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BumRushDaShow

(130,044 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 04:49 PM Apr 28

Kristi Noem dogged by poor polling amid fallout from tale of killing puppy

Source: The Guardian

Sun 28 Apr 2024 02.00 EDT Last modified on Sun 28 Apr 2024 13.47 EDT


Kristi Noem, the South Dakota governor and Republican vice-presidential hopeful, saw polling numbers plummet after the Guardian revealed that she writes in a new book about the day she shot dead a hunting dog and an un-castrated goat, a revelation that ignited a political storm.

Announcing what it called its “Noem Puppy Murder Poll Findings”, New River Strategies, a Democratic firm, said 81% of Americans disapproved of Noem’s decision to shoot Cricket, a 14-month-old wire-haired pointer who Noem says ruined a pheasant hunt and killed a neighbour’s chickens, thereby earning a trip to a gravel pit to die.

According to Noem’s account, the goat, which Noem did not name, followed Cricket to the pit because Noem deemed his odour and behaviour unacceptable on her farm. By Noem’s own detailed admission, it took two blasts from a shotgun, separated by a walk back to her truck for more shells, to finish the goat off.

Noem’s book – No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward – will be published in May. The Guardian obtained a copy. The governor’s extraordinary admission made news because she has long been seen to be auditioning to be picked for vice-president by Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/27/kristi-noem-dog-goat-book-trump-running-mate-polling

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Kristi Noem dogged by poor polling amid fallout from tale of killing puppy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 28 OP
"Dogged?" Lunabell Apr 28 #1
... BumRushDaShow Apr 28 #3
I' m sure that headline Old Crank Apr 28 #41
ooooh. Lunabell Apr 28 #42
I sure hope so! calimary Apr 29 #52
Thank God. Someone like this is pathetic. I've been w/ farm families and their animals, seen, etc., and SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #54
That fallout will always hound her... 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 28 #2
Haunt? Voltaire2 Apr 28 #5
Too soon. Lunabell Apr 28 #6
She's being hounded by the media. Voltaire2 Apr 28 #4
Good Rebl2 Apr 28 #12
Polls again.................. Lovie777 Apr 28 #7
JHC... It took a walk back to the truck for more bullets to kill the goat already shot twice? hlthe2b Apr 28 #8
Evidently, she can't shoot straight. Mawspam2 Apr 28 #14
What a cold blooded woman. sheshe2 Apr 28 #9
I hope her political "career" is over. brer cat Apr 28 #11
I hope so too. sheshe2 Apr 28 #16
"Noem has shot her political career in a gravel pit." (Borowitz) sop Apr 29 #65
It's astonishing she's such a stupid, cold hearted, evil creature she would include that story in Vinca Apr 28 #10
Most likely Rebl2 Apr 28 #13
These Conservatives just don't think right. hadEnuf Apr 28 #35
She thought Trump would be titillated viva la Apr 29 #62
He probably is. Island Blue Apr 29 #79
I knew the way the goat slightlv Apr 28 #15
Buck goats during rut season central scrutinizer Apr 28 #17
I stayed by a goat like that a couple years ago and yea that stench was horrible Maraya1969 Apr 28 #21
She Thinks The Way To Deal With A Bad-Tempered Stinky Creature Is To Shoot It? smb Apr 28 #47
It is bad enough that she shot an innocent puppy, PatSeg Apr 28 #18
How the hell did the publisher let that stay in? underpants Apr 28 #27
Well, either whoever read her book PatSeg Apr 29 #69
👀 underpants Apr 29 #72
Oh, that is brilliant! PatSeg Apr 29 #73
Not Only That RobinA Apr 29 #60
We are fortunate in that she managed PatSeg Apr 29 #71
Trump catches another lucky break Pototan Apr 28 #19
I would not bet on the story killing his chances. yourout Apr 28 #29
No kidding? Jean Genie Apr 28 #20
Who doesn't think this was not her 1st rodeo as per shooting pets or farm animals? Botany Apr 29 #58
Will voters in S. Dakota care? TomSlick Apr 28 #22
Nope, they wouldn't ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 28 #39
Puppy Mill Killer /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 28 #23
Fuck her. I don't care what she's claiming in her damn book. calimary Apr 28 #24
She let the dog loose in the neighbor's yard? LiberalFighter Apr 28 #25
Stick a fork in her, she's done.... Blue Owl Apr 28 #26
Can't find the clip but Tom Hank's after "Turner & Hooch" was on Letterman underpants Apr 28 #30
She's toast as far as the VP spot. edbermac Apr 28 #28
Noem defended Cricket's shooting today: sop Apr 28 #31
Dogs For Biden 2024 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 28 #32
Her book should have been titled "No Going Back: The Truth on What's Wrong with Me and Martin68 Apr 28 #33
Plays on words aside, this was an utterly despicable act. PatrickforB Apr 28 #34
Kind of a weird thing to boast about in her book IronLionZion Apr 28 #36
If she'd shoot a puppy just for having too much fun while hunting, imagine what she'd do to Democrats. sop Apr 29 #67
This is where Republicans draw the line. Rizen Apr 28 #37
Hardly ForgoTheConsequence Apr 29 #53
Well, you know,... rpannier Apr 28 #38
BumRushDaShow.......... Upthevibe Apr 28 #40
Human Rights, Women Rights, Minority Rights, mean nothing to Repukes, but shoot a puppy. OverBurn Apr 28 #43
Not the same, because the victim was his son.... viva la Apr 29 #63
New campaign sign. sinkingfeeling Apr 28 #44
Kristi's F-M-K Game Picks smb Apr 28 #46
John Wick JPK Apr 28 #45
She actually thought that story about killing a dog made her sound strong and decisive. SunSeeker Apr 28 #48
needing more than one shotgun shell displays her inability to focus Traurigkeit Apr 29 #50
Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem dalton99a Apr 29 #49
"Gov. Kristi Noem's Doggie Style Angers Voters." How's that for a headline? :) n/t brewens Apr 29 #51
Monster. Plain and simple. The animals under you trusted you. I hate you and what you represent. SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #55
She's the hottest psychopath at the lake. SalamanderSleeps Apr 29 #56
Excuse the pun: Her stunt backfired on her. no_hypocrisy Apr 29 #57
Cricket is chilling up there in doggy heaven all like, "Hows that find out working for you?" SKKY Apr 29 #59
Live by the gun, die by the gun. lark Apr 29 #61
What about the 19% who don't disapprove of her shooting the family dog? Botany Apr 29 #64
A person that can't train a dog Monsieur_Grumpe Apr 29 #66
She used a fucking SHOTGUN? ismnotwasm Apr 29 #68
And she went back to her truck to get more shells. 2 weren't enough IronLionZion Apr 29 #75
Ugh. ismnotwasm Apr 29 #78
The fact that she thought it was a flex and an example of her "leadership qualities" shows just how sick she is. catbyte Apr 29 #70
She must have really thought that the Kills Things For Fun And Then Poses For Pics Party would really go for that. Aristus Apr 29 #74
Trump did not shoot a puppy Turbineguy Apr 29 #76
"The governor may be a shitty hunter but at least you know she can kill a puppy and a goat" struggle4progress Apr 29 #77
She's too stupid EndlessWire Apr 30 #80

