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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:25 PM Mar 19

Kushner Pitches Moving Palestinians Out of Gaza's 'Valuable' Waterfront

Source: daily beast





When asked if Israel should allow a Palestinian state, Kushner said it was a “super bad idea.”

Edith Olmsted Updated Mar. 19, 2024 2:42PM EDT /


Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has offered his own solution to the mass bloodshed and displacement in Gaza: some good, old-fashioned real estate development.

During an interview with Tarek Masoud, the faculty chair of Harvard’s Middle East Initiative, Kushner proposed moving Palestinians to Israel’s arid desert region to “clean up” Gaza’s “valuable” waterfront.

“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable to—if people would focus on building up livelihoods,” Kushner said, without clarifying who exactly would profit off such a project. He added that the area could’ve had great potential if “all the money” in Gaza had gone into “education and innovation,” instead of its tunnel network and munitions.

Kushner’s statement comes on the heels of warnings from the United Nations that the people of Gaza are facing an “imminent famine” as Israel continues its offensive........................................

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jared-kushner-pitches-moving-palestinians-out-of-gazas-valuable-waterfront








What? So he can build apartments there?🤬Kushner Pitches Moving Palestinians Out of Gaza’s ‘Valuable’ Waterfront


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Kushner Pitches Moving Palestinians Out of Gaza's 'Valuable' Waterfront (Original Post) riversedge Mar 19 OP
Great place for Trump Wharf, ain't it? bucolic_frolic Mar 19 #1
Hey Democracy Now, and you "genocide Joe" imbeciles, keep pushing your anti-Biden, anti-Democratic party bullshit, and JohnSJ Mar 19 #2
Far Left sites specialize in attacking Biden while ignoring Trump. sop Mar 19 #5
Hello John. If you are ever interested in how the American left got the way it is, there is a great book PatrickforB Mar 19 #25
"...Trump bringing Manafort back because he can't pay the bond for his half-billion judgement and needs sop Mar 20 #39
Thank You! Cha Mar 19 #31
Yes! The "Democracy Now" folks are NOT friends of the Democratic party or Joe Biden. Oopsie Daisy Mar 20 #40
They believe the Democratic Party is the biggest roadblock to revolution utopia and must be destroyed. betsuni Mar 20 #43
They are as anti-Democrat as many RW sources are. I do not know why anyone posts that crap here * Oopsie Daisy Mar 20 #44
This! mcar Mar 20 #42
"You can almost see Albania!" Kid Berwyn Mar 19 #3
But hey, that strip of desert will be theirs..... getagrip_already Mar 19 #4
Breaking News: Jared Kushner is a dipshit douchebag JoseBalow Mar 19 #6
People are calling Kushner's proposal Ethnic Cleansing. sop Mar 19 #7
Totally agree, he's disgusting! He works for the Saudi government, they must want it? Hikerchick57 Mar 19 #22
There are smart sociopaths who know how others feel... dchill Mar 19 #8
They don't know how others feel NanaCat Mar 19 #34
Just like his Florida property. Basic LA Mar 19 #9
It's helpful to read all of his comments to put it in context. maxsolomon Mar 19 #10
He's saying let's move the people out now, and see what happens later. Earth-shine Mar 19 #11
As I said, he is an idiot. maxsolomon Mar 19 #14
And he thinks we're idiots, which is why he says these things. Earth-shine Mar 19 #15
I think he believes what he's saying. maxsolomon Mar 19 #18
This is what i thought TheRealNorth Mar 19 #30
Just what Netanyahu wants. Ojerly Mar 19 #12
Kushner says the quiet part out loud. Earth-shine Mar 19 #16
Why would you ask this slumlord ANYTHING??? NM Grins Mar 19 #13
What a ghoul Afrocat Mar 19 #17
Kushner is pushing "ethnic cleansing" of the Gaza shoreline Bluejeans Mar 19 #19
Yep Hikerchick57 Mar 19 #24
We hates them, Precious. Hissssss. We wants the land. mike_c Mar 19 #20
The only way to peace is a two state solution. EndlessWire Mar 19 #21
He's saying the quiet part out loud: this "war" is for the purpose of a land grab. Merlot Mar 19 #23
A "Killers of the Flower Moon" type story repeated many times throughout history. barbaraann Mar 19 #26
Kushner proving once again that he is a giant douche nozzle. cstanleytech Mar 19 #27
Did you know that Jared's father and Bibi are BFs? no_hypocrisy Mar 19 #28
Wny is this slimeball suddenly all over the media again? niyad Mar 19 #29
Why would anyone ask him? How did he become a person who is asked about this? Scrivener7 Mar 19 #32
It's a diplomatic miracle! Why didn't anyone think of this before??????? Ford_Prefect Mar 19 #33
Does he still think he's in charge of solving "the Middle East crisis??" Rhiannon12866 Mar 19 #35
He thinks there is a real killing to be made in real estate development. Aussie105 Mar 20 #36
Bibi and crew have always wanted the water! PortTack Mar 20 #37
I vote for chaining him to the ground in the desert and letting nature take over. twodogsbarking Mar 20 #38
Jared's soaring monument Codifer Mar 20 #45
Excuse me Mad_Machine76 Mar 20 #41
A buck could maybe made there and Kusher wants to make it. republianmushroom Mar 20 #46
The Trump Organization will develop all the the oceanfront property. sop Mar 21 #48
Corrupt blood lust. Bluethroughu Mar 20 #47

JohnSJ

(92,190 posts)
2. Hey Democracy Now, and you "genocide Joe" imbeciles, keep pushing your anti-Biden, anti-Democratic party bullshit, and
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:29 PM
Mar 19

you'll achieve just what you did in 2016, except this time, there will be no do overs.




