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Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:16 PM Dec 2012

White House talks don't include NRA: gun group president

Source: Reuters

White House talks don't include NRA: gun group president

By David Ingram
WASHINGTON | Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:45pm EST

(Reuters) - An effort led by Vice President Joe Biden to find ways to reduce gun violence after the Connecticut school massacre so far has not included talking to the National Rifle Association, the president of the gun rights group said on Friday.

NRA President David Keene said neither Biden nor his staff has contacted the organization since President Barack Obama unveiled the effort on December 19.

Keene said he was not surprised, given Biden's past support for new gun control laws. "He's not even a friendly antagonist," Keene told Reuters in an interview.

The lack of communication between the White House and the largest U.S. lobbying group for gun owners is a sign that the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, has so far failed to change long-held stances on gun politics. In that tragedy, a young man shot his mother with her own gun before killing 20 children and six adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary School.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/28/us-usa-politics-nra-idUSBRE8BR0LI20121228?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=401

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White House talks don't include NRA: gun group president (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2012 OP
Why waste the time? They've clearly demonstrated that they have nothing serious to contribute. Richardo Dec 2012 #1
He didn't invite NAMBLA either Mr. Keene. nt tridim Dec 2012 #2
LOL! Well put. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2012 #8
Why should WH talks include NRA? Bluzmann57 Dec 2012 #3
what kind of moron thinks the nra should be there? bowens43 Dec 2012 #4
GOOD MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #5
Talking to the NRA would be counter productive. liberal N proud Dec 2012 #6
Imagine that! Doctor_J Dec 2012 #7
we received yopur input last week, asshole.. frylock Dec 2012 #9
The last time the NRA worked with Democratic legislators, good things happened. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #10
NRA has shown it's crazier than the Republicans high density Dec 2012 #11
You can sum it up like this: SwankyXomb Dec 2012 #12
Why? B Stieg Dec 2012 #13
Why, Mr. Keene? Because fuck you, that's why. DRoseDARs Dec 2012 #14
Biden should make a statement thanking the NRA for their suggestions last Friday ..... groundloop Dec 2012 #15
David Keene is one of the most enduring of the original Movement Conservatives starroute Dec 2012 #16
Didn't his kid end up in jail for shooting at someone in a car? Archae Dec 2012 #19
Why should they be there? MurrayDelph Dec 2012 #17
Also didn't get an invite: DeSwiss Dec 2012 #18
Well it would be like inviting the KKK to have a discussion on race equality. Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #20
This is foolish - Biden will fail. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #21

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
3. Why should WH talks include NRA?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:20 PM
Dec 2012

The nra has politicians that are bought off, er, representing them so Biden and co. should talk to them (politicians). Just like they talk to our elected reps. Nra has no right to be included in any talks.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
4. what kind of moron thinks the nra should be there?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012

They are a big part of the problem. They are responsible for thousands of deaths.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
6. Talking to the NRA would be counter productive.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:06 PM
Dec 2012

It would be like trying to discuss anything with a FOX talking head.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
7. Imagine that!
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:08 PM
Dec 2012

Should the CEO of RJR be invited to a summit on reducing teen smoking?

These people have a LOT of nerve, I'll give them that.

high density

(13,397 posts)
11. NRA has shown it's crazier than the Republicans
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:12 PM
Dec 2012

Armed guards everywhere with Israel given as an example? No thanks.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
13. Why?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:25 PM
Dec 2012

The NRA's position is clear and its arguments well-known.

The group already made its "contribution" to the discussion last Friday.

Now, shut up.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
14. Why, Mr. Keene? Because fuck you, that's why.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:26 PM
Dec 2012

Seriously. Fuck you. Blubber about it on the Island of People Who Give a Shit.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
15. Biden should make a statement thanking the NRA for their suggestions last Friday .....
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:31 PM
Dec 2012

and then explain why they're so full of shit.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
16. David Keene is one of the most enduring of the original Movement Conservatives
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:27 AM
Dec 2012

He was a national chairman of Young Americans for Freedom in the 1960s. He served as an aide to Spiro Agnew, to Reagan in the 1970s, and then to Bush the Elder during the 1980 campaign. He was involved with some of the creepier anti-communist groups of that period, including the American-Chilean Council -- defenders of the Pinochet dictatorship -- and the Council for Inter-American Security, which had close ties with Latin American neo-fascists and domestic racists. He then headed the American Conservative Union from 1984 until last year, when he moved over to the NRA.

In short, this is someone whose roots in the extreme right go back almost 50 years. He is not anybody who can be expected to talk sense or make reasonable compromises.

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