Joann Fabrics and Crafts files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Source: NBC News
BUSINESS NEWS
Joann Fabrics and Crafts files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Company stores and its website will remain open and continue operating as usual.
A JOANN store in Davenport, Iowa.Daniel Acker / Bloomberg via Getty Images file
March 18, 2024, 10:25 AM EDT / Source: NBC News
By Rob Wile
Joann Fabrics and Crafts has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy as it seeks to reorganize its finances.
In a release accompanying its filing, Joann said stores and the company's website would remain open and continue operating as usual.
"Customers, vendors, landlords, and other trade creditors will not see any disruption in services," it said in a release. "The Company remains as focused as ever on providing customers with quality products and services that inspire their creativity.
Joann has about 850 stores in 49 states, the company said.
In its most recent quarter, Joann posted results showing it was more than $1 billion in debt, with shrinking revenues and a widening net loss, citing an uncertain consumer environment.
Wall Street reacted negatively to the news, with Joann shares trading down as much as 20%. The company went public in 2021 as the pandemic lingered and during an apparent boom in at-home, do-it-yourself consumer activity. But after debuting at about $12 and rising to nearly $17, its shares are now worth less than $0.25.
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Oopsie Daisy
(2,623 posts)I've been buying thread and fabric from Amazon and other online sources. I've also purchased online from Joann, but the spools arrived damaged (spools are plastic now, not wooden) and the fabrics and interfacing arrived late. Survival of the fittest, I guess.
LeftInTX
(25,337 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,218 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,749 posts)2naSalit
(86,620 posts)They have better craft supplies than Michael's and religious zealot shoppe. Bummer.
Marcus IM
(2,203 posts)Always low prices, always low wages. That's us.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)They have crap fabric. My wife sews a lot. She pays more for quality fabric from small online shops. She pays a anywhere from 16.00 per yard to 28.00. It is worth it to her to buy quality fabric.
Marcus IM
(2,203 posts)I don't necessarily blame end consumers for it. It's that the pay is so low that discounted cheap China made is what most Americans can afford.
People are turning away from brick and mortar businesses. Who will pay all the various taxes that support communities?
I really don't think that many care, other than performative concern ...
What can Wayfair (owned by Amazon) do for you? Kill your community, that's what.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,537 posts)interest in the domestic arts. They dont cook. And now they pay an arm and a leg to have their laundry picked up, washed, dried, and folded. What the hell happened?
Irish_Dem
(47,075 posts)They spend their money very differently than we did.
Irish_Dem
(47,075 posts)or stitch up a torn up dog toy.
Despite my attempts to teach others how to do these simple chores.
They think I must be like Martha Stewart because I can sew on a damn button.
SMH.
Coventina
(27,120 posts)And yes, I did giver her permission.
crochet and knitting are great for reducing / regulating anxiety; It also helps focus.
niyad
(113,306 posts)nerves with her very. . .unusual . . family. So far, the scarf she is working on in the latest book is 27 feet long. That. . .and the Jack Daniels, helps a bit. I have heard, anecdotally, that some young women, and men, are taking up knitting and crocheting.
Coventina
(27,120 posts)A young man in my anime club brings his knitting in every meeting.
More surprisingly, I was at a funeral for a husband's co-worker, and my husband struck up a conversation with a recently retired co-worker. He had started quilt-making! This is a man in his 60s!
niyad
(113,306 posts)did needlework to relax. And I think about the young boy on youtube last year, I think, who knits or crochets (forget which) as some amazing fundraising effort. Have to go look up and see if I can find him again. I know he was covered here on DU.
70sEraVet
(3,501 posts)She got into comic-cons, Renaissance fairs, and costumes in general. And now, she thinks nothing of knocking out a skirt or dress.
I suspect a lot of young women are particularly drawn to the 'art' part of 'domestic arts'!
Maeve
(42,282 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Into styles she can use every day. Reuse seems to be very popular these days.
I also know young people who are into cosplay and make their own costumes. On Reddit, the Embroidery, Needlepoint, Crochet, Knitting, Sewing, and Quilting sub-reddits are all very active with young people doing some very innovative work.
