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tuvor

(15,663 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:25 PM Jan 2013

Oil discovery in Australia’s outback could ‘transform world’s oil industry’

Source: Calgary Herald

SYDNEY - Up to 233 billion barrels of oil has been discovered in the Australian outback which could be worth trillions of dollars, in a discovery that could turn the region into a new Saudi Arabia.

The discovery in central Australia was reported to the stock exchange by Linc Energy, an energy company and was based on two consultants’ reports, though it is not yet known how commercially viable it will be to access the oil.

The reports estimated that the company’s 16 million acres of land in the Arckaringa Basin in South Australia contain between 133 billion and 233 billion barrels of shale oil trapped in rocks. It is likely that only 3.5 billion barrels, worth almost $359 billion at today’s oil price, could be recovered.

The find was likened to the Bakken and Eagle Ford shale oil projects in the US, which have resulted in massive outflows and led to predictions that the US could overtake Saudi Arabia as the world’s largest oil producer as soon as this year. Peter Bond, Linc Energy’s chief executive, said the find could transform the world’s oil industry, but noted that it would cost about pounds 200million to enable production in the area.

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/discovery+Australia+outback+could+transform+world+industry/7867469/story.html

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Oil discovery in Australia’s outback could ‘transform world’s oil industry’ (Original Post) tuvor Jan 2013 OP
Just leave it alone Politicalboi Jan 2013 #1
Burn it and it will be 50 degrees C in the shade - if there are any trees left. jpak Jan 2013 #2
So this company owns 16 million acres of Australia tabasco Jan 2013 #3
Not really, when you put it into other terms customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #9
You had me until "about the the size of West Virginia" Ash_F Jan 2013 #11
Did I find inaccurate figures? customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #57
No, really. tabasco Jan 2013 #19
1 of 7 actually... snooper2 Jan 2013 #33
Nope, 1 of 6 jberryhill Jan 2013 #34
my daughter has been added to the list but it isn't public info yet.. snooper2 Jan 2013 #41
Our future is assured jberryhill Jan 2013 #43
Wikipedia says NH's capital is Concord. Weird, since Concord is in Massachusetts. tclambert Jan 2013 #49
And Boston is in England. Go figure. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #55
More than twice the size of Anna Creek Station - The Largest ranch in the world Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #56
Regardless of that dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #14
Probably owns the mineral rights. CANDO Jan 2013 #16
The Railroads owned roughly 12% of the United States at the turn of last century Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #35
Most likely just mineral claims jberryhill Jan 2013 #42
Laughing Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #61
3.5 billion from 133-233 billion barrels? Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #4
I'd like to know dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #12
In other words not enough to supply the US for one year. Historic NY Jan 2013 #40
Seems like the folks who have been spouting the "peak oil" meme customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #5
Disappointed that clueless greedheads will further rape the Earth to enrich the 1% Republicons Berlum Jan 2013 #13
Earth? Saturn's moon Titan has oceans of hydrocarbons! tclambert Jan 2013 #51
There are things that need to be done customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #59
Yeah, but "We're running out of it" is the one that sells the best. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #65
Don't worry, peak oil is here. 4dsc Jan 2013 #25
It will have an impact customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #58
Holding up peak oil as fact today is like holding up Vesconte's world map. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #36
"economical" for who? bhikkhu Jan 2013 #44
Peak Oil is empirical - all new data change the date of the peak jpak Jan 2013 #45
so are we are now officially doomed ? limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #6
Shale Oil...Low Quality, Big Bucks to Process and Pollution from it coming to Austrailia? KoKo Jan 2013 #7
Heavy in sulfur too. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #63
When do we invade? Fuddnik Jan 2013 #8
Shale oil? How does that compare to the road tar being mined in Canada? RC Jan 2013 #10
Slightly less evil pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #17
Leave it be! ellisonz Jan 2013 #15
Well .......... bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #18
Here's what life is like in the nearest town KamaAina Jan 2013 #20
Sounds better than Fort McMurray Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2013 #39
If there's a god it's testing us lunatica Jan 2013 #52
Flying spaghetti monster help us. cvoogt Jan 2013 #21
Crap. 50 years from now, we'll be fighting in the Outback, and they got nasty bugs & snakes & such… Journeyman Jan 2013 #22
Just about everything native to Australia will kill you jberryhill Jan 2013 #37
Then it just tortures you for a month Scootaloo Jan 2013 #53
Well, I guess we can shutter the Tar Sands. Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #23
We need oil for many reasons SCVDem Jan 2013 #24
Shale oil? earthside Jan 2013 #26
There goes ninehippies Jan 2013 #27
When do we invade to bring democracy and take away their WMD's? albear Jan 2013 #28
"So tell us again why YOUR oil is under FailureToCommunicate Jan 2013 #29
I drink They_Live Jan 2013 #30
Does this me no Keystone pipeline here...? Grins Jan 2013 #31
They found Oil down under? Fairdinkum? AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #32
May I have your attention, please jberryhill Jan 2013 #38
Australia has been hitting temperatures near 50 degrees celcius daleo Jan 2013 #46
Wouldn't they do better going wholly solar? aquart Jan 2013 #47
Australia has been having grid problems because solar is being added too quickly for it to keep up Fumesucker Jan 2013 #54
WE DON'T NEED IT! defacto7 Jan 2013 #48
If ambient heat generates energy that can be captured and used they already have a goldmine lunatica Jan 2013 #50
This is crap oil, the bottom of the barrell CanonRay Jan 2013 #60
Oh yay :( ...it will certainly transform our atmosphere. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #62
Problem is, Australia is gonna do what they want. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #64
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. Just leave it alone
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jan 2013

