Claim seeks $100 million for child survivor of Connecticut school shooting
Source: Reuters
By Mary Ellen Godin MERIDEN, Connecticut | Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:36pm EST
A $100 million claim on behalf of a 6-year-old survivor is the first legal action to come out of the Connecticut school shooting that left 26 children and adults dead two weeks ago. The unidentified client, referred to as Jill Doe, heard "cursing, screaming, and shooting" over the school intercom when the gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, opened fire, according to the claim filed by New Haven-based attorney Irv Pinsky.
"As a consequence, the ... child has sustained emotional and psychological trauma and injury, the nature and extent of which are yet to be determined," the claim said.
Pinsky said he filed a claim on Thursday with state Claims Commissioner J. Paul Vance Jr., whose office must give permission before a lawsuit can be filed against the state. "We all know its going to happen again," Pinsky said on Friday. "Society has to take action."
Twenty children and six adults were shot dead on December 14 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The children were all 6 and 7 years old. Pinsky's claim said that the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner had failed to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm."
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/29/us-usa-schoolshooting-claim-idUSBRE8BS00L20121229
Confusious
(8,317 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)how much do the parents of the 20 dead children sue for?
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...than the scam artists running fake charities.
That amount is obscene.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)These children had some trauma but they were the lucky ones.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)And emerged covered in blood as the only survivor from her classroom. That's a whole lot more traumatic than hearing something over the intercom.
By ABC News
Dec 17, 2012 11:50am
The lone survivor of one of the two Sandy Hook Elementary School first-grade classrooms where Adam Lanza allegedly shot and killed 20 children tricked the gunman by playing dead, the girls pastor said.
She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood and the first thing she said to her mom was, Mommy, Im OK but all my friends are dead, Pastor Jim Solomon told ABC News Lara Spencer this weekend.
More: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/sandy-hook-classroom-survivor-played-dead/
That child will have PTSD for the rest of her life.
undeterred
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question everything
(47,500 posts)arrived at the figure of $100 million? Countless therapy sessions? For the kid and the agonizing parents? And siblings?
Honestly, my first reaction was ambulance chaser.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)trauma? The state did not cause the trauma, the nation awash in guns did, a madman did, Ms. Lanza who took her imbalanced kid shooting and left her guns around did. This kind of suit if it's allowed to go forward will bankrupt the state.
jody
(26,624 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)dept of education's fault....
jody
(26,624 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Gonzales vs. City of Castle Rock.
Gonzales vs. City of Bozeman.
(Different unrelated Gonzales's)
The school had normal, properly carried out lockdown procedures. The asshole shot up the locked door to gain entrance. What the hell could they possibly have done different? Build a school like Fort Knox?
msongs
(67,421 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)The shooter shot his way into the school; it's not like they left the door open so he could saunter in. Besides, that level of involvement isn't for the state to ensure; it's more a local issue.
Why not sue the ESTATE of the deceased, rather than the state?
Since it's determined that Adam Lanza killed his mom, he and the brother would have inherited that million dollar mansion and all of her worldly goods, unless mom cut him out of her will--they'd probably get a better payday there.
Of course, there are at least 26 other families that probably merit a piece of that pie, too.
I think "Irv Pinsky" might be an ambulance chaser--he certainly chases cheap forms of advertisement:
On edit--he IS an ambulance chaser...and apparently, a local New Haven "character:"
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/03/13/060313ta_talk_mcgrath#ixzz2GP6dftWS
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The survivors and victims deserve restitution, but as you said the state is the wrong party to sue. It will probably never go to court, but if it did it would put the state in a financial mess.
It needs to be a class action suit against the gun manufacturers.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Attention-seeking cheeseball. No shame.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)With out the runaway jury of course....
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The entire estate likely goes to the one surviving brother. Seeing as how Nancy Lanza was a VICTIM, and Adam being dead so unable to inherit just how does it come about that the Lanza estate could be successfully sued? The only Lanza family member guilty of anything is Adam who did not inherit his mother's estate (he's dead) and owned nothing of value himself at the time of his death. And as Nancy Lanza was a victim and guilty of nothing her estate is untouchable.
