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BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:48 AM Mar 20

Donald Trump Suffers Brutal Florida Primary Vote Against Him

Source: Newsweek

Published Mar 20, 2024 at 3:56 AM EDT


Donald Trump suffered a blow in Tuesday's primary in Florida, a state he only narrowly won in the 2020 presidential election, after thousands of Republicans refused to vote for him.

While the former president won the primary with 910,857 votes, 81.2 percent of the overall share, some 197,000 people, or 17.8 percent, voted for either Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis, despite both candidates having dropped out of the race.

The results suggest the former president is losing support in Florida compared with the previous election in 2020. That year, he won about 94 percent of the state vote in the primary.

The Republican went on to take the state in 2020 by a slim margin, securing 51.2 percent of the vote to Joe Biden's 47.9 percent. Newsweek contacted a representative for Trump by email to comment on this story.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-florida-republican-primary-vote-nikki-haley-ron-desantis-1881143



ALL of the M$M should be using blaring headlines like this against 45 and also include phrases like "WARNING SIGNS" to highlight what just happened yesterday in the same manner that they celebrated "uncommitted" against Biden and Democrats.
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Donald Trump Suffers Brutal Florida Primary Vote Against Him (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 20 OP
Any headline which starts with "Donald Trump Suffers..." BigmanPigman Mar 20 #1
Suggesting TSF will not gather the vote totals he did in 2020 bucolic_frolic Mar 20 #2
One message should be "Stability" LiberalFighter Mar 20 #6
"If things are looking up in OH and FL we are making progress." BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #7
They killed alot of their own people with covid. Their own people are the ones still dying form covid because they onecaliberal Mar 20 #21
The DNC is actively..... SergeStorms Mar 20 #33
Biden wins by double digits in Nov. Pototan Mar 20 #3
Yes he will - our job is to get the vote out FakeNoose Mar 20 #29
Also, the voters have to WTFU Pototan Mar 20 #39
Blue up and down the ballot. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 20 #4
I'm for it, but sadly, I don't see it happening..... lastlib Mar 20 #14
According to Cook Political report there are 3 tossups in the Senate that are a must win if JohnSJ Mar 20 #16
"Arizonia" BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #20
Without a doubt. It is still rated as tossup at this point in time by most polls, but it can be done. JohnSJ Mar 20 #22
"and help us with the probable loss of Manchin" Polybius Mar 20 #28
Arizona and Ohio will elect Democratic Senators, don't know about Montana FakeNoose Mar 20 #30
I'm optimistic about Ohio after watching Lawrence O'Donnell last night. ShazzieB Mar 20 #31
I too hope for the best ClaudetteCC Mar 20 #18
Yabbut, the NYT probably has the deadline "Trump Sweeps Florida" Novara Mar 20 #5
18% of those who took time to vote chose people no longer in the race. mpcamb Mar 20 #8
good point I haven't heard discussed...that many primary voters probably didn't vote because wiggs Mar 20 #17
Could these people have voted for Haley before she dropped out? Bayard Mar 20 #25
And Florida is a closed Primary state, so Trump can't blame Democrats.... 70sEraVet Mar 20 #9
Except for those who switched parties temporarily Geechie Mar 20 #10
Thanks, Geech 70sEraVet Mar 20 #11
I would think that would amount to a tiny % BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #12
Aren't there stats on switching parties? DLCWIdem Mar 20 #15
Congrats to Newsweek for being straight forward, telling it like it is. Fla Dem Mar 20 #13
Florida is definitely in play. Not only can Biden win the state, but we could take a Senate seat. patphil Mar 20 #19
HuffPo had a good one too RussBLib Mar 20 #23
Yup BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #24
Prophetic....he's calling his own fate...."it's going to be a blood bath." PortTack Mar 20 #26
There is Trump fatigue throughout the land. CrispyQ Mar 20 #27
I wonder if any exit polls are asking Tree Lady Mar 20 #32
ABC had one last night that had some details like that for OH BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #34
To know him is to loathe him Warpy Mar 20 #35
Meanwhile, since the DNC canceled the Dem primary, TONS of republican got elected oldsoftie Mar 20 #36
As a FYI, that "cancel" was ONLY for the PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY in FL BumRushDaShow Mar 20 #38
Correct, but a lot of local races were held THIS week & Dem turnout was pitiful. oldsoftie Mar 21 #40
I dug around and found the election calendar (county/municipal) BumRushDaShow Mar 21 #41
It sure looks like Blue Idaho Mar 20 #37
I hope these folks again vote the same in Nov. riversedge Mar 21 #42

