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brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:14 PM Mar 21

Trump Told Pence Certifying Election Would Be 'Career Killer,' Valet Testified

Source: New York Times

The threat from President Donald J. Trump to his vice president, Mike Pence, was clear and direct: If you defy my effort to overturn the 2020 election by certifying the results, your future in Republican politics is over.

“Mike, this is a political career killer if you do this,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Pence by phone on the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, according to the White House valet who was with the president for much of the day and told Congress he had overheard the conversation.

The testimony of Mr. Trump’s valet, provided to the now-defunct House Jan. 6 Committee in 2022 but not previously released publicly, offers a rare firsthand look into the former president’s behavior in the hours before, during and after a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol seeking to halt the certification of President Biden’s victory.

In the valet’s account, laid out in a transcript obtained by The New York Times, an agitated Mr. Trump pressured Mr. Pence to overturn the election and stewed about Mr. Pence’s refusal for hours after violence engulfed Congress. Told that a civilian had been shot outside the House chamber amid the mob attack, he recalled, Mr. Trump appeared unconcerned.

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marble falls

(57,097 posts)
1. More accurately, being involved in any way with TFG is career killer. Pence's career was marked as soon as he fell ...
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 21

... in with TFG crime family.

ColinC

(8,299 posts)
5. Evidence suggests republicans aligned with Trump have thrived over the last 8 years or so.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 06:57 PM
Mar 21

I hope that changes soon, though.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
7. Al Capone thrived for about 8 years or so, spent 8 years or so in Alcatraz, got released early and died ...
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 07:05 PM
Mar 21

... 4 or 5 years later of syphilis. Sounds like the career trajectory I'd like to see TFG have.

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
2. Pence signed on willingly.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:35 PM
Mar 21

He knew Trump was scum.

He stood beside Trump with that vapid look on his face.

I don't give a shit about him or mother.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
6. I wonder if Ashli Babbitt's mother has heard about TFG's indifference to her death
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 07:00 PM
Mar 21

I don't wonder if it would change her mind about the cult, though.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
9. Pence is likely waiting for TFG to be broken beyond repair
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 07:20 PM
Mar 21

and then the boks are going to start to come out. They will be juicy.

NanaCat

(1,135 posts)
13. It never occurs to this amoral walking toxic sludge
Fri Mar 22, 2024, 03:42 AM
Mar 22

That not everyone will mow over anyone who gets in their way. Some people might actually care about doing what's right, or hard, or even what's best for others, than they do about what can get them a win, no matter what.

There's very little on which I agree with Mike Pence, and I find even less that is respectable about him. But what he did on J6--that was a moment when he managed to show more spine and love for his country than anything he'd ever done before in his life. He came through when his country needed him.

For that, I commend him. It may have killed his career in the present, but he will win in the long run--because history will remember him far better than they'll remember TSF.

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