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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:56 PM Dec 2012

GOP governors seek leeway on Medicaid expansion

Source: Washington Post

Republican governors are ratcheting up pressure on President Obama to scale back a key provision of his health-care law.

In a recent letter to Obama, 11 governors asked for a meeting “as soon as possible” to negotiate for greater control over their Medicaid programs.

Among other things, the governors want the option of expanding Medicaid — the state-federal program for the poor and disabled — in a much more modest way than envisioned in the law.

“To make any health care reform truly successful, [the administration] should let states do what they do best — innovate and tailor solutions to the needs of their citizens,” the governors wrote. The letter was signed by Jan Brewer of Arizona, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Rick Scott of Florida, Robert F. McDonnell of Virginia and the governors of Iowa, Maine, Mississippi, Ohio, South Dakota, Utah and Wyoming.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/gop-governors-seek-leeway-on-medicaid-expansion/2012/12/08/80ab2e72-3e52-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_singlePage.html

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GOP governors seek leeway on Medicaid expansion (Original Post) alp227 Dec 2012 OP
Translation atreides1 Dec 2012 #1
+1 freshwest Dec 2012 #6
Kansas wercal Dec 2012 #13
welcome to DU! alp227 Dec 2012 #14
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #15
It is well known that this kind of action will cause the poor to leave the state. This especially jwirr Dec 2012 #19
Do they know how stupid that sounds? I'd be embarrassed to say such stuff in the WH. AnnaLee Dec 2012 #2
Thank Gawd we got a Democrat. We were spared a lying Republican November 6th. freshwest Dec 2012 #7
Good point. Wisco had a great system. Then Walker got in their AllyCat Dec 2012 #17
+1 Thank You - southern_belle Dec 2012 #28
Just set up the damn exchange and kwityerbitchin Panasonic Dec 2012 #3
How about, "NO" go f yourself dballance Dec 2012 #4
Hows about seeing a plan HOW you intend to tailor it to fit your citizens? benld74 Dec 2012 #5
Good point. Waivers are granted only after the state proposes a plan for a BETTER program not one jwirr Dec 2012 #20
They don't need waivers. former9thward Dec 2012 #21
Thanks I did not know that. jwirr Dec 2012 #23
No. We are not going to give blank checks to the likes of Jan Bewer, Rick Scott and Scott Walker bluestateguy Dec 2012 #8
Whoa! Texas isn't on this list? I thought Ricky refused altogether, but... freshwest Dec 2012 #9
This is about Medicaid expansion not the exchanges. former9thward Dec 2012 #22
Tell us what Ricky is going to do with Medicaid, then. That's mostly federal funding. freshwest Dec 2012 #24
Why don't you tell us what "Ricky" is going to do. former9thward Dec 2012 #25
I had forgotten your position. Thanks. freshwest Dec 2012 #26
You wouldn't think Rick Perry would do the right thing? LeftInTX Dec 2012 #29
You got that right, thanks for the link on how they're related: freshwest Dec 2012 #30
Remember when Obama acted in good faith with Republican Governors on Welfare to Work Requirements? rainin Dec 2012 #10
Texas may use it to subsidize health insurance companies by lowering copays. Its back to DhhD Dec 2012 #11
Go fuck yourselves, GOPers! The election's over. You lost. Get over it. Bozita Dec 2012 #12
Weasel words. Tailor the "benefits" to their citizens means AllyCat Dec 2012 #16
They already have "leeway." They don't have to expand it. David__77 Dec 2012 #18
GOP governors wanted more leeway in work requirements for welfare, doc03 Dec 2012 #27

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
1. Translation
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:03 PM
Dec 2012

What they say:

“To make any health care reform truly successful, should let states do what they do best — innovate and tailor solutions to the needs of their citizens,”

What they mean:

"We want to use this money to ease our budget woes, even at the cost of lives. And we don't like the idea of you getting any credit for anything."

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. It is well known that this kind of action will cause the poor to leave the state. This especially
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:02 PM
Dec 2012

happens when the poor are on the borders of their states and can move into a state that has a better program. Both Iowa and South Dakota have used weaker programs to dump their poor into the Minnesota programs. I know - been there and done that many years ago.

I also remember that was one of the reasons why we moved from state run AFDC programs to federal programs - state run programs often discriminated against minorities. When uniform federal laws were put into place much of this ended.

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
2. Do they know how stupid that sounds? I'd be embarrassed to say such stuff in the WH.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:04 PM
Dec 2012

If States were so innovative they would have tailored a solution to the health care problems for their citizens long ago. They are the ones that approve insurance and insurance increases. The intervention at the federal level was necessitated by the negligence at the State level. I say this because the Governors say they can do it themselves. Duh, why aren't Democratic Governors joining this? Aren't they innovative too?