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
2. Suggesting TSF will not gather the vote totals he did in 2020
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:09 AM
Mar 20

Biden needs to prevent inroads to his totals in swing states and among minority voters. If things are looking up in OH and FL we are making progress. Take those 2 states and it's just about game over. But of course, we're 8 months out, lots can happen.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
7. "If things are looking up in OH and FL we are making progress."
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:30 AM
Mar 20

I don't expect to take OH or FL this go-around but the Haley vote seems to have been consistent across the states that still have her on the ballot and that potentially indicates a similar % in support of her (or other non-45 candidate) in other states (like here in PA) that have yet to vote.

I.e., even if 1/2 of those voters either leave the top of the ticket blank, stay home, or vote for Biden, that helps to solidify the swing states to hold for Biden this year.

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
21. They killed alot of their own people with covid. Their own people are the ones still dying form covid because they
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:48 AM
Mar 20

refused to vaccinate.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
33. The DNC is actively.....
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 02:26 PM
Mar 20

courting the Latino vote this year, which could be extremely important in Florida!

Take Florida out of Trump's column and he's humiliated.

Pototan

(1,124 posts)
3. Biden wins by double digits in Nov.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:09 AM
Mar 20

If minorities and young voters come home.

All we have to do is re-convince our base, the actual people we're fighting for, to vote in their own best interest.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
29. Yes he will - our job is to get the vote out
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 01:59 PM
Mar 20

Biden will win his 2nd term, and Dems will control the House and the Senate.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
14. I'm for it, but sadly, I don't see it happening.....
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 09:06 AM
Mar 20

At this moment, our odds of holding the Senate are not good. (and we can't blame it on gerrymandering--it's just luck of the cycle, when more Dems are up for election, and we don't have good chances in some key states.) I think we can take the House, though--it seems people are tiired of GOPee incompetence, and a lot of seats will flip to D. I hope for the best, but preparing for the worst.

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
16. According to Cook Political report there are 3 tossups in the Senate that are a must win if
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:03 AM
Mar 20

we want to hold onto the Senate.

Those are the following states:

Arizonia
Ohio
Montana

Those are must wins for us to even have a chance in the Senate.

I we are able to pull off Texas against Cruz, and Florida, against Scott, which are rated as likely republican, that would change the entire dynamic, and help us with the probable loss of Manchin.

Anyway you look at it this is going to be a very close election, and require a lot of work and luck.

It is still hard for me to believe that we have a country that has presented a racist, sexist, bigot, and someone who tried to overthrow our Democracy as a viable candidate.

We will need a massive voter turnout, especially among Democrats, women, minorities and young people to vote straight Democratic up and down the ballot, along with halley supporters or republicans who will not vote for trump.

It is far from hopeless as long as we have a good turnout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_Senate_elections




FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
30. Arizona and Ohio will elect Democratic Senators, don't know about Montana
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 02:03 PM
Mar 20

But I have this nagging feeling about Texas. I think Cruz is gonna lose. Colin Allred will be the next Dem Senator from Texas.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
31. I'm optimistic about Ohio after watching Lawrence O'Donnell last night.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 02:08 PM
Mar 20

Sherrod Brown, who Lawrence had on as a guest, is running for reelection to his 4th term in the Senate. His opponent, Bernie Moreno, is an insane Trumper who supports all the usual Trumpy stuff, including being anti-abortion.

Remember the vote in Ohio to enshrine reproductive rights in the state constitution? I don't know much about Moreno, but it seems to me that his position on abortion will not make him popular with a lot of Ohio voters, especially women.