Believe it or not, Nancy Lanza is recognized as just as much of victim as any of the others in this incident by the townsfolk which she is. It's only the rag press and DU that has been victim blaming the mother.
MADem
(135,425 posts)the will, even if it was a momentary inheritance. They didn't die together in a horrible accident--Mom with the money died, and that money would have been distributed to her two sons, unless she had a will that said "Don't give the one that plays video games all day anything."
I am not "blaming" the mother though I do think she played an unintended and entirely preventable role in this tragedy. Who in their right mind brings a kid with a thousand yard stare and glaringly apparent socialization issues to shooting ranges in the woods and teaches them to operate semi-automatic weapons? Who in their right mind stores their weapons, unsecured, next to said adult child's basement lair? She wasn't thinking. Now, she'll never do that again.
Her status as a victim has been swept under the rug, but not just by the press or this little discussion board--she's left out of the body count in the town, too: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/nancy-lanza-newtown-memorial_n_2344910.html
When the bells of Newtown toll mournfully Friday morning to honor the victims of last week's shooting rampage, they'll do so 26 times, for each child and staff member killed.
Rarely do residents mention the first person police said Lanza killed that morning: his mother, Nancy, who was shot in the head four times while she lay in bed....In a small town where multiple funerals are taking place each day, where black-clad mourners stand in lines waiting to say goodbye to another child, many are incredibly angry at Nancy Lanza for not keeping her guns away from her son.
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DeschutesRiver
(2,354 posts)Absent a conviction (which you can't get here because Adam killed himself too), the courts can determine if he would have been convicted and if so, disallow an inheritance is typically how it works where such statutes exist.
Some states have variations of Slayer statutes, some preventing the killer from inheriting and profiting from the slaying, and I think a few even prevent children of the killer from inheriting. Others handle murder suicides in ways that I find odd, so it depends upon the state.
If CT does have such a statute, then it wouldn't make any difference what her will said given the circumstances of her death.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Then he's not guilty by reason of insanity.
Your point is salient, though, as CT does have such a statute: http://www.cga.ct.gov/2009/ACT/PA/2009PA-00201-R00SB-01031-PA.htm
(D) In any proceeding brought under this subsection, the burden of proof shall be upon the person challenging the eligibility of the named beneficiary for benefits under a life insurance policy or annuity.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)in most cases
MADem
(135,425 posts)The Slayer thing could be a problem, too. I have read of cases where the decision as to where the money goes, though, depends on who died when, and in short order.
As someone else noted, this ambulance chaser could just as easily sue the estate of the dead mother for providing Junior with unfettered access to her guns. I think the guy is a vulture, myself...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)State Citation type Year cited Last updated by Avvo
Connecticut Suspended 2003 06/20/2012
Connecticut Reprimand 1989 06/20/2012
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/06511-ct-irving-pinsky-1449309.html#licenses
lunasun
(21,646 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)marble falls
(57,134 posts)Shame, shame, shame.
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(7,776 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)This lawyer comes off as a pale imitation! Here he is:
http://www.necn.com/12/29/12/Newtown-survivor-wants-to-sue-Conn-for-1/landing_mobile.html?blockID=818195&feedID=11106
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)My understanding is it was turned on while the shooter was with the principal in an attempt to warn the teachers, staff and students to what was taking place.
I hope they don't put this child through any more hell in their attempts to benefit financially from this tragedy.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... you will have to sue the Lanza estate, the school district is NOT CULPABLE in this incident.
Some people are just SO DAMN LOW.
a11ig8r
(40 posts)Are you kidding me???
djean111
(14,255 posts)I had always thought that one can't inherit an estate through murder, so no use suing the shooter.
But - if blame can be put on the mother, than the mother's estate can be sued before it is distributed.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)to justice and to their knees, not the whole state of CT which is struggling in most quarters to survive the recession still hitting the state.
bigworld
(1,807 posts)the lawyer did "on behalf" of them? Is that legit?
LiberalFighter
(50,993 posts)Unless they somehow have standing to do so. They need to have a client I believe. That client would have to have some connection as allowed by state law.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts).
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