PatrickforB

(14,574 posts)
25. Hello John. If you are ever interested in how the American left got the way it is, there is a great book
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 06:04 PM
Mar 19

by a guy named Rhyd Wildermuth. It is called Here Be Monsters: How to Fight Capitalism Instead of Each Other. Here's a link - it is well worth reading: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=here+be+monsters+rhyd+wildermuth&gad_source=1&hvadid=676115030362&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9028759&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=7680057743467184342&hvtargid=kwd-2226290391539&hydadcr=22593_13531299&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_1a5iptns2n_e all the more so because it will make the average Democrat feel a bit uncomfortable. Which can be beneficial.

He gives an insider's blow-by-blow beginning in the 1999 WTO riots in Seattle. He speaks about how the traditional left was slowly co-opted by Goldman Sachs. Controversial? Yep.

But one of the main points he brings up is how the young-left has been shaped never, ever to question tactics. It is quite true the Israel government has systematically subjected Palestinians in Gaza to economic oppression - for example, there are reports that they ration electricity to four hours per day. Lots of stuff going on like that for many years.

But when Hamas did what it did on October 7, that organization proved itself as a terrorist group - hostages, killings, gang rapes. These things happened and Hamas is a bunch of dirt-bags.

However, again, the college-left has been carefully coached never to question tactics. So when Hamas did what it did and Bibi went in with guns blazing, that was a natural reaction. You have to remember, though, who is actually behind the current multi-billion dollar DEI 'industry.'

That's right! Goldman-Sachs and the rest of Wall Street. Shareholder primacy capitalism pollutes and destroys, decays everything it touches. Now, we see efforts to introduce more diversity into top management positions, which is great as far as it goes. But how does this help poor working people, no matter their race? Kids saddled with thousands in student debt? People going bankrupt from healthcare debt?

And to your point, how does this help the Palestinian civilians starving, and dying in Gaza as the war grinds on? And who benefits from reporting it, making a big deal out of it? Hint: Wall Street. Our 'media' is corporate-owned and publicly traded. This means the fiduciary responsibility of executive producers of 'news' shows is NOT truth in reporting. Ever.

Their ONLY fiduciary responsibility is to generate PROFITS for shareholders. Period. That's it. So they are pounding on a small, small movement, because they feel they can generate more profits for their shareholders (example, MSNBC is owned by Comcast, which is publicly traded) by creating controversy. Because controversy sells, horseraces sell, this is what we have.

If we successfully overturned the legal doctrine of shareholder primacy, and required CEOs of publicly traded companies to consider worker interests, consumer interests INCLUDING truth in news reporting, and the environment EQUAL to shareholder profits, and then enforced it, then we would solve a lot of problems right off the bat.

Unfortunately, we are in a race with time, with Trump bringing Manafort back because he can't pay the bond for his half-billion judgement and needs a cash infusion. Money is about to change hands, with the Kremlin and its allies financing Trump while his MAGATS work feverishly at the state and local levels to sabotage the 2024 election. If Trump wins, NATO will be betrayed and Putin will set off a devastating war in Europe. Poland is now building bomb shelters as we speak from fear of Putin. And the Republicans STILL won't fund Ukraine's continued defense because Trump has told them not to.

So you are quite right. The situation is dire and there won't be any redos if Trump wins.

sop

(10,177 posts)
39. "...Trump bringing Manafort back because he can't pay the bond for his half-billion judgement and needs
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 08:30 AM
Mar 20

a cash infusion. Money is about to change hands, with the Kremlin and its allies financing Trump..."

Great observation.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,621 posts)
40. Yes! The "Democracy Now" folks are NOT friends of the Democratic party or Joe Biden.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 10:23 AM
Mar 20

I believe they want to weaken and destroy the Democratic party. I do not understand this irrational way of thinking because a weakened and divided Democratic party only benefits the GOP. So why are they doing, saying, promoting things and tearing-down Biden (and other party leaders) with the full knowledge that this suppresses the votes for Democrats which helps Republicans? The "Democracy Now" folks aren't very smart in their political tactics, are they?

betsuni

(25,524 posts)
43. They believe the Democratic Party is the biggest roadblock to revolution utopia and must be destroyed.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:03 PM
Mar 20

Nutty.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,621 posts)
44. They are as anti-Democrat as many RW sources are. I do not know why anyone posts that crap here *
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:07 PM
Mar 20

* it's divisive and counterproductive and it only benefits the GOP, Trump, and Russia (yes, I know that's redundant).

