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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:59 AM Dec 2012

‘Queer at Patrick Henry College’ vexes school’s chancellor

Source: LoudounTimes.com ; Loudoun Times-Mirror

Gay students at Patrick Henry College in Purcellville don’t exist. They can’t exist. So says Dr. Michael Farris, the college’s founder and chancellor.

It’s simple, really. Homosexuals can’t exist at Patrick Henry College because the students sign an honor code, Farris claimed. “[Homosexuals] could not sign our honor code,” Farris said, adding that he considers the actions of gay men and women “sinful.” “Part of the honor code is to be sexually pure,” he added.

So you can imagine the chancellor’s consternation when he learned of Queer at Patrick Henry College, a six-month-old, provocatively-titled blog operated by three pseudonymous writers – all of whom graduated from or have taken classes at the school.
....

Dr. Farris is not a fan. On Dec. 1 the chancellor sent a message to Queer at Patrick Henry through Facebook. “This page is in violation of our copyright of the name Patrick Henry College,” Farris wrote. “... you must remove this page at once. On Monday, we will began (sic) the legal steps to seek removal from Facebook and from the courts if necessary. In the process of this matter we can seek discovery from Facebook to learn your identity and seek damages from you as permitted by law. The best thing for all concerned is for you to simply remove this page.”





Read more: http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/article/queer_at_patrick_henry_college_vexes_schools_chancellor456/



Loudoun County is the county in northern Virginia in which Eugene Delgaudio is on the board of supervisors. His district, though, is to the east of Purcellville. Rick Santorum also lived in Loudoun County. Patrick Henry is, as the article states, a school for evangelicals. Expect Delgaudio to show up for a protest of some sort. As big a drama queen as he is, he won't be able to resist.

If I am not mistaken, the school eschews Federal funding. Their website is http://www.phc.edu/.

You can find Queer at Patrick Henry at http://queerphc.wordpress.com/.

Remarkable, this one. Really remarkable.
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‘Queer at Patrick Henry College’ vexes school’s chancellor (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2012 OP
Maybe Dr Farris should move to Iran. Homosexuality doesn't exist there; just ask Ahmadinejad. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #1
That, is really where individuals such as this belong. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2
This school is also the farm where the GOP gets their interns: ehrnst Dec 2012 #3
Would make a good fictional story, scary that it's true. nt mountain grammy Dec 2012 #6
I'll bet they bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #4
Omg, the gays are infiltrating our schools! DetlefK Dec 2012 #5
One doesn't' need to have sex EC Dec 2012 #7
it depends on what the definition of "is" is? coldbeer Dec 2012 #9
Nope, EC Dec 2012 #10
Um... No. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #13
Mentioning the name of the college you attended is "a violation of copyright law"? Is this idiot Nay Dec 2012 #8
This is the fucking Chancellor? hootinholler Dec 2012 #11
Does that mean there's no heterosexuals, either? Iggo Dec 2012 #12
The first thing the infiltrator does is sign your stupid pledge. In any org. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #14
Evidently the chancellor has backed off the legal threats... DreamGypsy Dec 2012 #15
"litigation is not appropriate"? Nope, it's not, you moron, because the mere mention of the Nay Dec 2012 #16
In other words he consulted a copyright lawyer and was told he didn't have a pot to piss in, yellowcanine Dec 2012 #31
Farris, you are... progressoid Dec 2012 #17
nutter trainer college Sunlei Dec 2012 #18
Where did you get that sescription? sakabatou Dec 2012 #19
Patrick Henry rolling around in his grave Hydra Dec 2012 #20
Because anyone who violates the honor code instantly dissolves in a puff of smoke? tanyev Dec 2012 #21
Yes, and wow, do I hate it when that happens. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #23
This is why Andy Stanton Dec 2012 #22
"Who wants to be associated with a movement that suffers from psychotic delusions?" greiner3 Dec 2012 #24
The Washington Post has picked up the story. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2012 #25
Farris is one of the pseudonymous writers and . . . DanM Dec 2012 #26
I'm surprised relatives of Patrick Henry don't sue the school for using his name. denverbill Dec 2012 #27
I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2012 #29
Oh noes! Don't tell the tea baggers that James Madison did not like PH either. yellowcanine Dec 2012 #32
patrick henry was the name of the college in Atlas shrugged MrYikes Dec 2012 #28
"Dr." Farris? He has a J.D. yes. But most lawyers do not use "Dr." yellowcanine Dec 2012 #30
The article has been picked up at DCist.com. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2012 #33
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
3. This school is also the farm where the GOP gets their interns:
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:05 AM
Dec 2012
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-09.htm