AllyCat

(16,217 posts)
17. Good point. Wisco had a great system. Then Walker got in their
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:49 AM
Dec 2012

and started hacking away at it. Now he wants a bye from the law.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. How about, "NO" go f yourself
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:05 PM
Dec 2012

rather than you continuing to do everything you can to f your citizens?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. Good point. Waivers are granted only after the state proposes a plan for a BETTER program not one
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:05 PM
Dec 2012

that refuses to improve the program.

former9thward

(32,069 posts)
21. They don't need waivers.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:45 PM
Dec 2012

The Supreme Court decsion which so many praised gave the states the right to reject Medicaid expansion without penalty.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
8. No. We are not going to give blank checks to the likes of Jan Bewer, Rick Scott and Scott Walker
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:17 PM
Dec 2012

so they can turn around and give the money away in tax cuts.

No.

Better to just try and get some of these otherwise Medicaid eligible people covered in the exchanges.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Whoa! Texas isn't on this list? I thought Ricky refused altogether, but...
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:18 PM
Dec 2012

I'd love to see him eat some crow and sign up.

former9thward

(32,069 posts)
22. This is about Medicaid expansion not the exchanges.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:47 PM
Dec 2012

Two different issues. TX rejected the state exchanges.

former9thward

(32,069 posts)
25. Why don't you tell us what "Ricky" is going to do.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 06:22 PM
Dec 2012

Since you seem to be on a first name basis with him. I have no idea what TX is going to do about Medicaid. I was only pointing out the issue of state exchanges and the issue of state expansion of Medicaid are two different things.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
30. You got that right, thanks for the link on how they're related:
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:07 AM
Dec 2012
In the Supreme Court’s June decision which upheld the constitutionality of Obama’s health care law, the Court also found states have the right to reject the law’s Medicaid expansion without losing their current federal funding. Perry noted in his letter that expanding Medicaid would mandate the admission of millions of additional Texans into the already unsustainable Medicaid program, at a potential cost of billions to Texas taxpayers, Davidson said.

Um, so the governor wants MILLIONS of Texans to have NO health insurance. Guess they just don't count as human beings to Ricky.

“ObamaCare takes things like Medicaid and transforms them into something else. The Medicaid expansion is designed to go hand-in-hand with the state exchanges,” Davidson said. “You go to an exchange and they tell you what programs you qualify for and if you can’t afford to pay, then they qualify you for Medicaid. This creates another welfare entitlement.”

Had to toss in the memes entitlements and welfare. Ricky believes his pals are entitled and gives them corporate welfare.

What a prince among men. Thanks.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
10. Remember when Obama acted in good faith with Republican Governors on Welfare to Work Requirements?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:29 PM
Dec 2012

Republicans turned that around and accused Obama of ending the work requirement for welfare recipients. That got endless play by several republican candidates including Mitt Romney (if I recall correctly). Anyway, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice... The republican governors have gall.

For those who don't remember, I found this on Politifact:

Clinton said in his convention speech that the Obama administration "agreed to give waivers to those governors and others only if they had a credible plan to increase employment by 20 percent, and they could keep the waivers only if they did increase employment."

That's an accurate recap of the planned changes to Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. By granting waivers to states, the Obama administration is seeking to strengthen welfare-to-work efforts by letting states try different approaches based on their residents’ needs. That’s important too -- the waivers would be considered for individually evaluated pilot programs. HHS is not proposing a blanket, national change to welfare law.

The waiver offering was spurred by requests from several governors, including Republican governors, and Sebelius explicitly stated that only requests that "demonstrate clear progress" toward enhancing employment will be approved by HHS.

Clinton’s statement is accurate. We rate it True.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
11. Texas may use it to subsidize health insurance companies by lowering copays. Its back to
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:55 PM
Dec 2012

privatization not nationalization of health care. It will hurt the poor; the very ones that were supposed to be picked up in to the social net of care.

GOP = Moving Backward.

Obamacare = Moving Forward.

AllyCat

(16,217 posts)
16. Weasel words. Tailor the "benefits" to their citizens means
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:46 AM
Dec 2012

not providing anything because they don't care about citizens that don't contribute thousands to their campaign coffers.

David__77

(23,486 posts)
18. They already have "leeway." They don't have to expand it.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:58 AM
Dec 2012

They will then forgo the federal funds to support expanding it, of course.

doc03

(35,363 posts)
27. GOP governors wanted more leeway in work requirements for welfare,
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:54 PM
Dec 2012

remember what happened "Obama took work requirement out of welfare."

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