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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:20 AM Jan 2013

House Democrats Revive Health Care Public Option To Reduce Deficit

Source: Talking Points Memo

The public option is back … sort of.

House Democrats on Tuesday introduced the “Public Option Deficit Reduction Act,” which would provide consumers the choice to opt into a government-run health insurance plan in the Obamacare exchanges.

The bill, which almost certainly cannot pass in the Republican-controlled House, is a mostly symbolic effort meant to keep the public option alive as a policy prescription. It is sponsored by Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), who is on the Energy & Commerce health subcommittee, along with Energy & Commerce Ranking Member Henry Waxman (D-CA) and 43 other lawmakers.

“The Public Option Deficit Reduction Act will give health care consumers more choice and lower their premiums,” said Schakowsky. “And, by providing a lower-cost alternative to private insurance, it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete.”

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/democrats-revive-public-option.php



YES!!!!
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House Democrats Revive Health Care Public Option To Reduce Deficit (Original Post) antigop Jan 2013 OP
Thank you!!!! djean111 Jan 2013 #1
The Public Option is on its way! BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #32
Sign me up... peace frog Jan 2013 #42
Yes, the liar/denier caucus must be force fed truth & logic on a daily basis... BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #2
2014 is going to be a very progressive year. tridim Jan 2013 #3
amen to that!! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #8
YES!!!! freshwest Jan 2013 #23
I second that: please, oh please! mountain grammy Jan 2013 #24
They might maintain control sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #43
If only it could be so gristy Jan 2013 #47
You can't tile a lot of states with "regular polygons" jberryhill Jan 2013 #51
States not joining in the Medicaid Exchange by refusing to accept the ACA, could be the birth of DhhD Jan 2013 #4
So has Scott Walker in Wisconsin. Greybnk48 Jan 2013 #5
And New Jersey... Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #61
IMO, we need to pass a law that states (since obviously for profit insurance remains) dotymed Jan 2013 #6
Yay!!!! nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #7
I love it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #9
Who are these heroes? duhneece Jan 2013 #10
What's the point? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #11
Make the R's block it and be seen as the defenders of the insurance companies. Scuba Jan 2013 #13
Maybe WE should rise to the defense of insurance companies ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #15
Same point as all those Obamacare repeal bills by the Republicans. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #52
Exactly right. Pointless harrumphing. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #60
Make the R's block it and defend the insurance companies. Use that in 2014. Spine, baby, spine. Scuba Jan 2013 #12
PODRA yesphan Jan 2013 #14
Wonderful News! nt. Hutzpa Jan 2013 #16
Make it so Berlum Jan 2013 #17
In the meantime.. funding for "non-profit" insurance companies was stripped annabanana Jan 2013 #18
Boehner wants some debt reduction to cooperate on the debt ceiling thesquanderer Jan 2013 #19
Good idea. nt antigop Jan 2013 #21
Obama is not for single payor lark Jan 2013 #31
BITE! it, Republicans! You call it free-market COMPETITION. We call it Justice! patrice Jan 2013 #20
We NEED this. My whole family has 'affordable' employer-sponsored care we can't afford to use. joanbarnes Jan 2013 #22
Over 2 years ago, Senator Sanders said on the Thom Hartmann show that this is a possibility. nt patrice Jan 2013 #25
Calling the bully pulpit Doctor_J Jan 2013 #26
Maybe the Democrats should vite 33 times and offer bill for Congress members Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #27
I love this! Even tho' it's only symbolic... truth2power Jan 2013 #28
Great! Keep it up! MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #29
I am happy to see them keep fighting for this. They should never give this fight up. harun Jan 2013 #30
kick nt antigop Jan 2013 #33
Kick! Kick! Kick! go west young man Jan 2013 #34
I changed my mind SAY Jan 2013 #35
Why wouldn't you have to work for health care? djean111 Jan 2013 #36
You changed your WHAT?! mac56 Jan 2013 #39
Very strange post. What does Pres Obama have to do with the OP? nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #45
Rofl. You joined to post that? Politicub Jan 2013 #53
Awesome It has to be done lovuian Jan 2013 #37
Awesome! kenfrequed Jan 2013 #38
Best news I've seen all day! HuckleB Jan 2013 #40
It's the most humane thing to do, and it gives us the best return for our money. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #41
If we could message it correctly and get the public clamoring for it... gateley Jan 2013 #44
Jan Schakowsky's right ... surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #46
K&R!! silverweb Jan 2013 #48
If only, but the insurance industry will find a way to make it Cleita Jan 2013 #49
gotta keep hope alive, Cleita! nt antigop Jan 2013 #50
This will come one day Politicub Jan 2013 #54
C'mon prez....! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #55
Woooooodamnwhoooooooooooo! lonestarnot Jan 2013 #56
An outbreak of sanity?? snot Jan 2013 #57
name game greymattermom Jan 2013 #58
Hallelujah!!!!! ReRe Jan 2013 #59
If only my friend Paul were here to see this AlbertCat Jan 2013 #62
so sorry, AlbertCat. These types of stories infuriate me. We can do much better as a country. nt antigop Jan 2013 #63
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Thank you!!!!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jan 2013

