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Judi Lynn

(160,608 posts)
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 05:27 AM Apr 20

Man Dies After Setting Himself On Fire Outside Trump Trial

Source: Newswe

Published Apr 20, 2024 at 4:52 AM EDT
Updated Apr 20, 2024 at 5:05 AM EDT

Aman who set himself on fire on Friday outside the courthouse where Donald Trump's hush money trial is taking place has died, police said.

The New York City Police Department said the man, who was identified as Maxwell Azzarello from Florida, was declared dead by staff at a hospital in the area, accordiekng to NBC News.

Azzarello was seen entering Collect Pond Park in Manhattan around 1.30 p.m. on Friday, before taking out pamphlets espousing conspiracy theories and tossing them around. He subsequently doused himself in an accelerant and set himself on fire.

Azzarello was transported to a nearby hospital in critical condition, the NYPD said.

This is a breaking story. More to follow.



Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/maxwell-azzarello-dies-set-himself-fire-outside-donald-trump-trial-new-york-1892464?piano_t=1

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Man Dies After Setting Himself On Fire Outside Trump Trial (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 20 OP
Untreated mental illness is heartbreaking Bucky Apr 20 #1
Was his suicide related to the Trump trial? Or was he simply looking for a large "audience" * Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #2
Definitely the later, having skimmed his manifesto. Extreme altered mental status tragedy. keopeli Apr 20 #3
His car has anti Trump-and anti-Hillary stuff painted on the back of it. 3Hotdogs Apr 20 #4
Here he is holding a sign just before he set himself on fire. onenote Apr 20 #11
Yes, that's what I read. He lumps TSF and Biden together and thinks the whole system is a cabal to control the world. keopeli Apr 20 #12
If You Really Believe that Trump and Biden Are in Cahoots with Each Other to Take Over the Country, panfluteman Apr 20 #22
well prodigitalson Apr 20 #36
Using coup as a verb is uncommon in the US (but common in Scotland). nt Shermann Apr 20 #28
Thinking that cartoon character Lisa Simpson is part of worldwide conspiracy is uncommon everywhere. onenote Apr 20 #30
I see. His manifesto lumped Biden and TSF together, saying they are in cahoots to control our lives and the world. keopeli Apr 20 #13
I thought Rebl2 Apr 20 #15
He thought that was how they were moving and hiding all the money. The world is a giant ponzi scheme, according to him. keopeli Apr 20 #17
Yes that Rebl2 Apr 20 #19
His manifesto was definitely not pro-TSF. He hated all the politicians. keopeli Apr 20 #14
I saw that, too BigmanPigman Apr 20 #23
This guy was clearly True Dough Apr 20 #27
You think this is "pro Trump"? onenote Apr 20 #32
Looks like he just wanted an audience and news cameras IronLionZion Apr 20 #44
What a sad and horrifying legacy to leave for his loved ones. Oopsie Daisy Apr 20 #45
Died for less than nothing. DinahMoeHum Apr 20 #5
Think of it as evolution in action. bluescribbler Apr 20 #6
Yes, the Darwin award in action. Too bad he couldn't take a lot of MAGAT politicians with him. machoneman Apr 20 #8
Draw another line directly from Trump.....n/t Bengus81 Apr 20 #7
This man needed help. hadEnuf Apr 20 #9
He was upset about privatization of industry, the destruction of society's safety net, and military spending. onenote Apr 20 #31
Who do you think has set the political climate to the insanity that it is today? Who has brought wild conspiracy theory hadEnuf Apr 20 #42
This had nothing to do with trump. The man was sick. oldsoftie Apr 20 #20
Yes, he was severely mentally ill, it appears. Elessar Zappa Apr 20 #21
Sometimes life sucks. This is sometimes. twodogsbarking Apr 20 #10
Hopefully he finds peace in the afterlife because he didn't have it in this one. appleannie1 Apr 20 #16
Sad for the loss of life. But a very painful way to go. Depending on the severity of the burns, death was merciful. usaf-vet Apr 20 #18
He thought everything was a Ponzi scheme bucolic_frolic Apr 20 #24
it'spossible you are over thinking this prodigitalson Apr 20 #26
He's the one who called it a Ponzi scheme. bucolic_frolic Apr 20 #29
hellova way to get out of jury duty prodigitalson Apr 20 #25
Not funny. COL Mustard Apr 20 #33
your mileage may vary prodigitalson Apr 20 #34
I'm all for gallows humor COL Mustard Apr 20 #37
we are all in this together prodigitalson Apr 20 #38
May this mentally disturbed person rest in peace LetMyPeopleVote Apr 20 #35
Didn't sound like he would survive Warpy Apr 20 #39
Tragic. Sounds like the mis-information silos were internalized. So truly sad. Evolve Dammit Apr 20 #40
I think we'll forget all about him and his 'manifesto' by Monday. 4lbs Apr 20 #41
Any comment I could make would be superfluous, and possibly removed. n/t malthaussen Apr 20 #43
tragic Skittles Apr 20 #46
The poor guy did attract a lot of attention. I think the MAGA folks should give it a try in mass gatherings. OverBurn Apr 21 #47

Bucky

(54,053 posts)
1. Untreated mental illness is heartbreaking
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 05:33 AM
Apr 20

Fuck Trump for exploiting these people.

Of course untreated mental illness in New York penthouses and Florida mcmansions is also sad. But less tragic

Oopsie Daisy

(2,674 posts)
2. Was his suicide related to the Trump trial? Or was he simply looking for a large "audience" *
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 07:31 AM
Apr 20

* and collection of reporters to witness his self immolation... and to draw attention to whatever his flyers were about.

