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BumRushDaShow

(128,988 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:21 PM Mar 19

Men used AR-style rifles to kill protected wild burros in Mojave Desert, federal prosecutors say

Source: CBS News

Updated on: March 19, 2024 / 11:22 AM EDT


Two men have pleaded guilty to federal criminal charges for fatally shooting three wild donkeys with AR-style rifles in Southern California's Mojave Desert, prosecutors said Monday.

The men, identified as Christopher James Arnet, 32, of Colorado, and Cameron John Feikema, 36, of California, said in their plea agreements that they drove out to the desert in Arnet's truck in November 2021. The area they drove to was public land in San Bernardino County, according to a news release from the U.S. District Attorney's Office for the Central District of California. When the men got out of the truck, they were dressed in tactical gear, including helmets with night-vision goggles, and carrying short-barreled AR-style firearms.

At around 1 a.m. local time, the two men fired on wild donkeys, or burros, killing three of the animals. One animal was paralyzed and in "severe pain before it died," prosecutors said. Each man fired multiple rounds, and Arnet fired the bullet that paralyzed one of the donkeys, according to an investigation by the Bureau of Land Management.

The firearms were later seized from the men's homes. Investigators found that the weapons were unregistered, despite requirements that they be registered under federal law.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-arnet-cameron-feikema-plead-guilty-killing-wild-burros-feds-say/

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Men used AR-style rifles to kill protected wild burros in Mojave Desert, federal prosecutors say (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 19 OP
This is a worry, a horror in the making. pandr32 Mar 19 #1
I don't want to misunderstand what you wrote, but on the surface it looks like you are defending the guys Escurumbele Mar 19 #13
Absolutely not! pandr32 Mar 19 #17
I don't think that is what they are saying PatSeg Mar 19 #19
It's perfectly reasonable that grown boys who squander hundreds of dollars on single purpose toys............ jaxexpat Mar 19 #33
Yes and it might start out fairly innocent PatSeg Mar 19 #45
I agree. What are you going to do when you hve these and there are no schools nearby? I mean, there aren't any Wonder Why Mar 19 #48
The wild horses and donkeys are a hammer on the environment* but this is just sick Botany Mar 19 #2
totally agree stopdiggin Mar 19 #4
The children had those big new guns and camo clothes and they wanted to coz play killing wild donkeys. kimbutgar Mar 19 #3
WHY?...why would you do this? just to KILL SOMETH*ING FirstLight Mar 19 #5
FirstLight, you have spoken for me as well. Diamond_Dog Mar 19 #11
Me too. byronius Mar 19 #32
Divide these gun-humpers into two groups Codifer Mar 20 #53
Which Federal law says Assault Rifles have to be registered. OneCrazyDiamond Mar 19 #6
You are correct. Article is wrong. SarahD Mar 19 #10
See this BumRushDaShow Mar 19 #24
If the barrels are less than 16", with a stock, they have to be registered. yagotme Mar 19 #26
Here is the DOJ Press Release BumRushDaShow Mar 19 #23
They had to give up their "insurrection fantasy toys", how sad. Bet that hurt. jaxexpat Mar 19 #38
Ah, Thanks. OneCrazyDiamond Mar 19 #47
It's the Short Barreled Rifle thing jmowreader Mar 19 #35
Article calls them Zeitghost Mar 20 #54
Guess they got tired of waiting for the coming "bloodbath" for a chance to use their tactical gear and guns. sop Mar 19 #7
Guess if they had just plain old lever actions they wouldn't have done it... yagotme Mar 19 #28
NO ONE needs a weapon like this Novara Mar 19 #8
That is horrifying UpInArms Mar 19 #15
And it was LOUD Novara Mar 19 #20
Rather impressive. yagotme Mar 19 #29
You really have to hate Dodges to do that....................... jaxexpat Mar 19 #44
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin's son. What a devastating loss. Novara Mar 19 #46
Wild boars and big snakes are available for killing. My cbabe Mar 19 #9
A drum set would also be a fine alternative, imo. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 19 #30
Yep. And fencing lessons. cbabe Mar 19 #42
Fencing is good. Been there, done that. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 19 #43
Fuck these inhumane assholes. I'd shoot them a couple of times & let them bleed out in the desert if I could. CrispyQ Mar 19 #12
Headline should have read: "Asses Kill Donkeys." Aristus Mar 19 #14
Perfect New York Post headline. sop Mar 19 #37
So brave.... Hope they go to a real prison Evolve Dammit Mar 19 #16
My brothers keeps burros on his ranch to kill snakes and predators. Better than dogs in that respect. flying_wahini Mar 19 #18
Great photo PatSeg Mar 19 #22
Love the photo. Thanks riversedge Mar 19 #25
Awwwww! Adorable! Rhiannon12866 Mar 19 #52
Surprised to hear it wasn't Gums & Junior Blue Owl Mar 19 #21
Fucking cowardly scum ! SamKnause Mar 19 #27
They must not believe in Jesus. littlemissmartypants Mar 19 #31
Were they practicing for something nefarious? Sanity Claws Mar 19 #34
That was my thought also. patphil Mar 19 #40
Hmmm. The Democratic Party's symbol is a donkey. Practicing shooting Democrats? sop Mar 19 #41
commenting again, cuz this really chaps my hide and I am Pissed FirstLight Mar 19 #36
Still aching from the 3600 birds slaughtered by other inhuman trash Ponietz Mar 19 #39
Horrible 😞 FirstLight Mar 19 #51
Let these so-called men sit in jail for 5 plus years., "NO monetary fine", jail time only. republianmushroom Mar 19 #49
they need to loose thier 2nd amendments rights. for life. they can have a water gun. pansypoo53219 Mar 19 #50
two and a half years to a guilty plea maxsolomon Mar 21 #55