I was afraid there was going to be complacency about this sort of thing - but I want to see unrelenting pressure to make single payer be the logical outcome of the ACA because, as it stands, care ain't affordable, no matter if the government is picking up the tab or not.
Just because Obama doesn't have the ability to propose single payer (or so I have been told) that doesn't mean we should all sit quietly and praise the half a pony we got.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. The Public Option is on its way!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jan 2013

For the DUers who haven't seen my many posts here regarding the public option that was buried within ObamaCare, here is an October 2012 NYT's article that reported that the Obama Admin has been quietly working at putting together two U.S. supported health care insurances three months before the election. Of course, had President Obama not won, this would have been moot.

But he has won, and thus we'll be getting a (according to the Heritage Foundation) "robust public option that liberals always wanted."

BlueNoteSpecial

(141 posts)
2. Yes, the liar/denier caucus must be force fed truth & logic on a daily basis...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jan 2013

...We keep hammering, while they keep stammering, showing their true colors, outing themselves day, after day, after day. So, repukes, how do YOU like it, hmmmmm...?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
3. 2014 is going to be a very progressive year.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jan 2013

It just sucks we have to wait until the residual teafuckers get thrown out.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
43. They might maintain control
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jan 2013

until the next census. Before then it would be wise to have a law in place that reduces gerrymandering by requiring Congressional districts to be in the shapes of regular polygons.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. You can't tile a lot of states with "regular polygons"
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jan 2013

I dunno if you are from Colorado or some such, but I would be happy if Justice O'Connor had better a better topological vocabulary than "reasonably compact".

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
4. States not joining in the Medicaid Exchange by refusing to accept the ACA, could be the birth of
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jan 2013

the Single Payer American health care system.

Texas governor has refused to set up Obamacare. Perhaps the birthplace of the single payer
system, instead of federal copay money to insurance companies, could be in Texas.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
6. IMO, we need to pass a law that states (since obviously for profit insurance remains)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jan 2013

when these insurers get a large increase in the pool of people they are insuring, they must lower premiums to reflect this increase.
The law about spending a certain percentage on actual medical care (for the insurers) doesn't address the continued gouging of Americans paying increasingly large premiums. These health insurance companies according to current law, are obligated to maximize profits for their share holders...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. I love it ...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

So all those States that refused to set up/operate their exchanges would, if this measure passes, get the P/O!

I wonder ... why would legislation be necessary? Yes, it would require all states to offer it; but wouldn't the better approach be to include the P/O in the exchanges that the Federal Government sets up and runs? It could be done through the regulatory/administrative powers, already vested in the federal executive branch.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,369 posts)
11. What's the point?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jan 2013

This will never get out of committee, never see a vote. Is this a waste of time?