SWBTATTReg

(22,222 posts)
54. Thank God. Someone like this is pathetic. I've been w/ farm families and their animals, seen, etc., and
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 01:47 AM
Apr 29

this behavior of hers is absolutely horrendous.

Lovie777

(12,407 posts)
7. Polls again..................
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:06 PM
Apr 28

RWers and theirs polls.

I think humans can decide for themselves without them.

hlthe2b

(102,562 posts)
8. JHC... It took a walk back to the truck for more bullets to kill the goat already shot twice?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:06 PM
Apr 28

I was already reeling from her account of killing her puppy and now that? Uggh.

Apparently (which might be the "ultimate sin even for her MAGA gun-humping supporters" ) she's no kind of 'good shot' either.

What a horrible horrible waste of human life form.

sheshe2

(84,072 posts)
16. I hope so too.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:49 PM
Apr 28

The pup was horrible enough, yet think how that poor goat suffered when she had to saunter back to her truck to get more bullets because she F'ed up!

Vinca

(50,334 posts)
10. It's astonishing she's such a stupid, cold hearted, evil creature she would include that story in
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:18 PM
Apr 28

her book because she must have thought it would impress the gun-humping masses.

central scrutinizer

(11,667 posts)
17. Buck goats during rut season
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:54 PM
Apr 28

Are displaying their virility by ejaculating and urinating into their beards. The smell is hard to describe. If you’re not ready for it, you should not have goats.

Maraya1969

(22,516 posts)
21. I stayed by a goat like that a couple years ago and yea that stench was horrible
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 06:47 PM
Apr 28

But I figured it wasn't his fault and I could always go wash my hands.

smb

(3,479 posts)
47. She Thinks The Way To Deal With A Bad-Tempered Stinky Creature Is To Shoot It?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:34 PM
Apr 28

Trump better keep her far away...

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
18. It is bad enough that she shot an innocent puppy,
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 05:56 PM
Apr 28

but she was also stupid enough to include that in her book. So that makes her both cruel and dumb.

Great combination for a governor or possible VP.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
69. Well, either whoever read her book
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:23 AM
Apr 29

is a Democrat and left it in intentionally to undermine her political career or they didn't bother to even proofread it before publishing it.

Of course if they "also publish Newt, Vivek, and Carson", I suppose the publisher didn't have a problem with shooting a puppy either.