Here's a sample of Moreno's blather, from last month: MAGA Candidate Says Women Need Help With Strollers, Not Abortion

I'll be biting my nails until the election results are in, but I feel pretty good about Brown's chances.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
5. Yabbut, the NYT probably has the deadline "Trump Sweeps Florida"
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 06:57 AM
Mar 20

Realistically, the only candidate still running should be getting upwards of 90% of the votes in primaries.

Getting only 80% when you're the only one running in your party is absolutely HORRIBLE.

This made my day.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
8. 18% of those who took time to vote chose people no longer in the race.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:54 AM
Mar 20

...not a sterling performance.

wiggs

(7,813 posts)
17. good point I haven't heard discussed...that many primary voters probably didn't vote because
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:26 AM
Mar 20

they weren't going to vote for Trump but didn't need to take time to not vote for the primary winner. The overall percentage of non trump republican votes is probably higher than recorded yesterday.

70sEraVet

(3,501 posts)
9. And Florida is a closed Primary state, so Trump can't blame Democrats....
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 08:21 AM
Mar 20

with voting as Republican to screw with his numbers.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
12. I would think that would amount to a tiny %
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 08:33 AM
Mar 20

as there are requirements for when that needs to be done before a primary.

patphil

(6,176 posts)
19. Florida is definitely in play. Not only can Biden win the state, but we could take a Senate seat.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:39 AM
Mar 20

Rick Scott is vulnerable, and a Biden win could bring in enough votes to unseat him.

RussBLib

(9,012 posts)
23. HuffPo had a good one too
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 11:16 AM
Mar 20

Nice quote: "The American people are tired of Trump's grifting, indecency and criminality."

Ex-GOP Lawmaker Spots 'Badddddd Sign' For Trump Hidden In Latest Numbers

Adam Kinzinger taunted "Chief Whiney" over results in Tuesday's primaries.

Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) said Donald Trump’s victory in Tuesday night’s Republican primaries across multiple states comes with some serious red flags.

While the former president won handily in Florida, Ohio, Arizona, Kansas and Illinois, the number of people who turned out to vote against him was unusually high ― especially given that all of his rivals have quit the race, Kinzinger said.

Trump won about 81% of the vote in Florida, 79% in Ohio, 81% in Illinois, 78% in Arizona and 76% in Kansas, based on results early Wednesday from The Associated Press.

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who dropped out two weeks ago, won 14 to 20% of the vote over those states.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-primary-warning-sign_n_65fa7ffce4b0947e4200a83d

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
24. Yup
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 11:29 AM
Mar 20

It's fascinating to see a consistent percent who have voted for "someone else" (mostly Haley who has dropped out), across multiple states.

And it's coming out to be twice as many (%-wise) who did this against 45, than the media narrative's "uncommitted" voters against Biden.

But when it comes to the M$M's reports on this? *crickets*

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
27. There is Trump fatigue throughout the land.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 12:30 PM
Mar 20

Even folks who don't hate him are tired of him. And a whole bunch are sick of the whining & how everything bad that happens to him is someone else's fault.

Tree Lady

(11,468 posts)
32. I wonder if any exit polls are asking
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 02:22 PM
Mar 20

the voters who voted for someone besides Trump if they will vote for Joe, 3rd party, not at all or Trump.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
34. ABC had one last night that had some details like that for OH
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 02:44 PM
Mar 20
Nearly half of Haley voters in Ohio say they'd back Biden: Preliminary exit polls


By Gary Langer, Christine Filer, and David Sichinava
March 19, 2024, 10:04 PM


Two in 10 to as many as three in 10 Republican primary voters in Ohio continue to resist Donald Trump’s presidential candidacy -- and among those supporting Nikki Haley, nearly half say they’d back Joe Biden in November, according to preliminary exit poll results from the Republican primary.

While majorities in preliminary exit poll data express loyalty toward Trump, the extent of intraparty challenges may matter in what’s expected to be a close contest in November. Despite his having sewn up the nomination, 20% of Ohio GOP primary voters would be dissatisfied with Trump as the nominee, 22% say he lacks the temperament to serve effectively, and 28% say he wouldn’t be fit for office if convicted of a crime.