3Hotdogs

(12,405 posts)
4. His car has anti Trump-and anti-Hillary stuff painted on the back of it.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:09 AM
Apr 20

Last edited Sat Apr 20, 2024, 06:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Video on CNN last night, interviewed his Florida neighbors.

onenote

(42,753 posts)
11. Here he is holding a sign just before he set himself on fire.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:16 AM
Apr 20
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keopeli

(3,524 posts)
12. Yes, that's what I read. He lumps TSF and Biden together and thinks the whole system is a cabal to control the world.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:26 AM
Apr 20

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
22. If You Really Believe that Trump and Biden Are in Cahoots with Each Other to Take Over the Country,
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 12:23 PM
Apr 20

Then you would really see absolutely no hope for the future. Thank God that we all here at DU see that there is only one fascist coup plotter - Donald Trump - and his allies and enablers.

By the way, regarding the talk about RFK Jr. being in the presidential race to hand the election to Trump, is there any solid evidence to support this? What would be his motives for wanting to do so? Or is it a guilt by association thing with you all, as in two crazy anti-vaxxer birds of a feather flock together? Or is it simply a case of some shadowy right wing billionaire paying RFK Jr. enough money to make it worth his while to run, as in everyone has their price?

onenote

(42,753 posts)
30. Thinking that cartoon character Lisa Simpson is part of worldwide conspiracy is uncommon everywhere.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 02:19 PM
Apr 20

But that's what he thought.

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
13. I see. His manifesto lumped Biden and TSF together, saying they are in cahoots to control our lives and the world.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:27 AM
Apr 20

keopeli

(3,524 posts)
17. He thought that was how they were moving and hiding all the money. The world is a giant ponzi scheme, according to him.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:19 AM
Apr 20

Oopsie Daisy

(2,674 posts)
45. What a sad and horrifying legacy to leave for his loved ones.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 08:02 PM
Apr 20

They'll never get over it and long after we've forgotten his name or his "cause"... his cousins and other relatives will still be talking about it.

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
9. This man needed help.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 10:04 AM
Apr 20

But instead he got Fox news, Hannity, Alex Jones, Trump and the rest of the right-wing terrorist propaganda mongers.

But I'm sure they are that disappointed that he didn't go into the courthouse shooting and instead took it out on himself.

onenote

(42,753 posts)
31. He was upset about privatization of industry, the destruction of society's safety net, and military spending.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 02:24 PM
Apr 20

Does that sound like someone who is spouting Fox News propaganda?

From his manifesto: "In the decades since [the election of George H.W. Bush], the angry partisanship between democrats and republicans was all a fascist charade to divide the public against itself while they all ramped up militarism, privatized industry, and gutted social safety nets. Bush, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden: These are characters playing pretend, just like professional wrestlers."

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
42. Who do you think has set the political climate to the insanity that it is today? Who has brought wild conspiracy theory
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 06:36 PM
Apr 20

to the point of absolute reality for those who are susceptible to it?

The whole system of disinformation is designed get these types of violent results, no matter who's side you are on. I'm pointing out the originators and the ones who continue to perpetuate the propaganda and disinformation. I don't think they really care whether a liberal or right-winger sets themself on fire as long as the goal of creating havoc is reached.

oldsoftie

(12,591 posts)
20. This had nothing to do with trump. The man was sick.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 20

Apparently he disliked trump & Biden both along with a whole lot of other stuff

Elessar Zappa

(14,039 posts)
21. Yes, he was severely mentally ill, it appears.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:47 AM
Apr 20

We need a much better system for the identification and treatment of mental illness.

usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
18. Sad for the loss of life. But a very painful way to go. Depending on the severity of the burns, death was merciful.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 11:24 AM
Apr 20

bucolic_frolic

(43,270 posts)
24. He thought everything was a Ponzi scheme
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 01:20 PM
Apr 20

To some degree it probably is, society is built on multiple hierarchies, there's always a top dog if only temporarily. He thought money created crypto and crypto bitcoin, and they were Ponzi schemes. To some degree probably true, it's the basis for double entry bookkeeping and fractional reserve banking. But without all these things, you don't have much. It is sad that he went bonkers over it.

prodigitalson

(2,428 posts)
34. your mileage may vary
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 02:55 PM
Apr 20

Gal·lows hu·mor
/ˈɡalōz ˈ h)yo͞omər/
noun
1.
grim and ironic humor in a desperate or hopeless situation.

COL Mustard

(5,921 posts)
37. I'm all for gallows humor
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 03:20 PM
Apr 20

As long as it's abstract. I use it a lot but not for other actual people, just for myself.

prodigitalson

(2,428 posts)
38. we are all in this together
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 03:21 PM
Apr 20

edited to say: we are all standing on the gallows that is this upcoming election, praying for a last minute reprieve from the fascistic drop. this man's fiery death occurred fully within that context..

Warpy

(111,336 posts)
39. Didn't sound like he would survive
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 04:01 PM
Apr 20

since he was fully engulfed and they had so much trouble extinguishing the fire.

This is just sad, probably another person who fell down the rabbit hole during Covid and never managed to find his way out.

His manifesto was just generally anti government, not pro TFG, by the way. He mentioned Ponzi schemes, so maybe he got conned into investing his retirement in something like crypto and lost it all and was angry about a government that failed to protect the vulnerable from the vultures. If that was the case, I wholeheartedly agree.

4lbs

(6,861 posts)
41. I think we'll forget all about him and his 'manifesto' by Monday.
Sat Apr 20, 2024, 05:04 PM
Apr 20

Good job.

The real burning question is....

OverBurn

(957 posts)
47. The poor guy did attract a lot of attention. I think the MAGA folks should give it a try in mass gatherings.
Sun Apr 21, 2024, 01:05 AM
Apr 21
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