RobinA

(9,909 posts)
60. Not Only That
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:03 AM
Apr 29

but she bothers to tell us what a fun time the puppy was having before she shot it and seems to make its high spirits part of the reason she shot it. Apparently just a day in the life where she's concerned, doesn't think it's a problem. Despicable human being.

PatSeg

(47,770 posts)
71. We are fortunate in that she managed
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:38 AM
Apr 29

to reveal to us who and what she really is.

Apparently this happened many years ago and she felt she should include it in her memoir. It's not like it just slipped out in a conversation or an interview..."oops". She made a conscious effort to make sure the world knew that she was a puppy-killer, as if people would agree with her.

Obviously she was unaware that many republicans are dog-lovers and nothing turns off a dog-lover more than a person who abuses their pets. This makes her both sick AND clueless.

Pototan

(1,242 posts)
19. Trump catches another lucky break
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 06:06 PM
Apr 28

If the current hush money trial was televised Trump would be cooked. Lucky break for him.

If Trump picked Kristy Noam as his VP running mate and then this book and story came out, once again, he'd be cooked.

yourout

(7,537 posts)
29. I would not bet on the story killing his chances.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:40 PM
Apr 28

I if.."grab them by the..." Didn't stop him this would not as well.

Jean Genie

(287 posts)
20. No kidding?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 06:19 PM
Apr 28

Let us hope that Kristi Noem, professional puppy killer, goes off into the sunset, tail between her legs. What a horrible, horrible person! Fourteen months old is essentially a baby dog. She shot and killed a baby dog for ... being a young, untrained dog! God damn the woman! I guess that would make her a perfect running mate for the Orange Menace, because he thought it would have been cool to shoot humans in the middle of Manhattan.

I just don't understand what is wrong with (far too many) people. Did too many of us somehow get implanted with a type of "revenge gene?" OMG! Is that what COVID shots did? Did those of us who got our shots become evil dog-and-human-hating individuals?

But wait! That's not how it works. Remember Joe and Jill Biden's biting dog? They didn't shoot and kill him; despite several aggressive events. They instead found him a happier, safer home with people who weren't in such a high pressure (for dog or human) profession. They had MATURITY, UNDERSTANDING, and COMPASSION for their pup, as they have for their fellow human beings. Maybe instead of getting the revenge gene, some republicans have simply lost their HUMANITY gene!

So sad.

Botany

(70,657 posts)
58. Who doesn't think this was not her 1st rodeo as per shooting pets or farm animals?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 07:39 AM
Apr 29

I wonder how many more carcasses are in the Governor’s gravel pit? She is a Governor
all she had to do was make a phone call and an animal rescue organization would have
picked up the dog and goat with in a day.

calimary

(81,608 posts)
24. Fuck her. I don't care what she's claiming in her damn book.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:15 PM
Apr 28

I WON’T EVER vote for a candidate like her. Besides, I just DO NOT vote for Republicans. PERIOD.

LiberalFighter

(51,389 posts)
25. She let the dog loose in the neighbor's yard?
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:21 PM
Apr 28

Not a responsible dog owner. It was not the dog's fault for killing a chicken.

Them she kills a goat because he stunk? It is a shame animals don't have their own laws. I didn't know about the goat until today.

underpants

(183,043 posts)
30. Can't find the clip but Tom Hank's after "Turner & Hooch" was on Letterman
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:40 PM
Apr 28

Hooch dies in the film which greatly diminished the box office gross. He was in Letterman and said , “they have it written out in hedges now at Disney DON’T KILL THE DOG!!!”

sop

(10,299 posts)
31. Noem defended Cricket's shooting today:
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 07:52 PM
Apr 28

"She defended her decision to kill the dog, saying that South Dakota law states that dogs who attack and kill livestock can be put down."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristi-noem-dog-cricket-new-book-defense/

Martin68

(22,971 posts)
33. Her book should have been titled "No Going Back: The Truth on What's Wrong with Me and
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:19 PM
Apr 28

my Plan to Put America down like a Bad Puppy."

PatrickforB

(14,605 posts)
34. Plays on words aside, this was an utterly despicable act.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:24 PM
Apr 28

She personifies the cruelty of the present Republican party.

IronLionZion

(45,667 posts)
36. Kind of a weird thing to boast about in her book
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:35 PM
Apr 28

and nobody advised her to take it out before publishing? Commentators have speculated she's pandering to a certain type who is into that sort of thing, to appear macho or whatever. Her context is that she makes difficult decisions that result in pain and death for someone else.

sop

(10,299 posts)
67. If she'd shoot a puppy just for having too much fun while hunting, imagine what she'd do to Democrats.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:20 AM
Apr 29

Rizen

(728 posts)
37. This is where Republicans draw the line.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:41 PM
Apr 28

"Sure it's okay for Trump to rape women but god forbid someone kills a puppy!"