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
4. But hey, that strip of desert will be theirs.....
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:34 PM
Mar 19

Of course there will no water, no power, no food. Just tents.

And walls. Very high walls.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
10. It's helpful to read all of his comments to put it in context.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:25 PM
Mar 19

He's not saying to expel Palestinians permanently & redevelop Gaza as a Trump resort. He's saying move the people out temporarily and finish the war with Hamas.

“It’s a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up,” Kushner said. “But I don’t think that Israel has stated that they don’t want the people to move back there afterwards.”


He said that if he were in charge of Israel his number one priority would be getting civilians out of the southern city of Rafah, and that “with diplomacy” it could be possible to get them into Egypt.

“But in addition to that, I would just bulldoze something in the Negev, I would try to move people in there,” he said. “I think that’s a better option, so you can go in and finish the job.”

He reiterated the point a little later, saying: “I do think right now opening up the Negev, creating a secure area there, moving the civilians out, and then going in and finishing the job would be the right move.”


Yes, he is an idiot.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
14. As I said, he is an idiot.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:47 PM
Mar 19
“I’m sitting in Miami Beach right now,” Kushner said. “And I’m looking at the situation and I’m thinking: what would I do if I was there?”

Asked by Masoud about fears on the part of Arabs in the region that the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, would not allow Palestinians who flee Gaza to return, Kushner paused and then said: “Maybe.”

He went on to say: “I am not sure there is much left of Gaza at this point. If you think about even the construct, Gaza was not really a historical precedent [sic]. It was the result of a war. You had tribes in different places and then Gaza became a thing. Egypt used to run it and then over time different governments came in.”

Responding to a question about whether the Palestinians should have their own state, Kushner described the proposal as “a super bad idea” that “would essentially be rewarding an act of terror”.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. I think he believes what he's saying.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:10 PM
Mar 19

He's steeped in this Right-Wing worldview - it's all Likudniks telling him how it works. He doesn't hear many counterarguments.

He's also not 100% wrong in his facts: Egypt did use to "run it". Yes, "different Governments" came in (the PA, then Hamas).

It's his conclusions that are flawed. Move 2 million people into the Negev after "bulldozing" a refuge? Then "clean up" Gaza? A 2-state solution is "super bad" because it's "rewarding terror"?

Ojerly

(15 posts)
12. Just what Netanyahu wants.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:44 PM
Mar 19

This has been the plan all along. Netanyahu let Hamas attack, and escape. That paved the way for him to demolish Gaza so the Palestinians had nothing to stay for.

Earth-shine

(4,012 posts)
16. Kushner says the quiet part out loud.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 04:57 PM
Mar 19

As if we didn't already know this was about a land grab.

Welcome to DU. I remember way back when I only had 7 posts. One day, you can be big like me.

Bluejeans

(68 posts)
19. Kushner is pushing "ethnic cleansing" of the Gaza shoreline
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 19

Plain and simple, Kushner is pushing "ethnic cleansing of the Gaza shoreline.

EndlessWire

(6,531 posts)
21. The only way to peace is a two state solution.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 19

Or, as I often say, a three state solution. Where does this "that would be rewarding bad acts" derive from? The whole world knows that what happened was butchery. Hamas should be annihilated. But, if you have a way to establish long term peace, take it! Don't hesitate just because you wish to punish bad acts. There's a lot at stake here.

You can't tell me that that the UN or a coalition of other countries couldn't create a security state for Palestinians. Kicking out Hamas from Gaza and the WB is going to take time. It is well worth it, of course. But first, Gaza should permanently separate from Israel.

It's easy to see what is going on. Why has this little twerp suddenly opened his mouth? He has cast eyes on the beach. The Palestinians have that interesting piece of property, and he'd like to get in there. Beach front property is always more valuable than miles of rubble.

Creating a new country for the Palestinians is a "super good idea." There, fixed it for you, Jared.

How come we don't hear the filthy rich Jared talking about feeding those starving children? How come we don't hear how he's sending a hospital ship to help out? No, he has to disgust us by casting eyes upon probably the best asset Gaza possesses: the beach.



And you know that once they're kicked out of Gaza, they will not be allowed back. So, STFU, Jared, Trump Crime Family member.

Rhiannon12866

(205,367 posts)
35. Does he still think he's in charge of solving "the Middle East crisis??"
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 11:32 PM
Mar 19

A little late, Jared. Or are you auditioning to reprise your former "job?"

Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
36. He thinks there is a real killing to be made in real estate development.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 12:01 AM
Mar 20

Ignoring the human cost this would involve, and what is currently happening to Donald.

twodogsbarking

(9,749 posts)
38. I vote for chaining him to the ground in the desert and letting nature take over.
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 08:30 AM
Mar 20

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Codifer

(546 posts)
45. Jared's soaring monument
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:31 PM
Mar 20

should be a pit. A very deep one. Throw what nature leaves there.

Then pee on it.

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