Or does it serve some purpose in the theater of politics?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
13. Make the R's block it and be seen as the defenders of the insurance companies.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:48 AM
Jan 2013

It will resonate with the public in 2014.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,369 posts)
15. Maybe WE should rise to the defense of insurance companies ...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jan 2013

... and let the Republicans force us into Single Payer.

If only that could work ...

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. Make the R's block it and defend the insurance companies. Use that in 2014. Spine, baby, spine.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:47 AM
Jan 2013

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
17. Make it so
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013

Republicans will remain BOUGHT AND SOLD on this by the freaking profit-making institutions which are a leech upon the nation, and we can expect Republicans to keep on LICKING MONEYBUCKS BOOT. As usual.

But there are enough decent people to make sure this common-sense, good-government, good health care, and economically prudent step is taken.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
18. In the meantime.. funding for "non-profit" insurance companies was stripped
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jan 2013

in the fiscal cliff negotiations.

Talk about your one-step forward two-steps back..

thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
19. Boehner wants some debt reduction to cooperate on the debt ceiling
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jan 2013

This should be Obama's offer!

"Citing an earlier estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Schakowsky expects it to reduce the deficit by some $100 billion over 10 years"

lark

(23,158 posts)
31. Obama is not for single payor
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jan 2013

He removed it from even being discussed. I do believe he would sign a law with this in it, he just will not fight for it for one second.

joanbarnes

(1,723 posts)
22. We NEED this. My whole family has 'affordable' employer-sponsored care we can't afford to use.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jan 2013

Never mind figuring out all the rules.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
26. Calling the bully pulpit
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jan 2013

Mr. President, time to jump on the bandwagon. Let this be your legacy instead of drones & pot crackdown.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. Maybe the Democrats should vite 33 times and offer bill for Congress members
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jan 2013

To be on the same plan they voted for us, or better yet het them used to Medicare.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
28. I love this! Even tho' it's only symbolic...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jan 2013

A for-profit corporation shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a healthcare system.

 

SAY

(11 posts)
35. I changed my mind
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jan 2013

I have changed my mind I can retire early not having to work for health care thank you obama

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
36. Why wouldn't you have to work for health care?
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jan 2013

Even Medicare and Medicaid (single-payer) have a premium.
Or were you being deliberately obtuse?
And are you comfy with a death panel consisting of private insurers and employers?
What did you change your mind about?

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
37. Awesome It has to be done
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jan 2013

It is obvious all over the world Universal coverage is the way to bring down costs

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
38. Awesome!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jan 2013

Ok, I know it isn't like to get traction but we have to keep putting this back on the table! As often as it takes!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
41. It's the most humane thing to do, and it gives us the best return for our money.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:00 PM
Jan 2013

It strengthens our nation, and frees our citizens to pursue business, research, art, education with much less of a barrier than before. The gains to us, the ROI as it were, are overwhelming.

A nation which pays private individuals to profit from the health care of its citizens will always and forever be weaker than one who funds it as a needed public investment.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
49. If only, but the insurance industry will find a way to make it
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jan 2013

seem like a crackpot idea. I don't feel our Democrats are being entirely honest either. I think they are just using it as a pawn and know it doesn't have a chance in Hell.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
58. name game
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:25 AM
Jan 2013

You have to love the name of this bill. Finally, democrats are getting the sound bite right. Republicans will have to vote against deficit reduction if they vote against it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
59. Hallelujah!!!!!
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:45 AM
Jan 2013

Yeah, it won't pass, but it will keep some common sense in the air. Frankly, if the Republicans hang themselves in the next couple years and get there arrses kicked out of Congress, and we are at the helm once again in 2014, I say go all the way. Medicare for all. Period. Boy, wouldn't that burn the powers that be! I'm doing the Snoopy Dance just thinking about it. Cheers to Schakowsky and Waxman!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
62. If only my friend Paul were here to see this
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:39 AM
Jan 2013

He died on the 3rd of pneumonia and congestive heart failure. He was feeling bad for days. He waited to go to the hospital because he couldn't afford insurance.

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