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
1. This is a worry, a horror in the making.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:26 PM
Mar 19

What good are buying these guns, having them and holding them, and not getting to use them?

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
13. I don't want to misunderstand what you wrote, but on the surface it looks like you are defending the guys
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:23 PM
Mar 19

that killed the burros? And they killed those animals just so they could use their rifles, and maybe they should be allowed to because otherwise why have them? That is not what you meant, right?

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
17. Absolutely not!
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:55 PM
Mar 19

The title called it a worry and a horror and I thought the text made clear that those wanting these kind of killing machines will not be able to resist using them once they have one.
Those wild burros were the targets these asshats wanted to shoot to pieces.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
19. I don't think that is what they are saying
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 19

Sounds more like what was going on in the minds of these crazy gun guys. Some gun nuts do seem to look for an excuse to use their weapons. The whole story is so bizarre and tragic.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
33. It's perfectly reasonable that grown boys who squander hundreds of dollars on single purpose toys............
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 19

would play with them. Unfortunately, though, guns being guns and boys being boys, playing is definitively lethal........to something or someone.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
45. Yes and it might start out fairly innocent
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:48 PM
Mar 19

Target practice perhaps, but pretty soon that isn't satisfying enough. Throw in some booze and the possibilities expand.

I remember a guy in Texas who had too much to drink and came out of his trailer to shoot at a stray dog that had been sniffing around his female dog. It was a trailer park full of children! At least one bullet hit a trailer. The cops came and he got a slap in the wrist. He easily could have killed someone and being Texas, there was a possibility that he might not have gone to jail.

This was many years ago and I remember how nervous I was watching kids with rifles in the field shooting at some kind of small animals. I often wondered what if they got tired of varmints and decided to aim at a human instead. Meanwhile, we were quite sure that our next door neighbor shot one of the dogs my husband had adopted. We heard a gun go off and never saw the dog again. One of our female dog's puppies just up and disappeared too.

Wonder Why

(3,196 posts)
48. I agree. What are you going to do when you hve these and there are no schools nearby? I mean, there aren't any
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 06:46 PM
Mar 19

nearby LGBTQ clubs to shoot up, nothing. Poor guys were just itching to show their NRA credentials by using them. They should have appealed to the SCOTUS on the grounds that the 2nd Amendment, if it gives them the right to bear arms, also gives them the right to shoot anyone or anything. SCOTUS would have gone along and nullified the law.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
2. The wild horses and donkeys are a hammer on the environment* but this is just sick
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:26 PM
Mar 19

The animals were probably “bedded down” for the night when they were shot.

* and they do need to be controlled

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
4. totally agree
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:36 PM
Mar 19

conservation measures are appropriate and necessary.
But we wouldn't hire this kind of mindless cretin - to wash down the work trucks.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
3. The children had those big new guns and camo clothes and they wanted to coz play killing wild donkeys.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:27 PM
Mar 19

There is no reason for anyone outside of the military to have these weapons of war. I hope they get sent away for a long time killing innocent animals who posed no threat to them.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
5. WHY?...why would you do this? just to KILL SOMETH*ING
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:42 PM
Mar 19

This is why I hate Humans.