At the end of the day, 18% say they wouldn’t support Trump in November, with 10% of that number preferring Biden and 8% saying they wouldn’t vote for either. Nationally, 6% of Republicans voted for Biden in 2020. Nonparticipation by some Republicans would be a further risk for Trump.

Much of the criticism of Trump comes from Haley voters, who turned out despite her departure from the race. (Absentee voting in Ohio opened Feb. 21, two weeks before Haley suspended her campaign.) Among her supporters, 88% would be dissatisfied with Trump as the nominee, 91% say he lacks the temperament for office, and 88% say he’d be unfit if convicted. Eight in 10 say they wouldn’t vote for him in the general election, with 47% preferring Biden and 32% saying they wouldn’t vote for either candidate. Just 18% of Haley voters say they’d vote for Trump in the fall. Sixty percent of Haley voters also call the Republican Party “too conservative,” as did 19% of GOP primary voters in these preliminary exit poll results.

(snip)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/half-haley-voters-ohio-back-biden/story?id=108290136


The 2020 election saw surges of voters for both parties (thankfully more for (D)s than (R)s by a significant amount - at least for the total popular vote) and I think that (R) surge will be history.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
35. To know him is to loathe him
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 20

He is never going to generate overwhelming enthusiasm in any state he's spent considerable time in.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
36. Meanwhile, since the DNC canceled the Dem primary, TONS of republican got elected
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:07 PM
Mar 20

GREAT job DNC. Really GREAT job. Now even a lot of BLUE areas have local positions controlled by the GOP

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
38. As a FYI, that "cancel" was ONLY for the PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY in FL
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:38 PM
Mar 20

(Delaware did the same thing)

Democrats in FL have their OTHER PRIMARIES scheduled to be held AUGUST 20, 2024 based on this - https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_Party_primaries_in_Florida,_2024

I didn't realize that some states separated them out like that until I saw that was done for Colorado since they were moved up to be an early state in the primary process, but ONLY for the Presidential primary (other races optional based on the state law, including the Congressional races as some of us have been monitoring Boebert's race).

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
40. Correct, but a lot of local races were held THIS week & Dem turnout was pitiful.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 06:06 AM
Mar 21

So now a lot more council seats, board seats, commission seats, etc are now held by republicans than would normally be the case.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
41. I dug around and found the election calendar (county/municipal)
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 06:41 AM
Mar 21
https://dos.elections.myflorida.com/calendar/

Dates for Local Elections

To find elections scheduled solely within your county, select a county and calendar year below. For the most up-to-date information about elections in your county, please contact your Supervisor of Elections.