Go GREEN Australia. The last thing we all need is access to more oil. We need to find other ways that are clean.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. Not really, when you put it into other terms
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jan 2013

16 million acres is 25000 square miles, or a square about 160 miles by 160 miles. Being as the bulk of the continent is about 2000 miles by 2000 miles, much of it interior desert, it's not really a major proportion of the place. Austrailia is nearly 3 million square miles in area, this amount of this holding represents less than one percent of it.

Australia and the continental US are about the same size in square miles, this holding is about the size of West Virginia. Or, a bit bigger than a quarter of Wyoming, if you really want something more comparable.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
19. No, really.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jan 2013

Do you think you're the only person in the world that knows the size of Australia and the size of a fucking acre. LOL.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. Nope, 1 of 6
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jan 2013

That guy Jim died last year. Pretty amazing that three of us are apparently in this thread though, ay mate?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
43. Our future is assured
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jan 2013

We are better off than the two remaining people who know the capital of New Hampshire.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
49. Wikipedia says NH's capital is Concord. Weird, since Concord is in Massachusetts.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:43 AM
Jan 2013

Is it legal to have your state capital in another state? I'd like to nominate Honolulu for my state's capital.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
56. More than twice the size of Anna Creek Station - The Largest ranch in the world
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:09 AM
Jan 2013

And twenty times the size of King Ranch.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. Regardless of that
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:05 PM
Jan 2013

ownership doesn't give them the mineral rights which belong to the Australian government. It just prevents others from extracting the resourses.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
35. The Railroads owned roughly 12% of the United States at the turn of last century
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:18 AM
Jan 2013

The Hudson Bay Company owned three million square miles of the British Empire.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
42. Most likely just mineral claims
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:30 AM
Jan 2013

But I am surprised at the lack of skepticism here of a "report to the stock market... based on two consultants' reports".

I was born on a Weenesday, but not last Wednesday.
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
4. 3.5 billion from 133-233 billion barrels?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

That is a lot of garbage.

Not sure calling it "oil" is even correct.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
40. In other words not enough to supply the US for one year.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jan 2013

The US used 6.87 billion barrels (18.83 million barrels per day) in 2011 of refined product.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. Seems like the folks who have been spouting the "peak oil" meme
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jan 2013

are going to be disappointed. But, I knew they would be, the scarcer something gets the higher the price goes, and that just makes the stuff that's harder to get more economical to extract.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
13. Disappointed that clueless greedheads will further rape the Earth to enrich the 1% Republicons
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:04 PM
Jan 2013

(Republicons Global Style)...and further massively despoil and destabilize the planet. Yup.

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
51. Earth? Saturn's moon Titan has oceans of hydrocarbons!
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:49 AM
Jan 2013

Super tanker spaceships coming soon to supply the SUVs of Earth.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
59. There are things that need to be done
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jan 2013

One does not have to fantasize about the supposed end of a resource to be in favor of them. There are many, many more reasons to move away from a hydrocarbon-based economy than "we're running out of it".