I drive through that desert at least 2 times a year. Last time I was looking and thought I saw herds of cattle(?). Upon closer look, it was a whole HERD of burros! I'd never seen more than a few at a time!

Wish they'd shoot that asshole in his spine and see how he likes it

Codifer

(546 posts)
53. Divide these gun-humpers into two groups
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 05:49 PM
Mar 20

and let them hunt each other.

Film it with drones and air the complete stupidity of it.

Proceeds go to gunshot victims.

THEY are vermin.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
6. Which Federal law says Assault Rifles have to be registered.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:51 PM
Mar 19

I know we have one in California, but I thought that was one of the non-starters for the NRA federally.

SarahD

(1,182 posts)
10. You are correct. Article is wrong.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:04 PM
Mar 19

If they were capable of firing in fully automatic mode, they would have to be registered and permitted. Assuming they are AR-15 style rifles, they are "modern sporting rifles" and not subject to any special rules.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
26. If the barrels are less than 16", with a stock, they have to be registered.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:44 PM
Mar 19

Under 16", no stock, classified as a pistol, no federal registration.

BumRushDaShow

(128,988 posts)
23. Here is the DOJ Press Release
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:27 PM
Mar 19
https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/yorba-linda-man-and-colorado-man-plead-guilty-fatally-shooting-wild-burros-mojave

Yorba Linda Man and Colorado Man Plead Guilty to Fatally Shooting Wild Burros in Mojave Desert and Unlawfully Possessing Firearms

Monday, March 18, 2024
For Immediate Release
U.S. Attorney's Office, Central District of California

RIVERSIDE, California – An Orange County man and a Colorado man pleaded guilty today to federal criminal charges for shooting three wild burros (donkeys) to death in the Mojave Desert in San Bernardino County in late 2021.

Christopher James Arnet, 32, of Loveland, Colorado, and Cameron John Feikema, 36, of Yorba Linda, California, each pleaded guilty to one felony count of possession of an unregistered firearm, namely a short-barreled rifle, and one misdemeanor count of maliciously causing the death of a burro on public lands.

According to their plea agreements, on November 5, 2021, the defendants drove in Arnet’s truck to public land north of the town of Yermo, in San Bernardino County. Arnet and Feikema eventually got out of Arnet’s truck and were dressed in tactical gear, including ballistic helmets equipped with night vision goggles. Arnet and Feikema each possessed an AR-style firearm.

At approximately 1 a.m. on November 6, 2021, Arnet and Feikema collectively fired at least 13 rounds from their firearms, striking and killing three wild burros. Arnet fired at least five rounds from his firearm while Feikema fired at least four rounds from his weapon. One burro was shot near its spine towards its hind legs, which paralyzed the burro’s hind legs and caused the animal severe pain before it died. A bullet removed from that burro was fired from Arnet’s firearm.

Law enforcement later seized the firearms involved in the burro shootings at Arnet and Feikema’s residences. When the firearms were seized, each was a short-barreled rifle and therefore required to be registered under federal law. Neither of the firearms was registered.

United States District Judge Jesus G. Bernal scheduled July 8 sentencing hearings for the defendants, who will face a statutory maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison for the firearm count and up to one year in federal prison for the burro death count. As part of the plea agreements, defendants agreed to forfeit or abandon the illegally possessed rifles, over 4,000 rounds of ammunition, night vision goggles, and other tactical gear.

The Bureau of Land Management investigated this matter.

Assistant United States Attorneys Cory L. Burleson, of the Riverside Branch Office, and Alexander Su, of the Asset Forfeiture & Recovery Section, are prosecuting these cases.
Contact

Ciaran McEvoy
Public Information Officer
ciaran.mcevoy@usdoj.gov
(213) 894-4465
Updated March 18, 2024

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
38. They had to give up their "insurrection fantasy toys", how sad. Bet that hurt.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:18 PM
Mar 19

Let's move back to the 10-year sentence and attach the year-per-donkey rider for starters. Enough with the plea agreements for white, middle-aged delinquents. What is the possible rationale for their flaunting of the law everyone else depends on with, relatively, zero liability?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
35. It's the Short Barreled Rifle thing
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:08 PM
Mar 19

