Boy Found Responsible For Murdering Father
Source: Associated Press
RIVERSIDE, Calif. (AP) A California judge has found a boy was responsible for the second-degree murder of his white supremacist father when the defendant was just 10.
Riverside Superior Court Judge Jean Leonard made the ruling Monday in the case of the boy, who is now 12.
Prosecutors argued the boy knew what he was doing when he shot 32-year-old Jeff Hall a regional leader of the National Socialist Movement and the slaying was premeditated.
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Let us not forget this boy. It behooves a sane, just and tolerant multi-cultural society to get him all of the follow-up counseling, age-appropriate schooling and on-going mental health support he deserves.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Where he can go from scared kid to hardened criminal?
This kid needs help. Not incarceration.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)"Defense attorney Matthew Hardy said his client grew up in an abusive and violent environment and learned it was acceptable to kill people who were a threat. Hardy contended the boy thought if he shot his dad, the violence would end."
closeupready
(29,503 posts)What minor child of 10 plots to kill his father? And how is this verdict going to prevent other 10-year-old's from plotting to kill their fathers?
I mean, the absurdity of it all is self-evident, IMO.
He needs therapy and rehabilitation - a now 12-year-old boy could grow up and be a contributing member of society in some way, if he gets help now.
PDJane
(10,103 posts)This child needs a great deal of assistance, care, and love....not more violence.
marble falls
(57,240 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)My uncle got a Silver Star for doing that in WWII.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The judge indicated, however, that she would consider alternative placements, such as a secure facility run by the Riverside County Department of Probation in Indio. The boys attorney, public defender Matthew Hardy, said it would be a tragedy if his client was sent to one of the state facilities.
PDJane
(10,103 posts)This child needs a safe environment, with a great deal of affection and someone who is willing to show him the better side of life. He used the solution that he had been taught.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)The child is unfortunately what his father made of him.
Expelled from 8 schools? Have you any idea just how badly a kid has to act up in order to get expelled from just 1?
There is something fundamentally broken about this kid, and it would not surprise me to learn of him killing or seriously wounding another whilst inside.
This child is as much the product of unfettered free speech as 20 dead kids in Sandy Hook are the product of unfettered gun freedoms.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)That is exceedingly violent for a pre-adolescent kid. This boy has serious problems and needs a lot of help.
Yes, he's young and he can change, but he definitely is dangerous, and it won't help anyone, much less the boy, to have him in anything less than a very controlled environment.
maindawg
(1,151 posts)but what do you do with a 12 year old psychopath? I would start with outward bound. He would need a qualified guardian. Kids need discipline, they need rules and they need stability. They need opportunity. They need to feel safe. My solution is , safe houses. Farms , group homes , halfway houses.There are many old schools in Ohio. We have built new Schools.Some old Schools could be turned into school / dorms. No fences. Just a campus.
It does not have to be run by the govt. Bid it out. award the contracts to faith based organizations. Award them to anyone who will step up. I work with these kids. there are no bad kids. There are one hell of alot of scared kids.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)elleng
(131,129 posts)Anna Salter, a clinical psychologist from Wisconsin who appeared for the prosecution, testified that the boy's mental function and grasp of reality probably was warped while he was in the womb, when his mother used heroin, LSD and methamphetamine. The boy's parents divorced shortly after he was born and Hall was awarded full custody of his son when the boy was 3.
The first signs of the boy's penchant for violence surfaced at an early age. When he was a toddler, his grandmother refused to baby-sit him because of his outbursts, and he later was expelled from eight schools for violent behavior, including an attempt to strangle a teacher with a phone cord, according to evidence presented at the trial.
The boy's grasp of the world was corrupted even more after his father, an unemployed plumber, joined the neo-Nazi movement in 2009, bringing him along on at least one outing with a hooded member of the Ku Klux Klan and letting him tag along with "patrols" along the Mexican border to search for illegal immigrants, Leonard said.
The youngster's father, Jeffrey Hall, was a West Coast leader for the neo-Nazi organization known as the National Socialist Movement. The judge said Hall's attempts to indoctrinate his son into the hate group corrupted the thought process of a boy who already was disturbed and displaying violent tendencies.
The boy's attorney said during the trial that Hall, when drunk or high, routinely beat his son. Shortly before he was killed, Hall also threatened to leave the family and to set the house on fire with his children and second wife inside.
The boy probably thought he was protecting his family when he fired that revolver, Hardy said.
"He didn't think it was wrong; he thought it was justified," Hardy said after Monday's hearing. "He thought he had to do it."
Hardy plans to appeal Monday's ruling, saying he believes Leonard erred when she found that the boy had the mental capacity to know shooting his father was wrong. Hardy said the boy made conflicting statements to police after the shooting, at one point saying he believed his father would "wake up" and rejoin the family.