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
65. Yeah, but "We're running out of it" is the one that sells the best.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jan 2013

Blockheaded GW deniers & the like want their SUVs, and be damned to anyone who wants to take away their toys.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
25. Don't worry, peak oil is here.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:23 PM
Jan 2013

This won't put a dent into the world decline rate for oil production in the coming decades.


customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
58. It will have an impact
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:18 AM
Jan 2013

on the speculators. They bid things up on the illusion of scarcity. Their lessened ability to do this means we will have more of a true market price for oil, rather than a bubble price, like we did a few years ago.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
36. Holding up peak oil as fact today is like holding up Vesconte's world map.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:20 AM
Jan 2013

Within the confines of what was known at the time, it makes sense. But we have learned a little in the intervening years,

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
44. "economical" for who?
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:42 AM
Jan 2013

If there is no limit to the costs and efforts you can afford to spend, then "peak oil" can be pushed out quite a ways...but at some point, even if money is no object, the net energy you get for your efforts approaches zero.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Shale Oil...Low Quality, Big Bucks to Process and Pollution from it coming to Austrailia?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

This is hardly light sweet crude oil or even stuff from our Gulf.

It requires lots of "Processing" and could be more enviro damage than the deep oil wells that are now causing havoc.

Sigh.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. Here's what life is like in the nearest town
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jan 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coober_Pedy#Overview

The harsh summer desert temperatures mean that many residents prefer to live in caves bored into the hillsides ("dugouts&quot ....

The first tree ever seen in the town was welded together from scrap iron. It still sits on a hilltop overlooking the town.

The local golf course – mostly played at night with glowing balls, to avoid daytime temperatures – is completely free of grass, and golfers take a small piece of "turf" around to use for teeing off....


An unlikely oil boomtown indeed.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
52. If there's a god it's testing us
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:52 AM
Jan 2013

What are ya gonna do humans?

Or it there's a devil is it getting ready to reap some of it's biggest catch yet?

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
22. Crap. 50 years from now, we'll be fighting in the Outback, and they got nasty bugs & snakes & such…
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jan 2013

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
23. Well, I guess we can shutter the Tar Sands.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jan 2013

No need for pipelines either. China and India will now have a new crack dealer.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
26. Shale oil?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:27 PM
Jan 2013

'Tight' oil.

That means fracking and all kinds of fancy, high tech, expensive means of extraction are necessary.

And that means it is probably not even commercially viable unless the price of petroleum stays around a $100+ per barrel.

Nothing to get excited about here.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
31. Does this me no Keystone pipeline here...?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:51 PM
Jan 2013

Then Aussies can now supply China, a market Canada was originally looking for. So...?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
38. May I have your attention, please
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:24 AM
Jan 2013

To these words:

"reported to the stock exchange by Linc Energy, an energy company and was based on two consultants’ reports"

There is another thing in Australia which has never been in short supply and if "reported to the stock market... based on two consultants' reports" doesn't set off your meter, then may I suggest you hold off on your other business plans there.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
46. Australia has been hitting temperatures near 50 degrees celcius
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:11 AM
Jan 2013

It would be like a person committing suicide for a billion dollars. What's the point if you're dead?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
54. Australia has been having grid problems because solar is being added too quickly for it to keep up
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:57 AM
Jan 2013

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
48. WE DON'T NEED IT!
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:01 AM
Jan 2013

(I think that's the first time I've used all caps in a sentence.) Tax it to hell and back. The price should be too high to be convenient. Keep your damn oil Australia.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. If ambient heat generates energy that can be captured and used they already have a goldmine
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jan 2013

in central Australia. But of course, maybe the world needs to get warmer.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
60. This is crap oil, the bottom of the barrell
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:38 AM
Jan 2013

Notice that less than 5% is even recoverable? How much energy, and clean water (in the desert outback) will be required to get this oil out? Transform the oil industry, what nonsense.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
64. Problem is, Australia is gonna do what they want.
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:07 AM
Jan 2013

I don't think they're gonna listen to us. If it helps their country then their politicians and companies will probably go for it.

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