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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:51 PM Dec 2012

Lawmaker criticizes Russian women at Iran nuclear plant ignoring Islamic dress code

Source: Associated Press

An Iranian lawmaker is saying Russian women working in the country's sole nuclear power plant do not observe the strict Islamic dress code, though they are paid extra to comply.

Under Iranian law, all women must cover themselves from head to toe in public.

A Tuesday report by the semiofficial ISNA news agency quotes Mahdi Mousavinejad, a representative of the southern Iranian port of Bushehr, where the plant is located, as saying violation of dress code by the Russian workers has had a "corrupting and negative impact" on his constituency.

Mousavinejad says he will report on the case to the Iranian parliament. He did not say how many women were involved or how much they were paid.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Lawmaker+criticizes+Russian+women+Iran+nuclear+plant+ignoring+Islamic+dress+code/7742509/story.html

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Lawmaker criticizes Russian women at Iran nuclear plant ignoring Islamic dress code (Original Post) bananas Dec 2012 OP
I hope the influence of the Russian scaflaw will encourage iemitsu Dec 2012 #1
This is much more than a dress code for the nation. pennylane100 Dec 2012 #9
Thank you. I did not mean to belittle the impact that the dress requirements, iemitsu Dec 2012 #10
I just got around to checking my posts. pennylane100 Jan 2013 #14
Thanks. I'm sure we do agree on this matter. iemitsu Jan 2013 #15
I used to think that too. Brigid Jan 2013 #16
Yep, seems so. :( iemitsu Jan 2013 #17
This is what happens when church and state are not seperate. Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #2
Shorter Mousavinejad: "WAH WAH BOO HOO Russia actually considers women to be people? WAAAHH!" alp227 Dec 2012 #3
I'm sure our good friends in Saudi Arabia could teach them how it's done. nt RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #4
Doing scientific work in a theocracy. Turbineguy Dec 2012 #5
The Iranian government will not follow suit. David__77 Dec 2012 #6
Doesn't make sense Why Syzygy Dec 2012 #7
Maybe the two goats and three barrels of crude they offered.... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #8
For a Russian? Two goats and three barrels of crude is a lot of money happyslug Dec 2012 #11
Because it's so easy to work when you are required to dress in a bag. Matariki Dec 2012 #12
I know! Being forced to wear religious medieval garb as a modern 21st century nuclear scientist riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #13
It is their country John.Mekki Jan 2013 #18
Brave statement. crim son Jan 2013 #19
thats the way I feel AlecBGreen Jan 2013 #20
i disagree AlecBGreen Jan 2013 #21
And we get to criticize Iran for its misogyny while applauding those who resist the misogyny. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #22

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
1. I hope the influence of the Russian scaflaw will encourage
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:56 PM
Dec 2012

other women to cast off their headgear.
Having a dress code for your nation is so middle-school.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
9. This is much more than a dress code for the nation.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:10 AM
Dec 2012

The code only applies to women and cannot be compared to waring a middle school uniform. Women have to be cover from head to toe and the punishment for not complying is way more harsh than a reprimand. It is a barbaric custom and a serious infringement of a woman's rights.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
10. Thank you. I did not mean to belittle the impact that the dress requirements,
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:38 AM
Dec 2012

and other restrictions on women, have on women in Iran and other conservative Islamic societies and I recognize the severity with which they enforce these laws. I agree with you that the custom is barbaric.
I was not trying to make light of the situation but rather trying to point out the absurdity of such laws, especially in the context of a modern nuclear facility.
I think all sumptuary laws are evil. They are designed to aid in societal discrimination and to enable the easy identification and control of people.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
14. I just got around to checking my posts.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jan 2013

Thank you for your reply. I think I was having a bad day and possibly overreacted. It seems we are in total agreement and I appreciate your comments.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
15. Thanks. I'm sure we do agree on this matter.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:49 AM
Jan 2013

On a good day I can communicate my thoughts clearly so it must have been a bad one for me too.
As a public school teacher, I have had to fight the "school uniform as panacea for off-task teens" crowd too often (I'm a bit obsessed by the issue and, no doubt, too quickly made the comparison).
Where do people get the idea that clothes make the man? Or, as in the case of conservative Muslim men, the idea that a woman's clothing determines how she ought to be treated. Her look determines how he should act? A pretty stupid excuse for abusing and humiliating (or worse) women, who dare to have a public face or a public voice.
Perhaps it is valid to suggest that one's chosen attire can be indicative of the wearer's attitude or personality, in some way, but for this to apply, the look must be chosen by the wearer, not school administrators, parents, or the Taliban.
The increasing numbers of rapes and abuse that have surfaced recently, both in the United States and abroad (Pakistan, India). is reprehensible and shocking.
When I was a young man I was foolish enough to believe that misogyny and racism were two of the ugly aspects of American culture that were on the wane. Boy was I ever wrong.

David__77

(23,511 posts)
6. The Iranian government will not follow suit.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:14 PM
Dec 2012

The Russian expertise is far more important than the silly rule. This guy is a nutter.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
7. Doesn't make sense
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:12 PM
Dec 2012

When photos were coming out during their color revolution, both men and women were dressed the same as Westerners.

Anyone else remember that?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. Maybe the two goats and three barrels of crude they offered....
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:29 AM
Dec 2012

...just ain't enough.

- K&R







If the modern state of Israel had existed 2000 years ago, the
Holy Family would have found this at Bethlehem…

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
11. For a Russian? Two goats and three barrels of crude is a lot of money
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:42 PM
Dec 2012

Crude prices, $108 a barrel, for $324. Goats are going for $450 for males, $225 for females:

Crude oil prices:
http://www.oil-price.net/

Goats for Sale:
http://www.fridaycreekfarm.com/forsale.html

Average (after taxes) income in Russia is only $9.945.
http://www.worldsalaries.org/russia.shtml

I hate to say it but Three barrels of oil, one male and two female goats come to $1224, which comes to $14,688 on an annual basis. Three Barrels of Crude and three goats, good wages if you are a Russian.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
12. Because it's so easy to work when you are required to dress in a bag.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

But no big deal, it's only a nuclear power plant.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. I know! Being forced to wear religious medieval garb as a modern 21st century nuclear scientist
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 03:22 PM
Dec 2012

would completely juice me up for work each day as an intelligent working woman!












(do I need the icon? Yeah, probably).

crim son

(27,464 posts)
19. Brave statement.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jan 2013

I wouldn't choose to live and work there but if I did, and accepted payment to wear a certain garb while on the job, I'd wear the garb. Period.

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
20. thats the way I feel
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jan 2013

the head-to-toe requirement is absurd, but if they agreed to that and take extra pay as part of that agreement they should abide by their promise.

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
21. i disagree
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jan 2013

to the extent that those in their own country can "behave like they want." What if they decided child sacrifice was a great thing? Genocide? Should the rest of the world stand by and twiddle their thumbs?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
22. And we get to criticize Iran for its misogyny while applauding those who resist the misogyny.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:30 PM
Jan 2013

I have no idea what the female Russian scientists jobs are within the Iranian facility but they may gotten there and realized the clothing was problematic for them to properly perform their task. Some of the traditional Iranian chadors have many many yards of fabric and would be very difficult to move around in, especially if you aren't used to wearing it. Were they knocking test tubes over with their tents or was the garb making it difficult to maneuver away from toxic chemicals?

We don't have enough information. Its possible the Russians agreed to wear it then got there and it wasn't safe. They may have never agreed to wear it and the Iranians are lying. The truth may be somewhere in between.



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