The thing is, I've been a member of the Embroiderer's Guild of America and they are not attracting new young members - they concentrate on preserving the older styles of embroidery, while the young people getting into it are beginning with their own styles and only later looking into traditional ways of doing the arts. I think the same is happening for many of the "home arts" and it's probably very good for those arts in the long run.
NickB79
(19,243 posts)I actually have a video of her the first time she started playing with Mom's crochet needles, twirling yard around and saying one day she's learn how.
She started making her own stuffed animals at the age of 11 🤣
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)"Gals". Times change. Do you use a dryer, dishwasher, washing machine, microwave, vacuum cleaner?
iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)Sewists buy quality fabric from small online shops, often women owned. And I would venture to say there are many more quilters today than there were in 1980. Apparel sewists just cannot find quality fabric at Joann's anymore. They were their own death knell. And most sewists will not miss them.
happybird
(4,608 posts)In the mid 2000s I picked up a second job at Joannes just for the health insurance benefits. I was clear with the manager about why I wanted the job and she was fine with it. There is a 90 day probation period for new hires, benefits kick in after those 90 days. No problem, I thought. They dont want to waste training hours on someone who isnt serious or washes out.
After reaching the 90 day mark plus a few weeks, I asked for more hours because only full time employees get benefits. I was being scheduled for 23-25 each week, just shy of full time.
This is when they decided to tell me only managers get full time hours.
The store manager was very apologetic and begged me to stay. I may have my faults (many, many faults) but what I can say is I am a damn good employee: reliable, positive, and hard working.
She should have told me the truth during the hiring process.
They had problems keeping employees not only because of the crappy pay, but also because of the ridiculous corporate structure.
While the day-to-day store manager was a hard-working, nice lady who knew the employees and, I think, genuinely cared, there were also regional mangers and a whole slew of other managers that would drop in for a week or two and babble on in corporate-speak. It was obvious that all of us peons were just numbers to them. They were hypercritical and would recommend unnecessary changes in order to report back to headquarters about the hard work they were doing fixing the location.
We had a good staff, loyal and happy customers, and followed all of the directions sent down by corporate regarding how the store should be set up, how products should be displayed, the promotions, etc. We were a good store, dammit.
Anyhow, I turned in my two weeks when I found out about the only mangers get full time hours bs. All those benefits they boldly and proudly display on the door are a sham. Unless you are a manager. And good luck getting promoted. When a management position becomes available, they ship in someone from a different location.
Sadly, from what I have experienced, these practices are standard in corporate chain stores and restaurants, which is why that was the last one I ever worked at.
Coventina
(27,120 posts)And CEOs moan about how no one wants those crappy jobs.....
All that fun for $8/hour, before taxes. Who could possibly resist that opportunity?
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)and I can remember working in retail in the 70s. Maximum hours anyone but management could get was 35 hours, and that was if you were a department head or a supervisor. Floor clerks and cashiers were lucky to get 20 or 25 hours a week.
Most of the time, in a department store, only men were promoted into management. Women's clothing stores had women managers, but men didn't work in those stores.
I worked in retail on and off for maybe 20 years and it was always like that. I usually enjoyed the work, but the pay was always shit.
Kennah
(14,265 posts)It was a regional hardware store in the DC area, Hechinger. They promoted themselves as "The World's Most Unusual Hardware Store."
It was 1983, and I was in high school, so part time was fine for me. I worked in the garden department, and all of us were part time students in either college or high school. Only the department heads, supervisors, and managers were full time.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)When I saw $6 or $8 for one spool, I turned and left. Never to return.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)Online but great prices for sewing accessories like thread, scissors, tape measures, zippers, etc. Fast delivery
area51
(11,909 posts)I've noticed that the "help wanted" sign on the Joann's near me only lists part-time jobs.
I was a keyhlolder at JoAnns for a bit. Fun job, but the pay sucked, and retail has lots of drawbacks.
Mysterian
(4,587 posts)Thanks for the enlightening anecdote.
