is difficult to distinguish a 7 and 14 year old from grown women.

[cliffordu]

3. Yep . Precisely.

pedophiles each and every one.

[jbnow]

4. Salon link says 5 men convicted so far (eom)

[timdog44]

6. Good.

I hope they get them all.

[freshwest]

23. +1. The 'human trafficking' charge also good.

[thesquanderer]

5. The men are charged too. Read the article. (n/t)

[timdog44]

7. I went back and read it.

I was just so angry that I posted before reading it.

[840high]

36. Yes.

[RudynJack]

2. Good

I will never understand people like her. Keep her away from normal people.

[RainDog]

8. It's no different than the Catholic Church hierarchy shielding pedophiles

And relocating them to other states and nations where they abused more children.

And yet they received no punishment at all for those actions that were done over more than 40 years.

And they are allowed to tell women what they can and cannot do related to insurance health coverage.

But it's all good because they're a wealthy institution.

[Ms. Toad]

10. Really?

A mother directly offering her children to grown men for sex is no different from the Catholic Church which did not directly offer children it its parish for sex?

I am not defending the Catholic Church, but its actions would be more akin to a parole officer turning a blind eye to a pedophile's activity than to the the mother's role as pimp for her daughters (directly offering her children as prostitutes, and enforcing their activity as prostitutes by asserting economic or physical control over them). Reprehensible, yes, but not the same as the much more direct actions of either the pedophile or the pimp.

[RainDog]

11. The Church DIRECTLY put pedophiles into contact with children

by relocating them to other districts.

This happened. Children in those other districts were abused AFTER the church knew someone was a pedophile.

So, yes, it's the same thing.

[Ms. Toad]

13. The church did not force the children to serve as prostitutes

It did not even exercise direct control over the sexual activity of the priests. It did turn a blind eye and, in many instances, put priests in a position in other districts rather than removing them from their duties or even warning people in the new church of the history. And, as I said, that is reprehensible.

But it is still not the same as forcing your child to serve as a prostitute.

[marble falls]

44. distinction without difference. Its the same.

[Ms. Toad]

46. It really isn't.

The church (as opposed to the individual priest) did not, and does not have the ability to, force the child into sexual activity. The mother did. Direct force is very different than deliberate indifference.

[marble falls]

48. A lot of these priests passed kids from one to another. Its the same. These priests were passed by..

the chirch to other parishes where the behavior was repeated. Its the same. Force is not just strong arm, its also manipulation and intimidation and lies and deceit. Its the same.

[Ms. Toad]

51. You are right about force

But the relationship is different.

The mother had direct control over the children and could assert force in variety of different ways if they did not cooperate with her offer of them for prostitution.

The Catholic Church did not have direct control over the children.

To the extent that priests passed children from one to another, that is a much closer comparison - the nature of an abusive relationship is that there is very similar level of control to that of a parent. So I'll buy that the priests who were passing children around were close enough to the mother's role that it is a distinction without a difference.

But the church, itself, is a step removed, and that is a real difference.

[magical thyme]

49. it is not the same.

Parents are the one or two people in the world on which babies and children are totally dependent for life, and the absolutely closest to you. When you are betrayed by a parent it is far, far worse than ever being betrayed by another member of the immediate family, never mind being betrayed by an outside to the immediate family.

When you cannot trust your mother to protect and care for you, than you cannot trust *anybody* to do so, including yourself.

What the Church did and continues to do is reprehensible. But to the betrayed child, it is not the same as if their own parent pimped them out.

[WinkyDink]

30. Clearly you have no clue as to the expected mother-child bond compared to that of unrelateds.

[decrepittex]

33. not really

It's not really the same thing though both is disgusting. It clearly proves some people should not be permitted to reproduce.

[Skittles]

12. they relocated known pedophiles to other churches

they had to have known what would happen

[Ms. Toad]

26. Had to have known

is different from forcing the activity.

It is like saying that the actions of mother who "had to have known" were the same as the actions of father who raped his daughter.

(Not to mention the very different relationship between a parent and child from the church - parishioner relationship.)

Again - not excusing the actions of the Catholic Church one bit. But they are not the same.

[whathehell]

16. I agree. This is not "the same".

Some people DO seem to be all atroll for certain topics.

[whathehell]

15. Yes, it is...A mother's bond to her children is one of, if not THE closest bond there is.

The Church's actions were terrible, but I doubt ANYTHING compares

to the betrayal of children by either of their parents.