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
38. Well, you know,...
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 09:51 PM
Apr 28

the dog was showing signs of rabid behavior brought on by his control of a space laser that was able to control the weather, causing massive earthquakes, and a stock market crash that would devastate the skies over South Dakota causing everyone in the state to become woke. What was she supposed to do?

Upthevibe

(8,108 posts)
40. BumRushDaShow..........
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 10:08 PM
Apr 28

Well, other than being a terrible person who had absolutely NO clue that a majority of Americans would be horrified by this act, any belief that she's a good decision is now out the window.

I mean deciding to put that incident in her book shows such a lack of understanding "typical" Americans. I'd say a majority of folks like animals (even if they don't currently own one themselves they possibly grew up with one and/or have friends who have a dog or cat). dt has been very clear about his disdain for dogs so he was probably pleased about her innate cruelty. As others have said, she was probably trying to please him but didn't realize that she'd alienate a significant number of Americans.

I feel especially sorry for the goat because that animal didn't die right away and she had to go to her vehicle to get more rounds.
F her!!!!!!!!!!!!

OverBurn

(971 posts)
43. Human Rights, Women Rights, Minority Rights, mean nothing to Repukes, but shoot a puppy.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:07 PM
Apr 28

If we could find a story about Trump and a animal we might get somewhere with his crazies. Remember Mitt Romney cruelly strapped a dog cage on the roof of his car and drove thousands of miles. That hurt him in the polls when people found out.

viva la

(3,371 posts)
63. Not the same, because the victim was his son....
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:29 AM
Apr 29

But supposedly Trump promised Barron a dog if he and his mother would finally move to the White House, even picked out a dog, then insisted that the dog couldn't leave the person who was fostering it for him.

Poor Barron wasn't even given a chance at a substitute.

SunSeeker

(51,813 posts)
48. She actually thought that story about killing a dog made her sound strong and decisive.
Sun Apr 28, 2024, 11:50 PM
Apr 28

That's why she put it in her book. She cray!

no_hypocrisy

(46,312 posts)
57. Excuse the pun: Her stunt backfired on her.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 06:37 AM
Apr 29

Specifically, I believe that Noem was attempting to be a younger, newer Sarah Palin. An attractive woman who shoots guns. Get that NRA vote.

My contention is that she didn't count on MAGA voters loving their dogs more than their guns.

Botany

(70,657 posts)
64. What about the 19% who don't disapprove of her shooting the family dog?
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 08:41 AM
Apr 29

We have some truly screwed up people in America.

Btw I don’t think that was Governor Kristi’s 1st rodeo as per shooting pets
and or farm animals.

IronLionZion

(45,667 posts)
75. And she went back to her truck to get more shells. 2 weren't enough
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:23 PM
Apr 29

so that's why Republicans need assault rifles with high capacity magazines.

catbyte

(34,546 posts)
70. The fact that she thought it was a flex and an example of her "leadership qualities" shows just how sick she is.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 09:29 AM
Apr 29

A quote from a Raw Story article on it says everything about her:

"The fact is, South Dakota law states that dogs who attack and kill livestock can be put down," claimed Noem. "Given that Cricket had shown aggressive behavior toward people by biting them, I decided what I did. Whether running the ranch or in politics, I have never passed on my responsibilities to anyone else to handle. Even if it’s hard and painful. I followed the law and was being a responsible parent, dog owner, and neighbor. As I explained in the book, it wasn't easy. But often the easy way isn't the right way."

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Kristi, ASSHOLE, that pup didn't "attack livestock" and what creature wouldn't be aggressive around an evil thing like you? I'm sure she abused that poor pup prior to murdering it. And what about the goat? Was it also "attacking livestock?"

She's obscene.

Aristus

(66,530 posts)
74. She must have really thought that the Kills Things For Fun And Then Poses For Pics Party would really go for that.
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 12:09 PM
Apr 29

It's what happens when you double down on an intentionally cruel political agenda.

Turbineguy

(37,420 posts)
76. Trump did not shoot a puppy
Mon Apr 29, 2024, 02:49 PM
Apr 29

and killed a million Americans. Just think of how many more millions could die.

EndlessWire

(6,580 posts)
80. She's too stupid
Tue Apr 30, 2024, 12:56 AM
Apr 30

to be a leader of anything. Didn't she say something about us not knowing the difference between a farm animal and a pet? That it's okay to shoot farm animals? Well, we know the difference between cold-hearted bitches and people fit to be in office.

Dogs mature at different rates. If the puppy had a high prey drive, rehome it. And, who the hell claims to be a farmer, has goats and doesn't know anything about them? She just wants to compete with those Trump boys, who shoot big game animals for no reason other than the thrill of killing. That's so disgusting. I don't understand why she's bragging about this stuff.

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