"No, what makes Patrick Henry unique is the increasingly close - critics say alarmingly close - links this recently established, right-wing Christian college has with the Bush administration and the Republican establishment as a whole. This spring, of the almost 100 interns working in the White House, seven are from Patrick Henry. Another intern works for the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign, while another works for President George Bush's senior political adviser, Karl Rove. Yet another works for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad. Over the past four years, 22 conservative members of Congress have employed one or more Patrick Henry interns. Janet Ashcroft, the wife of Bush's Bible-thumping Attorney General, is one of the college's trustees."

EC

(12,287 posts)
10. Nope,
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:51 AM
Dec 2012

don't have to have sex to be gay. The pledge just says they can't have sex. So okay, stick to the pledge and don't have sex. Does that change anything? No a person is still what they are, rather hetro or gay, just not having sex.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. Um... No.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:23 PM
Dec 2012

I was still classified as a heterosexual when I was a virgin.

Don't have to be sexually active to know your preference.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
8. Mentioning the name of the college you attended is "a violation of copyright law"? Is this idiot
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:35 AM
Dec 2012

chancellor so stupid that he actually believes this? It goes to show just how dumb these people can be.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
11. This is the fucking Chancellor?
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:59 AM
Dec 2012

Forget for a moment, that wordpress and facebook are two separate things. My god, the English skill is striking plus there is no arguing with his logic.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. The first thing the infiltrator does is sign your stupid pledge. In any org.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:35 PM
Dec 2012

You run a school and haven't figured this out yet?


Nay

(12,051 posts)
16. "litigation is not appropriate"? Nope, it's not, you moron, because the mere mention of the
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:13 PM
Dec 2012

school's name by people who attended it IS NEVER A COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, no matter how much your panties got in a twist. And by the way, it also did NOT reflect the "inappropriate nature of the use of our trademarked name" either -- people are allowed to talk well or talk trash about you without a "trademark" infringement of any kind.

Now, if some people got together and wanted to name their new school "Patrick Henry College" THAT would be a copyright infringement.

This person is a chancellor??

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
31. In other words he consulted a copyright lawyer and was told he didn't have a pot to piss in,
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:12 PM
Dec 2012

legal-wise. The guy is a lawyer himself, though, so he should have known better, as copyright law would have been covered in law school, and use of a school's name by former students of that school to distinguish their group would seem to be clearly a a permitted use. Otherwise every time a class wanted to advertise a class reunion on FB they would have to get permission from the school.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. nutter trainer college
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:47 PM
Dec 2012

..."Nearly all of the students at Patrick Henry College have been home-schooled by ultra-conservative evangelical Christian parents. At Patrick Henry these young people can complete their christo-fascist indoctrination before joining right-wing think tanks and media groups in Washington.

Students are taught to kneel before images of Jesus and Ronald Reagan; they attend lecturess on how America can waterboard its way to global dominance. Professors are dismissed if they actually teach science, since students are taught that the earth is only 6000 years old and baby Jesus frolicked with dinosaurs
....."
by Downeastdem, Daily Kos, 11/23/2012

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
20. Patrick Henry rolling around in his grave
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 04:14 PM
Dec 2012

Mind you, he has been almost since the beginning of the country, but a private college carrying his name that grinds out christofascists for the purpose of destroying personal freedoms...

Just...wow. Who says irony is dead?

