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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:50 AM Jan 2013

House GOP To Supreme Court: Gay People Are Too Powerful To Get Equal Rights

Source: Think Progress

For nearly two years, House Republicans paid conservative superlawyer Paul Clement $520 an hour to defend the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act in federal court — and then sent the bill to the American taxpayer. In total Clement has now cost the American people up to $3 million for his efforts on behalf of this unconstitutional law. Last night, we taxpayers finally found out what we were paying for — a 60 page brief explaining why the justices should leave marriage discrimination untouched.

As decades of precedent establish that the Constitution should provide a shield to minority groups when prejudice leaves them without adequate recourse to the political process, Clement includes a section discussing just how very powerful and completely capable of vindicating their rights at the ballot box gay men and lesbians have become. Same-sex marriage is supported by President Obama and Vice President Biden! Less than half of Congress filed a brief agreeing with them! A magazine once wrote an article about how influential the Human Rights Campaign is! For the first time in history, an entire 1 percent of the Senate is openly gay!

After touting the immense political clout of a group that, after 226 years of American democracy, finally managed to elect a single person to the upper house of Congress, Clement then drops this line:

In short, gays and lesbians are one of the most influential, best-connected, best-funded, and best organized interest groups in modern politics, and have attained more legislative victories, political power, and popular favor in less time than virtually any other group in American history. . . . Gays and lesbians not only have the attention of lawmakers, they are winning many legislative battles. And the importance of this factor in the analysis cannot be gainsaid. . . . [G]iven that the ultimate inquiry focuses on whether a group needs the special intervention of the courts or whether issues should be left for the democratic process, the political strength of gays and lesbians in the political process should be outcome determinative here.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/23/1483131/house-republicans-to-scotus-gay-people-are-too-powerful-to-give-them-equal-rights/



I wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans feel about being used as a prop to defend DOMA?
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House GOP To Supreme Court: Gay People Are Too Powerful To Get Equal Rights (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2013 OP
So disallowing someone their rights for Smilo Jan 2013 #1
If This is The strength of Their Argument I Smell Victory for Our Side Indykatie Jan 2013 #2
That last paragraph is nothing more than bullshit! William769 Jan 2013 #3
this one? leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #16
No. William769 Jan 2013 #18
Marriage shouldn't be "left for the democratic process" Beartracks Jan 2013 #4
Thanks for the post. Now waiting for the Court to move. AnotherDreamWeaver Jan 2013 #5
Why does the GOP resent success? BainsBane Jan 2013 #6
Because they're the ones losing - n/t primavera Jan 2013 #19
GOP = fearmongering olddad56 Jan 2013 #7
The GOP, olddad56 Jan 2013 #8
Oh for fucks sake... Fearless Jan 2013 #9
How's it feel to be as big as Big Oil? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #10
So... Lordquinton Jan 2013 #12
Let's tap our feet with a wide stance and find out. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #13
What the fuck does that even mean? SoapBox Jan 2013 #11
How low can the GOP go? liberal N proud Jan 2013 #14
I can't find the part about Log Cabin in the article. I see no mention. What did they do? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #15
Will Mr. Clement lose another case? blueclown Jan 2013 #17
The NRA stands and gapes in awe ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #20
LOL Exactly davidpdx Jan 2013 #30
If they want the focus on the LGBT community to go away, let them marry. bamacrat Jan 2013 #21
Just because someone says 2 + 2 = 5, I don't have to believe their malarkey blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #22
dem goddam homersectionals! Ian Iam Jan 2013 #23
So his line is "the gay conspiracy" Ash_F Jan 2013 #24
What the hell are they smoking??? Initech Jan 2013 #25
Wingnut Welfare Case #5534 bongbong Jan 2013 #26
Thanks for your Post! goclark Jan 2013 #27
Playing the victim card now, eh? randome Jan 2013 #28
Sound like desperation to me Politicub Jan 2013 #29
Please leave us alone! NICO9000 Jan 2013 #31

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
1. So disallowing someone their rights for
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:09 AM
Jan 2013

equal treatment cost taxpayers $3 million. I don't know where to laugh at the absurdity, or cry at the lack of humanity coming from the right.

As for the Log Cabin Republicans - these idjits make no sense, how can they not support gay rights and marriage equality?

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
2. If This is The strength of Their Argument I Smell Victory for Our Side
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:13 AM
Jan 2013

It was simply masterful that PBO spoke so passionately on the issue of full equality for our GLBT community in front of the very Justices that will review the cases. Not that it swayed Thomas or Scalia but I think there is real hope for Roberts to be on the right side of an historical decision yet again.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
4. Marriage shouldn't be "left for the democratic process"
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:24 AM
Jan 2013

Clement basically says since the Powerful Gays (c) are winning legislative battle after legislative battle, then there should be no problem for them to win the right to marry AT THE BALLOT BOX. AFAIK, if the LGBT community is seeking the RIGHT to marry, they're wanting that right enshrined in the law of the land, rather than be just the result of some local referendum along with sales taxes and bond issues. 'Cause if your neighbors vote to grant you a "right" then they might someday vote to take it away, too.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. What the fuck does that even mean?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:09 AM
Jan 2013

Seriously.

What a stupid fucking argument.

Hey Boner...you're TOO ORANGE...better outlaw tanning beds. Or some other kind of bullshit like that.

...what a dick he is.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. I can't find the part about Log Cabin in the article. I see no mention. What did they do?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:52 AM
Jan 2013

The article mentions many nasty Republicans, I could not find the part about Log Cabin and that is of interest to me.

blueclown

(1,869 posts)
17. Will Mr. Clement lose another case?
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jan 2013

He lost the individual mandate part of the Affordable Care Act challenge, he lost in the Arizona v. United States "show me your papers" defense and he may in fact lose this case too.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
20. The NRA stands and gapes in awe ...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

... as does Big Oil, Big Pharma, and the MIC.

The gay interest group, with its sneer of cold command, just says, "Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

er, wait ...






(some words ripped-off from "Ozymandias", Percy Bysshe Shelley)

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
21. If they want the focus on the LGBT community to go away, let them marry.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jan 2013

Give them all the rights they deserve then it won't be an issue. Well the right will always bring it up ala abortion, but it will be a non issue.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
26. Wingnut Welfare Case #5534
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jan 2013

More giveaways to rich repigs (in this case, the lawyer), courtesy of the taxpayer.

As always, the only thing that repigs are good at is hypocrisy - and they are EXTREMELY good at it.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
27. Thanks for your Post!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jan 2013

" For nearly two years, House Republicans paid conservative super

lawyer Paul Clement $520 an hour to defend the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act in federal court — and then sent the bill to the American taxpayer. In total Clement has now cost the American people up to $3 million for his efforts on behalf of this unconstitutional law. Last night, we taxpayers finally found out what we were paying for — a 60 page brief explaining why the justices should leave marriage discrimination untouched."

As my father would say, " There is a Special Place in Hell for these Republicans!



Politicub

(12,165 posts)
29. Sound like desperation to me
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:04 AM
Jan 2013

Talk about being behind the times!

We're part of the Obama coalition. And it feels good.

NICO9000

(970 posts)
31. Please leave us alone!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

And I say that as a married straight male with lots of gay and lesbian friends and relatives. My sister got to marry her partner right before the heinous Prop H8 passed here in CA and they now have a beautiful baby girl.

One thing these haters need to realize is that gays and lesbians generally have the same lives as their straight counterparts i.e. working, raising kids, trying their best to enjoy their lives, etc. This homophobic crap just shows how immature these idiots are. Gays are here to stay, kids! Woo-hoo!

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