Ex-film star Bardot may seek Russian nationality
Source: Reuters
Former French screen goddess Brigitte Bardot on Friday threatened to follow Gerard Depardieu in asking for a Russian passport, in protest not at tax hikes, but at the treatment of two circus elephants.
The animals, named Baby and Nepal and owned by a touring circus, are thought to be carrying tuberculosis and were ordered to be put down by a court in Lyon, southern France, on Friday as a precautionary measure.
Bardot's threat comes a day after fellow actor Depardieu caused a storm in France by becoming a Russian citizen in protest at high tax rates proposed by the Socialist government, which he accuses of penalizing success.
"If those in power are cowardly and impudent enough to kill the elephants... then I have decided I will ask for Russian nationality to get out of this country which has become nothing more than an animal cemetery," Bardot said in a statement.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/04/entertainment-us-bardot-elephants-idUSBRE9030I720130104
samsingh
(17,600 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)Russians are better in the way they treat animals?
MADem
(135,425 posts)I don't think they have strong laws against animal cruelty, in any event.
EC
(12,287 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...now, she's complaining about taxes?
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)NICO9000
(970 posts)She was a big supporter of the racist politician Jean Marie Pen in the 90s. She also keeps getting cited for anti-Muslim speech.
A beautiful woman once; now just a crazy old racist!
she is a jerk, IMHO
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)"We all get old in the end." I am on her side. I am old and and an animal lover. I am also not so fond of humans.
MADem
(135,425 posts)struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)Last Updated: Thursday, 10 June, 2004, 14:30 GMT 15:30 UK
French film legend Brigitte Bardot has been fined 5,000 euros (£3,301) for inciting racial hatred in a book.
The charges against Bardot, 69, related to her best-seller, A Cry In The Silence, in which she said she "opposed the Islamisation of France" ...
In her book she wrote about issues such as racial mixing, immigration, the role of women in politics and Islam.
The book also contained a section attacking what she called the mixing of genes and praised previous generations who, she said, had given their lives to push out invaders ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3794513.stm
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)My bad... I thought she was human.
Pauldg47
(640 posts)...why doesn't she be an advocate and stop that?
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)I don't know why anybody thinks there is anything admirable about this bigoted misanthrope.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)75% tax is confiscatory
Anything over 50% is confiscatory and will result in capital flight.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I'm sure they'd welcome you and your money with open arms.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)There are better ways than that ...
mostlyconfused
(211 posts)Anything under 50% will have almost zero impact on reducing the deficit. A raise in the top marginal rate from 35% to 39% takes care of about 2% of the annual deficit. Raising that top rate to 100% would not address the deficit.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)if
a) you want to pay the deficit solely from taxes in the current dynamics and
b) if you don't see the benefit of some reduction in the deficit which frees up capital for businesses to expand and thus increases the tax base. This is what happened during the Clinton years.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)From the 1960s to Reagan it was 70%.
Please note this is the TOP RATE, what less then 1 % of the population pays.
On top of that the this is the TOP RATE on a GRADUATED INCOME TAX. In an Graduated Income Tax, different rates kick in as your income increase, but the increase is NOT on total Income but what ever is the rate set for that higher income bracket. Thus, this 75% may be for income over $100,000 (I do NOT know how France breaks up its Rate, I am using $100,000 as an example). Thus if your income is less then $100,000, you are taxed at the lower rate (For this example I using two rates 25% and 75%, again I do NOT know the exact tax rates in France, I am trying to explain what a graduated Income tax works).
Given my example, anyone making less then $100,000 has to pay $25,000 in income taxes. If someone makes $200,000, that person pays 25% on the FIRST $100,000 (i.e. $25,000) and then 75% tax on the second $100,000 of the $200,000 earned (Or $75,000, which when added to the $25,000 taxes due on the First $100,000 comes to $100,000).
Thus for a person making $200,000 a year, a 75% top rate is an effective tax rate of just 50% ($25,000 plus $75,000 is $100,000, which is 50% of $200,000).