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
22. This is why
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 05:43 PM
Dec 2012

The conservative movement in the US is in so much trouble. They live in their own fictional world, completely divorced from reality. Who wants to be associated with a movement that suffers from psychotic delusions?

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
24. "Who wants to be associated with a movement that suffers from psychotic delusions?"
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

Me thinks those who are already so deeply entrenched within them, are in denial they are.

Those who don't believe that they could possibly be the ones who could be 'pulled' into the brain washing necessary are just a few Jeebuses short of joining these ranks.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
25. The Washington Post has picked up the story.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:05 AM
Dec 2012
Homosexuality at Patrick Henry College? Never! New blog says otherwise, college not pleased

Posted at 05:22 AM ET, 12/13/2012 Dec 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST
TheWashingtonPost
By Tom Jackman

A new blog launched this past summer called “Queer at Patrick Henry College,” written anonymously by several former students of the Purcellville-based institution for home-school grads. Without any notoriety, the blog might have toiled in relative anonymity, exploring the idea of homosexuality at a Christian college where it is, uh, frowned upon.

But then the president and founder of the school, Michael Farris, sent a threatening note to the bloggers, saying he would sue if they didn’t stop the unauthorized use of the college’s name. And now, Queer at Patrick Henry College is out there, blogospherically as well as sexually.

Trevor Baratko in the Loudoun Times-Mirror has the full story, and he spoke with both Farris and the anonymous bloggers. Farris told him homosexuals can’t exist at Patrick Henry and that he thought the blog was a hoax. The site apparently is blocked on the Patrick Henry wi-fi network. Baratko then met the bloggers and saw at least one genuine Patrick Henry diploma.


 

DanM

(341 posts)
26. Farris is one of the pseudonymous writers and . . .
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Dec 2012

. . . just stirring up publicity to get more eyeballs to his blog.

That's my theory.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
29. I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 11:28 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Not that that's the gold standard. Anyway:

For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry

For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
Categories: Uncategorized
by Chris Rodda

So, today {January 16} is Religious Freedom Day, the anniversary of the passage of Thomas Jefferson’s Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. No, I’m not going to post Jefferson’s statute; I’m going to post something cooler than that — one of my favorite lines ever written by Jefferson.

The background: Jefferson drafted his religious freedom statute in 1777 and introduced it in 1779, but it didn’t go anywhere. It wasn’t until 1786 that Jefferson’s statute was passed. Jefferson was in France at the time, so it was Madison who reintroduced the religious freedom statute. This was right after James Madison defeated Patrick Henry’s bill to tax everybody in Virginia to support teachers of the Christian religion.

Jefferson couldn’t stand Patrick Henry and his theocratic agenda, and made this quite clear in one {of} his letters to Madison while Madison was battling Henry’s bill for a Christian religious tax. When Madison wrote to Jefferson asking what they should do about Henry, Jefferson replied:

“While Mr. Henry Lives another bad constitution would be formed, and saddled for ever on us. What we have to do I think is devoutly to pray for his death …”


Of course, the Christian nationalist history revisionists either ignore this line from Jefferson, or claim it is made up by evil secularists to impugn the character of our very Christian founding fathers.
....

{This is} from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to James Madison on December 8, 1784, and can be found on pages 353-354 of The Republic Of Letters, The Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison 1776-1826, Volume I.


Patrick Henry was the first governor of Virginia, and Thomas Jefferson was the second. We really got off to a great start, didn't we?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
32. Oh noes! Don't tell the tea baggers that James Madison did not like PH either.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:21 PM
Dec 2012

The theocratic wing of the Tea Bagger Party will not be pleased.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
28. patrick henry was the name of the college in Atlas shrugged
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:58 AM
Dec 2012

but it was Dr. Ferris that oversaw the torture (spelled with an "e&quot

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
30. "Dr." Farris? He has a J.D. yes. But most lawyers do not use "Dr."
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:03 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/lawyers_are_doctors_too/

Particularly in a university setting it is a little weird because most university professors who use "Dr." have a Ph.D. - and this use actually precedes the use of Dr. for professional degrees, including M.D.s

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