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)Will shop there, but not taking a chance on them gift cards for a while!!
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)They stopped being a quality fabric store years ago. There are many online, small shops that offer quality fabric. Won't miss Joann's at all.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)But I tend to buy from some trusted shops (I sew tons of athletic and knit)-- there are so many small online shops to purchase from. I will never allow myself to be constrained by only buying from a brick and mortar shop (I am not a quilter). Give a look at some places- Surge Fabrics, The Styled Magnolia, Purple Seamstress, Fabric Fairy, Greenstyle Fabrics, Knit Fabrics .com. Most of the websites have the fabric content, weight in GSM and stretch listed. I also do not buy patterns from the big 4 anymore. Independent pdf pattern designers have a much wider size range. I also use a projector to cut out patterns/fabrics.
LeftInTX
(25,337 posts)It came from Turkey. It was somehow contaminated with a chemical and she got very sick.
Ironically, I was contemplating buying fabric from Armenia and Turkey at the time.
I'm Armenian and Armenian fabric is hard to come by, but there is lots of Turkish fabric on Etsy. It looks the same. I'm glad I didn't buy it.
IcyPeas
(21,871 posts)from a single level place down the street. They moved just before the pandemic hit. I go there probably once a month or so. I hope they don't close this one.
KT2000
(20,577 posts)is they have tried to do too much. They branched from sewing into crafts. This put several local stores out of business. They also tried to have their own fabrics manufactured in China, which were poor quality. They had a ridiculous setup for discounts. They required shoppers have their mailed coupons to get sale items. They could never keep their mailing list straight so I gave up on them for that reason. They required the customer to sign up constantly and wait for it to be processed to get the sale prices - this just meant you never got the sale price. It was a crappy company.
Fabrics.com was in business for decades. Amazon bought it and ran it into the ground very quickly and it closed. They came up with stupid ideas such as selling precut fabric. They wanted to save on cost and required customers buy in their specified lengths, such as 3 yards. If you needed 4 yards, you were expected to buy two 3 yard pieces. What a bunch of idiots. They have come back online but are like an ebay for fabrics.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(721 posts)I went to a local joanns and noticed the cheap crafty nonsense, NO actual fabric UNLESS I wanted to make a quilt; the worker there didn''t understand BASIC sewing supplies...I asked for heavy weight interfacing & an Invisible zipper. You'd have thought I was speaking early Neaderthal.. I couldn't even find patterns and I ALWAYS bought my sewing patterns there, especially Vogue. What a shame.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)Mrs. TxGuitar here. I gave up on their crap long ago. Buy most of my fabric from small, online shops. (I sew apparel not quilt) There is one online shop that is close by me-- so I can pick up fabric and save on no shipping!
KT2000
(20,577 posts)I had the audacity to ask where I would find the batiste. The what??
I did costumes so I needed to get perspective using a mirror. I asked where that was ,and the clerk said there is a mirror over the sink in the bathroom.
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)At one point in the 80s, I wanted to open my own fabric store, but I never did. The closest I got to that was department head of fabrics in a department store.
I was a professional custom designer and seamstress for many years, though, and ran a home business doing that. My grandma taught me to sew and I have her antique Singer treadle in my family room.
I used to LOVE to sew and often made my own patterns. I was damn good. I could make anything from a tailored men's jacket to a wedding dress, and even saw my work on TV a couple of times.
But I haven't sewn anything for over 25 years now. I burned out. I still would like to, but I never seem to get around to it.
Anyway, that is sad. It's the passing of an era.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)My wife makes most of our clothing, except jeans. She shops at small online fabric shops. Also buys PDF patterns and uses a projector to project them onto her cutting table. Sewing has really come into the 21st century. Now home sewists can buy really quality machines (she has 3- a sewing machine, a serger and a coverstitch)-- they are an investment.
LeftInTX
(25,337 posts)I sewed alot in the 70's when I was in HS. I was very petite and lived in a rural area with no sizes for me. So I made my own. I was always altering patterns etc.
