U.S. Terror Agency To Tap Citizen Files
Source: Wall Street Journal via yahoo
The rules now allow the little-known National Counterterrorism Center to examine the government files of U.S. citizens for possible criminal behavior, even if there is no reason to suspect them. That is a departure from past practice, which barred the agency from storing information about ordinary Americans unless a person was a terror suspect or related to an investigation.
Now, NCTC can copy entire government databasesflight records, casino-employee lists, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students and many others. The agency has new authority to keep data about innocent U.S. citizens for up to five years, and to analyze it for suspicious patterns of behavior. Previously, both were prohibited.
The changes also allow databases of U.S. civilian information to be given to foreign governments for analysis of their own. In effect, U.S. and foreign governments would be using the information to look for clues that people might commit future crimes.
Read more: http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/u-terror-agency-tap-citizen-034700666.html
ugh
niyad
(113,596 posts)a coronary.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)byeya
(2,842 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This article doesn't reveal Obama's position on this issue. These agencies have some leeway to make these changes, and the President may yet offer a contrary opinion. Just because Obama asked for a review of the rules and procedures, does not necessarily prove he approved of or endorses this change.
It also doesn't mean he won't try and constrain these searches and comparisons, either.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)And the only other decision to be made will be HOW the rules are applied and to whom.
so the Pres. was either not involved or was ok with the plan.
Last paragraph in the article:
Notably, the 2 key people from the Justice Dept and Homeland Security who were concerned about this plan, are now gone,:
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article does not say whose idea it was for them to leave.
It would be nice if it turns out they resigned in protest.
villager
(26,001 posts)Which is to say, we have to believe -- to face up -- to the fact this is happening, and both parties are selling us out.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)It is a dam shame when the country you live in thinks every citizen is a terrorist.
I am so ashamed and embarrassed with our government and the military brass.
The war on terror is being fought against the citizens of this country and is using our enlisted men and women as pawns the world over.
The entire Bush administration and Obama administration should be in jail serving life sentences.
jsr
(7,712 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)1. Like hell they will keep the records "only" five years.*
2. This has been going on for a long time and only now are they codifying it with some rule/law.
*Telecommunications companies and social sites have gotten into trouble for not purging data within their claimed time frame.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:41 PM - Edit history (2)
They're just announcing that it's legal now, so no complaining.
I don't know why they bother with all of this BS though- very few people complained when Jose Padilla was held without credible charge and tortured out of his mind simply to see if they could get away with it.
If they did it again I doubt anyone would even notice. Oh, wait, they did it to Bradley Manning too. Precedent set!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)quickly we'll be truly a despotic nation if a strong teabagger eventually assumes the presidency.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)drone killings PLUS "double tap" drone killings
continued building of military bases around the world
Increased survelliance of citizens
TSA became much more invasive since 2008
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)This has been going on for a decade, but is slowly be announced in little dribs and drabs so as not to disturb anyone's panic shopping.
It will eventually come out around the time the bombs start dropping on Beshehr that long ago they created profiles for each and every one of us with predictive indexes for US Citizens that will serve the basis for "counterterrorism" interviews and preventative detention. It's already become impossible to get a government job if you've been IDed as an activist. Just wait.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)triplepoint
(431 posts)Echelon Keyword Generator:
http://www.bugbrother.com/echelon/spookwordsgenerator.html
Sample:
From: Michael_Miron@ita.doc.gov
To: info@opic.gov
Subj: COBEOWEHHO (CLASSIFIED - Russia)
George J. Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence (CIA), told North Korea Reconnaissance Bureau about Mayotte (Indian Ocean) frenchelon station : a cryptoanarchist sent EloAufkl (german Elektronische Aufklärung)`s web based CGI proxys & Anonymizers logs to Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) a.k.a. Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna !
Ask 634th Military Intelligence`s contact of Vivendi Universal pollution Dpt via http://www.odci.gov/ic/ for Ref. Waihopai, INFOSEC, ASPIC, MI6, Information Security, SAI, Information Warfare.
---Post it all over the Net. Permanently monkey wrench Echelon altogether. It's the patriotic thing to do.
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)Probably makes as much sense as any Ludlum novel.
Solly Mack
(90,789 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
Operation Northwoods: The 9/11 You Never Knew
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)here they are.
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Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)On the other hand, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and their ilk are in the pool.
trouble.smith
(374 posts)changes you can believe in.