All 2024 Election Dates Date Jurisdiction Election Type County
01/16/24 State House District 35 Special Election Orange
03/12/24 Town of LaCrosse Municipal Alachua
03/19/24 City of Maitland Municipal Orange
03/19/24 Town of Eatonville Municipal Orange
03/19/24 City of Ocoee Municipal Orange
03/19/24 City of Winter Garden Municipal Orange
03/19/24 Juno Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Jupiter Inlet Colony Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Lake Park Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Lake Worth Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Lantana Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Loxahatchee Groves Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 North Palm Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Ocean Ridge Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Pahokee Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Palm Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Palm Beach Gardens Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Riviera Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Royal Palm Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 South Bay Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Tequesta Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Wellington Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 West Palm Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Belle Glade Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Boca Raton Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Delray Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Greenacres Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Highland Beach Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 Hypoluxo Municipal Palm Beach
03/19/24 City of Belleair Beach Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Clearwater Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Gulfport Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Indian Rocks Beach Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 Town of Indian Shores Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 Town of Kenneth City Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Madeira Beach Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Oldsmar Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Pinellas Park Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Safety Harbor Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 City of Treasure Island Municipal Pinellas
03/19/24 Holiday Park and Recreation District Special District Sarasota
03/19/24 Tri-Par Estates Park and Recreation District Special District Sarasota
03/26/24 City of High Springs Special Election Alachua
04/02/24 Plant City Municipal Hillsborough
04/02/24 City of Cedar Key Municipal Levy
04/02/24 Cedar Key Water & Sewer District Special District Levy
04/02/24 City of Chiefland Municipal Levy
04/02/24 Town of Inglis Municipal Levy
04/02/24 Town of Otter Creek Municipal Levy
04/02/24 City of Williston Municipal Levy
04/02/24 Town of Yankeetown Municipal Levy
04/03/24 Town of Reddick Municipal Marion
04/09/24 City of Alachua Municipal Alachua
04/09/24 Town of Orange Park Special Election Clay
04/09/24 City of Keystone Heights Mail Ballot Referendum Clay
04/09/24 Town of Orange Park General Election Clay
04/09/24 Cottondale City Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Graceville City Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Grand Ridge Town Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Marianna City Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Malone Town Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Sneads City Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 Alford Town Election Special Election Jackson
04/09/24 City of Dade City Municipal Pasco
04/09/24 City of New Port Richey Municipal Pasco
04/09/24 City of Port Richey Municipal Pasco
04/09/24 City of San Antonio Municipal Pasco
04/09/24 Town of St Leo Municipal Pasco
04/09/24 City of Zephyrhills Municipal Pasco
04/16/24 Town of Iglis Runoff Levy
04/23/24 City of Archer Runoff Alachua
04/23/24 City of Cedar Key Runoff Levy
04/23/24 City of Chiefland Runoff Levy
04/30/24 City of Alachua Runoff Alachua
04/30/24 City of Williston Runoff Levy
05/14/24 City of Keystone Heights (if needed) Runoff Clay
05/14/24 Town of Orange Park (if needed) Runoff Clay
05/21/24 City of Sanibel Special Election Lee
05/21/24 Captiva Erosion Protection Services Referendum Lee
05/28/24 Plant City Runoff Hillsborough
06/11/24 City of Hawthorne Municipal Alachua
06/25/24 City of Hawthorne Runoff Alachua
08/20/24 City of Gainesville Municipal Alachua
08/20/24 City of Cape Coral Primary Election Lee
08/20/24 City of Fort Myers Primary Election Lee
08/20/24 Okeechobee County - School Board Primary Election Okeechobee
08/20/24 Okeechobee County - County Commissioner Primary Election Okeechobee
08/20/24 City of St. Pete Beach Special Election Pinellas
08/20/24 City of St. Petersburg Primary Election Pinellas
08/20/24 City of North Port Municipal Sarasota
08/20/24 City of Sarasota Municipal Sarasota
08/20/24 City of Paxton Municipal Walton
10/01/24 City of Fanning Springs Municipal Levy
11/05/24 City of Gainesville Municipal Alachua
11/05/24 City of High Springs Municipal Alachua
11/05/24 City of Bonita Springs General Election Lee
11/05/24 City of Cape Coral General Election Lee
11/05/24 City of Fort Myers General Election Lee
11/05/24 Town of Fort Myers Beach General Election Lee
11/05/24 City of Fanning Springs Runoff Levy
11/05/24 Town of Dunnellon General Election Marion
11/05/24 Town of McIntosh General Election Marion
11/05/24 City of Belleview General Election Marion
11/05/24 Okeechobee County - County Commissioner General Election Okeechobee
11/05/24 City of Okeechobee - City Commissioner General Election Okeechobee
11/05/24 Okeechobee County - School Board General Election Okeechobee
11/05/24 City of St. Petersburg General Election Pinellas
11/05/24 City of Dunedin Municipal Pinellas
11/05/24 City of Largo Municipal Pinellas
11/05/24 City of Seminole Municipal Pinellas
11/05/24 Charter Review Board Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Hospital Board Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Blackburn Creek CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Bobcat Trail CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Lakeside Plantation CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Sarasota National CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Sarasota Soil and Water Conservation District Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Stoneybrook at Venice CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 The Woodlands CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Toscana Isles CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 Venetian CDD Special District Sarasota
11/05/24 City of North Port Municipal Sarasota
11/05/24 City of Sarasota Municipal Sarasota
11/05/24 City of Venice Municipal Sarasota
12/03/24 City of Waldo Municipal Alachua
12/17/24 City of Waldo Runoff Alachua


A bunch look to be small red municipalities, the issue, like other states, being where your Democratic population tends to be concentrated - in the bigger cities...

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
37. It sure looks like
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:35 PM
Mar 20

Something like 20% of die hard primary voting republicans will not vote for TFG no matter what. That’s great news for America!

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