When I moved here, I didn't need to sew my own clothes. I only sewed costumes and curtains etc.
Now, I can barely thread a needle to hand stitch. (Even though I buy self threading needles)
Even if had good eyes and a back, I would need a good work space to do anything beyond costumes and curtains.
rampartc
(5,407 posts)make or even mend clothes anymore, but....
perhaps if we endure some type of economic bloodbath more will be compelled to diy ? iow, may be time to buy low for a longer term investment?
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)On Joann's years ago. Crap quality fabric.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)It isn't in most cases. Number one- it is their hobby. 2- better quality if you make it- both in construction and fabric. 3. Better fit. PDF pattern companies and independent designers have made a huge difference.
And quilters are freaking artists!
Emile
(22,749 posts)hates the thought of losing her local Joanne Fabrics store.
I took sewing lessons in 1959 in the attic of a lovely lady from Europe with two other friends. The first thing we learned was how to deconstruct a mans shirt and save almost everything. We saved the buttons and all the fabric for future projects. We learned how to take out a hem, saving as much thread as possible. We made a skirt and vest without a purchased pattern. When I had my daughter I made almost everything she wore until she was about 9. I made my wedding dress, maid of honor dress and my daughters flower girl dress - she was four. Im still sewing at 77. Sometimes when I close my eyes I can see the attic as if Im there again.
Emile
(22,749 posts)that you are quite the seamstress. My wife just the other day was going through her button collection to sew a missing button on my jacket.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)KT2000
(20,577 posts)from NYT: The private equity firm Leonard Green & Partners bought Joann for roughly $1.6 billion in 2011, and spun it off publicly in 2021. Joann's stock price initially climbed, but it began to tumble a few months later, and now trades for about 20 cents a share.
I guess they have cleaned out all the cash they could.
TxGuitar
(4,190 posts)I have been sewing for decades and make 90% of what both myself and Mr TxGuitar wear, with the exception of jeans. Joann*s has been crap for years. I only purchase there in emergency situations (much like today when theatre teacher daughter needs a wedding dress for her students UIL one act play that is being performed Thursday). Most sewists of apparel buy online from small shops that offer high quality fabric. The world of sewists gave up on Joann*s several years ago. They will not be missed
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Somewhere along the line, they decided to make money off the quilters and forget about the hobby sewers. Most middle-aged women have given up being stay-at-home moms, so we buy ready-made clothes instead of making our own. Younger women and teenagers, well they can't even figure out how to work a sewing machine!
But the quilters (mostly women) are still regular customers at Joann's, buying fabrics, threads and other quilting accessories. I think we're looking at the end of an era.
TlalocW
(15,382 posts)When I started balloon twisting, I asked a seamstress friend of mine to make a couple vests for me, and I realized it would be unfair of me to inconvenience her everytime I wanted a new one so I took a class. Joann and Hancock's were the places to go, and Hancock's is gone now. I do shop the smaller, locally owned places, but if I find fabric I like, it doesn't matter where it came from... except if it's Hobby Lobby.
melm00se
(4,992 posts)Their customer base has skewed older and older.
Fewer young people are taking up the craft.
The stores have been shrinking their help.
Their quality has slipped for virtually everything.
chowmama
(412 posts)but not much more, for years. And the notions I want are often represented by a sign and an empty hook.
On the other hand, they're there to serve all your acrylic fleece needs, especially if you're into sports teams - it's got to be nearly 50% of their fabric stock. I can't remember the last time I saw wool on the shelves, and you have to look pretty hard for a shirt blend that has at least a decent percentage of cotton. Same for the yarns. They've got a pretty good selection of quilting material, but I don't quilt. Denim supply's ok, but how much do you really need? Hancock's was much better.
Joann's seldom fails to disappoint, but I'm still going to miss it. The nearest big fabric outlet, a mill-end place, is at least a 45-minute drive away. There's a much nearer specialty place in St. Paul with truly lovely stuff, but it's too small for a wide fabric selection or many notions.
I guess I'm going to be forced to get more from the internet. That's a crapshoot all its own.