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BumRushDaShow

(129,000 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 09:51 AM Mar 18

Supreme Court rejects appeal by former New Mexico county commissioner banned for Jan. 6 insurrection

Source: AP

Updated 9:41 AM EDT, March 18, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday rejected an appeal from a former New Mexico county commissioner who was kicked out of office over his participation in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Former Otero County commissioner Couy Griffin, a cowboy pastor who rode to national political fame by embracing then-President Donald Trump with a series of horseback caravans, is the only elected official thus far to be banned from office in connection with the Capitol attack, which disrupted Congress as it was trying to certify Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral victory over Trump.

At a 2022 trial in state district court, Griffin received the first disqualification from office in over a century under a provision of the 14th Amendment written to prevent former Confederates from serving in government after the Civil War.

Though the Supreme Court ruled this month that states don’t have the ability to bar Trump or other candidates for federal offices from the ballot, the justices said different rules apply to state and local candidates. “We conclude that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office,” the justices wrote in an unsigned opinion.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-insurrection-capitol-attack-new-mexico-cc69572ec4a4404c69947d7d91b3960a



PA needs to do this to the loon Doug Mastriano (R) (PA Senate District 33).







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Supreme Court rejects appeal by former New Mexico county commissioner banned for Jan. 6 insurrection (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 18 OP
Griffin should have changed his name to trump Turbineguy Mar 18 #1
Now that's interesting. 2naSalit Mar 18 #2
Indeed. niyad Mar 18 #3
You know I'm doing a happy dance duhneece Mar 18 #12
I figured you were doing so. Now if only he would get lost out in the desert. niyad Mar 18 #18
It's a local race. States have the rights to make laws about who is allowed to be on the ballot in state/local races. LeftInTX Mar 18 #4
What is different here though BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #7
It wasn't about the 14th. States have the rights to make their own rules & laws about who is on the ballot LeftInTX Mar 18 #13
Oh I know about the states rights laws for elections BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #15
People like to cite this case but as precedent it is pretty worthless. former9thward Mar 18 #5
Hooray! Proud of New Mexico! Proud to be rid of Cuoy, the Traitor! I hope other states follow our example. keopeli Mar 18 #6
The Constitution doesn't make the distinction between federal and state offices Novara Mar 18 #8
They keep claiming that the word BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #9
Griffin was convicted of trespassing, a misdemeanor. LeftInTX Mar 18 #19
A conviction isn't necessary. Novara Mar 18 #20
Link to CREW announcement in 2022... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 18 #10
We're doing a happy dance in our county!! duhneece Mar 18 #11
YET, the leader of that insurrection, Trump, is still allowed on the ballot AND CousinIT Mar 18 #14
State versus Federal BumRushDaShow Mar 18 #16
Not much of a surprise NanaCat Mar 18 #17

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
12. You know I'm doing a happy dance
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 01:53 PM
Mar 18

I’m probably the only DUer who has the dishonor to be in his former District

LeftInTX

(25,337 posts)
4. It's a local race. States have the rights to make laws about who is allowed to be on the ballot in state/local races.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 10:39 AM
Mar 18

In Texas, you must reside in your district for a year, for a congressional race, you don't even need to reside at all.

Also in Texas, convicted felons are not allowed to run for state and local races. However, convicted felons can run for Congress and US Senate. US President because federal law determines who is eligible and there are no federal laws banning felons from filing.

BumRushDaShow

(129,000 posts)
7. What is different here though
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:14 PM
Mar 18

is the "modern" use of a Civil War-era U.S. Constitutional clause for a state race. And since it went all the way to the SCOTUS and January 6 had all kinds of people who were "state-elected officials" or want to "run for a state office" who participated in the insurrection, then this is a way to toss those people off the ballot.

LeftInTX

(25,337 posts)
13. It wasn't about the 14th. States have the rights to make their own rules & laws about who is on the ballot
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:03 PM
Mar 18

The SC wasn't going to dive into their laws/rules etc.

BumRushDaShow

(129,000 posts)
15. Oh I know about the states rights laws for elections
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:17 PM
Mar 18

but in this case, CO used the 14th Amendment Clause 3 to kick Cuoy out and keep him off the ballot and that is what the SCOTUS just deferred to the appellate court allowing that reason - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-faces-14th-amendment-suits-cuoy-griffin-speaks/story?id=103009491

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
5. People like to cite this case but as precedent it is pretty worthless.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 10:44 AM
Mar 18

Griffin represented himself at the hearing and did not argue the insurrection clause. He was not represented by a lawyer. And then when he went to appeal he turned it in late. So it was denied on those grounds. The merit of his case has never been argued in an actual court.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
8. The Constitution doesn't make the distinction between federal and state offices
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:23 PM
Mar 18
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Emphasis mine.

BumRushDaShow

(129,000 posts)
9. They keep claiming that the word
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 12:30 PM
Mar 18

"President" isn't in there, and then got into the weeds about whether the President was actually "an officer" and other cherry-picked nonsense.

LeftInTX

(25,337 posts)
19. Griffin was convicted of trespassing, a misdemeanor.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 04:37 PM
Mar 18

It was local government who removed him as he was a county commissioner.

We had a local guy removed after being charged with a DUI. He wasn't even convicted.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
20. A conviction isn't necessary.
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 06:52 PM
Mar 18

Face it, the corrupt SCOTUS re-wrote the Constitution to protect Day One Dictator and only him.

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
14. YET, the leader of that insurrection, Trump, is still allowed on the ballot AND
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:07 PM
Mar 18

they want to rule on whether HE is immune or not.

Pfft.

BumRushDaShow

(129,000 posts)
16. State versus Federal
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 02:27 PM
Mar 18

unfortunately.

Meaning as much as it needs to be done here in PA to Scott Perry (PA-10) (the insurrectionist Congressman whose phone was taken), it obviously can't be (which is why the example I have in the OP comments is about a loon State Senator here).

NanaCat

(1,114 posts)
17. Not much of a surprise
Mon Mar 18, 2024, 04:18 PM
Mar 18

It wasn't a federal office, so the local government could determine who qualified for their ballot.

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