A rifle with a barrel less than 16" in length is a National Firearms Act weapon and falls into the same field of firearms law as a machine gun. Machine guns, silencers, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns and Any Other Weapons - they have a list, but it includes things like rifles disguised as walking canes - are all sold over ATF Form 4. You need to submit a fingerprint card, a passport-type photo, and a sign-off from the local sheriff to get one. You've got to pay $200 in tax for anything but the Any Other Weapons, and there the tax is $5.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
54. Article calls them
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 07:16 PM
Mar 20

Short barreled rifles. If that is correct and they were legally short barreled rifles with a barrel less than 16", they would need to have a federal tax stamp and ATF registration.

sop

(10,177 posts)
7. Guess they got tired of waiting for the coming "bloodbath" for a chance to use their tactical gear and guns.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:52 PM
Mar 19

Novara

(5,842 posts)
8. NO ONE needs a weapon like this
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:57 PM
Mar 19

A few weeks ago there was a shooting on the corner near my house. One bullet hit my house; several more hit the house across the street. This is what that weapon did to its target in about 5 seconds of shooting:



NO ONE needs a weapon like that.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
20. And it was LOUD
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 19

It literally scared the piss out of one of my cats and for weeks afterwards both of them freaked out at any unexpected noise. For weeks afterwards I had trouble sleeping.

I live in a pretty safe neighborhood, but with lax gun laws in this country, eventually every one of us is going to be touched by gun violence eventually. No matter where you live or work, it's a matter of statistics and probability. We simply have far too many angry people with far too many lethal guns.

And until you see (and hear) the damage an assault weapon can do, you can remain more or less insulated from the issue. It is an academic issue.

The bullet in my house went in at an angle and fortunately didn't go through to the inside. It's still lodged in my exterior wall. A few inches lower and it would have broken that bedroom window. And I live in a safe neighborhood. The guy across the street put his house up for sale. Can't say as I blame him. A bullet went through his wall right above where his son was sitting in his living room. And he was several houses away from the actual shooting. That's how powerful these guns are.

NO ONE needs that sort of weapon.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
29. Rather impressive.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 02:49 PM
Mar 19

Over 50 rounds just on the car, in about 5 seconds, not a whole lot of dispersion. Looks more like full auto, which would require federal registration to be legal.

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
44. You really have to hate Dodges to do that.......................
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:39 PM
Mar 19

My 1st cousin's 21-year-old son died of a semi-automatic weapon fired from a passing vehicle in 2003. Apparently, a gang-war related incident. He and some friends, riding their bikes on a sunny spring day in Chicago, took a wrong turn and ended up on hell street, USA.

I really appreciate your angst, friend. So long as thoughtless people have easy access to extremely lethal weapons, we are all an equally endangered species. There are desperados on our streets. People who think life is a motion picture or YouTube video, an episode where they are the player. Their unreality and ability to use real props in their act-outs separate our whole society, preventing us from living real lives.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
46. I'm sorry to hear about your cousin's son. What a devastating loss.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 05:47 PM
Mar 19

This illustrates why these weapons should NEVER be in the hands of civilians on the streets. You don't have to be a good shot - you can spray bullets everywhere and still hit your target. You also kill innocent people in the process.

He might not have died had the weapon been a single shooter.

Utterly senseless.

cbabe

(3,541 posts)
9. Wild boars and big snakes are available for killing. My
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 12:58 PM
Mar 19

nephew liked hitting. I gave him a xylophone.

There’s always another way.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
12. Fuck these inhumane assholes. I'd shoot them a couple of times & let them bleed out in the desert if I could.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:20 PM
Mar 19

flying_wahini

(6,594 posts)
18. My brothers keeps burros on his ranch to kill snakes and predators. Better than dogs in that respect.
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 01:59 PM
Mar 19

Here is a shot of Elvis and Priscilla 🥰

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
34. Were they practicing for something nefarious?
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:06 PM
Mar 19

Tactical gear, night-vision googles, short-barreled AR type firearms,

These are not just two yahoos who want to test their hunting skills and gear. They wanted to prepare for military-like events. Hmmm.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
36. commenting again, cuz this really chaps my hide and I am Pissed
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 03:11 PM
Mar 19

These aren't teens just fucking off with guns in the desert.

GROWN-ASS men! They snuck out there at 1am...they KNEW they were doing something fucked up!

...and they had 400 rounds? why is THAT in itself not a felony?

I am so fucking done with these cretins who claim to be "people"...they are less than human in my book

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
55. two and a half years to a guilty plea
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:42 PM
Mar 21

justice sure grinds slowly.

they killed the burros at 1 in the morning. must have been so challenging. fuckers.

they deserve a couple years and a lifetime weapons ban.

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