Now, before you cry about people making more then $200,000, lets understand most people making that much money per year, the income is NOT from wages but from investments (Capital Gains). Prior to Reagan, when the US Tax rate was 70%, Capital Gains were classified as "Long Term" an investment made more then Five year before, or "Short Term" for income from investments made less then five years before. Short term Capital Gains were treated as if it was ordinary income, Long Term Capital Gain were subject to a 50% disregard, i.e If from investments you made 1 Million Dollars, but it due to an investment made more then five years before, when you cashed in the investment, you only had to pay taxes on 50% of the Million or $500,000. Given the numbers I used above, the first $100,000 is liable for $25,000 in taxes, and the remaining $400,000 is liable to the 75% tax or $300,000, for a total tax of $325,000 on a One Million Dollar gain.
I Suspect this is what the French had adopted, a top rate of 75% subject to a Capital Gain set off (probably 50% but I do NOT know). The advantage of such a system is it punish stock brokers and speculators, since they do NOT hold investments for Five years or longer, they gains, if they exceed the top tax rate, are taxable at the 75% rate. On the other hand, long term investors, if they income exceeds the top tax rate, pays 75% on only 50% of their income (Or 37.5%).
Just note, the US BOOMED when it had a 90% top tax rate, subject to the 50% disregard. Such a tax systems takes most of its money from speculators, while providing long term investors a solid gain after taxes.
When I was in what I call "Accounting U" or Robert Morris Collage (now Robert Morris University, but its name in 1900 was the Pittsburgh School of Accounting and when I was in still graduated more then 90% accounting majors) we talked about Reagan's change and Reagan's decision to drop Long Term Capital Gain. To be honest we failed to see how that drop would encourage speculators to manipulate the Market (THe Congress of the 1930s did UNDERSTAND that problem and came up with this excellent solution to end most short term speculation, let the Government get most of the money from Speculation, while making sure investors get most of their gain from their investments).
Since Reagan Long Term Capital Gain has come back, but to reduce the already low level of taxation on investors including speculators. I see this move to a 75% top tax rate as a return to the system that worked from WWII till Reagan, it basically confiscated gains do to speculation, while rewarding investment. It is a system we need to return to, and I see France is leading the way.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)If 75% is taxed on all income above a certain threshold but a lower rate below that limit is not a problem.
I believe what France was trying to do was tax the entire income at 75% just because someone made a lot of money.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)its only a marginal rate. At issue is that it should have been applied to "households" : not individuals as was expressed by mistake.
For clarity thats with reference to current issues in France.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)The present tax rate for a single person is as follows (The tax rate in France is based on household not individuals. The Rates below are the same, but the income brackets are higher depending if you have more then one adult in your household)
0% tax rate below 5,875 Euros
5.5% tax rate between 5,875 and 11,720 Euros
14% tax rate on between 11,720 and 26,030 Euros
30% tax rate on between 26,030 and 69,873 Euros
41% tax rate on any income over 69,873 Euros
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_France
The proposed change is 75% rate on income over 1 million Euros. It was struck ed down, but on the grounds it was written on individual and the Euro treaty says income taxes will be on households. Thus this is on Income over one million Euro per household.
TlalocW
(15,389 posts)TlalocW
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I'm sure they won't want your used up ... whatever.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)maybe not. If I can find a link I'll post it.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)According to several biographers, BB was his "dream woman". I always thought that she must be special for Lennon to be fixated on her. I'm sure if he were alive today, he'd feel differently...
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)both homophobic and anti-semitic. Thats going by the fact that if someone was bigotted in the past they remain so today.
daleo
(21,317 posts)I have seen bigots mellow out and become quite tolerant. I have also seen the reverse happen.
I have seen more of the former than the latter, but that's just one person's observations.
merrily
(45,251 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)She held up quite well until past 60.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Someone that beautiful physically usually does hold up well 9and airbrushing and/or good lighting are wonderful thing for those who aren't as fortunate).
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)While I applaud her zealous work on behalf of animal rights, she might want to consider how Russia view's the rights of humans before she runs off to them thinking its a sanctuary...
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
JI7
(89,262 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Brigitte Bardot has been a bigoted whackjob for decades now...she somehow tied animal rights to support for neofascism(the FN party).
Russia should feel just like home to her.