[valerief]

18. The Catholic Church may well be the biggest pedophile ring in the world. nt

[WinkyDink]

31. The BBC and UK govt are running a close second.

[Ian Iam]

43. Based on Saville?

Nonsense!

[WinkyDink]

47. Are you kidding me?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20697738

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/world/europe/savile-inquiry-widens-to-others-at-bbc-reports-say.html?_r=0

http://www.ibtimes.com/bbc-scandal-was-jimmy-savile-part-pedophile-ring-858407

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222878/Jimmy-Savile-scandal-Inside-paedophiles-Glencoe-lair-20-suffered-abuse.html#axzz2KQHOo98d

http://www.heavy.com/news/2012/10/jimmy-savile-pedophile-scandal-now-has-300-victims-potential-enablers/

http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/12/06/max-clifford-website-down-following-arrest-by-uk-police-pedophile-unit/

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49585855/ns/world_news-europe/t/report-uk-police-arrest-pop-star-gary-glitter-savile-child-sex-abuse-case/

[Turbineguy]

9. Just one more reason

for the GOP to gerrymander. They need to compensate for lost voters.

[valerief]

19. The GOP would put the kids in prison--for-profit prison, of course, and let

the pimp mom and johns off scott free.

Cuz that's how the GOP rolls.

[Turbineguy]

29. On reflection....

you are correct of course.

[narnian60]

14. Buh-bye!

Enjoy the rest of your life in jail, you ------- (insert own word here).

[d_r]

17. This is just freaking sick

I think I've heard it all, but no. This is the horrific. Your seven year daughter? Unimaginable.

[chuckstevens]

20. A Special Place in Hell

While I don't know that I really believe in the concept of eternal damnation, if there is such a place this woman belongs there.

[LiberalFighter]

21. The children need to have contact completely removed from all relatives in that family imo

[wtmusic]

22. Wow. Just...wow.

A special hell for her.

[freshwest]

24. Millstone, meet neck.

[shenmue]

25. Please put her under the jail

Eeeeeeeeew.

[Ash_F]

27. Good.

I hope the men receive stiff sentences as well. This is a horrific crime.

[Socal31]

37. Oh, they will, pardon the pun.

I am in no way cheering or accepting what happens to men accused of sex crimes even in County, before they every even see Prison. But it happens, even while in PC.

My friend's friend saw a 19 year old that looked 16 get brutally beaten because his charge sheet said "Annoying a minor" or something along those lines.

[Bucky]

28. I was deeply offended until I figured out what "gets more time" meant

[HooptieWagon]

32. I am a bit confused...

I'm all in favor of the mother rotting in jail for the rest of her life. But it appears these are the same charges brought up in multiple counties. Are they separate incidents, or the same crime prosecuted in multiple locales? I'd hate to see her get out on a technicality...

[davidpdx]

34. I believe they are separate incidents, therefore they are separate charges

The article indicated that some of the charges are being served concurrently, but I would think that would be the charges within each jurisdiction. Usually (but not always) that means when the defendant finishes serving the sentence for one country, they begin serving the charges for the next one. She'll be in state prison given how long she has to serve.

Note: I am not sure how different Nebraska is from other states in their criminal system, the information I have given is based on Oregon's system.

Disclosure: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

[HooptieWagon]

35. Okay, thanks.

I was worried that convictions would be overturned for double jeopardy.

[davidpdx]

40. Well it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she appealed

What grounds she would use and the strategy are beyond my knowledge. I would guess she's not going to have any luck with those given the nature of the crime she committed.

Note: I am not advocating an appeal, just stating realistically what I think will happen

Disclosure: I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.

[marble falls]

45. But you did spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express©.

[davidpdx]

52. LOL

[Disconnect]

38. Where was the children's Gyardian ad Litem and the Family Court Judge??

The GAL and the judge should have had knowledge of these activities, where was their support and protection of these children?/ I have seen cases, such as this, where the children were treated at State facilities for sexual abuse, and placed back in the sexually abusive Mothers home after treatment!! Why are mothers such as tthis protected?? Do they SHARE with the judge and GAL?????

[AllyCat]

39. I have no words to express my disgust.

[Grins]

41. But this is Nebraska...?

...America's "heartland".

[derby378]

42. ...

[slackmaster]

50. Guilty!