Water On Mercury: NASA Announces Discovery Of Ice At Planet's Poles
Source: Huffington Post
NASA announced Thursday that its Messenger probe has discovered new evidence of water ice on Mercury.
In the announcement, Sean Solomon, principal investigator for the Mercury Messenger program, said the probe had uncovered new evidence that deposits in permanently shadowed regions of Mercury's poles is water ice. The ice is found predominantly in impact craters, according to data obtained by Messenger.
According to a NASA press release, the tilt of Mercurys rotational axis is almost zero -- less than one degree -- so there are pockets at the planets poles that never see sunlight. Scientists suggested decades ago that there might be water ice at Mercurys poles, but the new findings provide"compelling support" for that claim.
Messenger used neutron spectroscopy to measure average hydrogen concentrations, an indicator of water ice.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/water-on-mercury-nasa-announces-ice-poles_n_2212433.html
Still waiting for that 'big news' from Mars. Water on Mercury is a ho-hum.
msongs
(67,420 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)that slowly seeps out over time?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)and is very, very baked. There isn't any "ground water" or free flowing liquid water of any sort on Mercury. These are ice deposits in craters that are close to the poles and thus NEVER get any sun. Instead of being "baked" they are frozen. The source of the ice is probably from comets that smashed into Mercury. When they land in an always dark crater, they stay frozen. Except for the time of impact, they never get above freezing.
The reason for the extreme temperature differences on Mercury is the lack of an atmosphere to "spread" the heat around. Without an atmosphere there is no convection transfer of heat. So a spot in the sun gets very, very hot, while an area that NEVER gets any sun stays very, very cold.
This post explains it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/122812799
lunatica
(53,410 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)It's like those news releases, every few months, when they discover planets around a random star.
Well, duh.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)this solar system isn't the only one with water. Plenty of other galaxies I'm sure have the same building blocks in them, too.
Supposedly, one of Jupiter's moons is made up of nothing but ice. Saturn looks like it has ice at its poles, too. This is ho-hum.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It looks like ice so ergo! It must be ice! QED
Ho hum
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)anyone who spends any time watching videos or reading about science and the solar system and the universe understands that.
why do you feel so personally diminished by people's opinion on something that doesn't concern you personally that you have to lash out? Get a grip.
Yeah, it must be ice, since that's what the astrophysicists are saying it is.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's a common theory. Different.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)--especially the discovery of water, or the likelihood of water, in so many places, and the hundreds of exoplanets that are being found.
You are evidently very young or haven't followed this science story with understanding of the incredible progress that has been made on these matters in such a short time or the technological wonders that are making them possible, as well as the technical expertise and brain power and persistence that are making them possible.
To say "ho hum," as the original poster tagged onto this story, or "well, duh," as you have just added, is as mind-boggling to me, in a negative way, as all these amazing discoveries are, in a positive way.
At the least, you and the original poster should show some RESPECT for the effort of other humans who are advancing our knowledge of the universe by leaps and bounds, with these discoveries. "Well, duh" is an egocentric, overly self-involved remark. It contributes nothing. It seek to deflate the work of brilliant people who are in the process of discovering that there is probably water EVERYWHERE and planets EVERYWHERE--a huge breakthrough in our understanding of our own planet, our own history--that of the human race--our solar system, our galaxy and the great universe.
The likely prevalence of water and exoplanets was NOT KNOWN twenty years ago. It was not even known TEN years ago. Do you realize how short a time that is? Do you realize what it MEANS?!
And with every new confirmation--more places where water is found or likely to be found, more planets around distant suns, more exoplanets in the "habitable" zone--this incredibly changed picture of the universe becomes clearer and clearer, that there is very likely LIFE everywhere. And that changes our understanding of life HERE forevermore. This is NEW. This was NEVER KNOWN before. And it has all happened very rapidly--in a mere fraction of a human lifetime.
My head is still spinning from it. How can you be so jaded? Maybe it's not that you're young and can't remember when these notions were actually scoffed at by "mainstream" scientists; maybe the problem is that you are a tired, crotchety oldster who has lost the sense of wonder. But, whatever your age and experience are, why inflict your sour, incurious outlook on others? If you have nothing to say but "well, duh," why not be silent until you can contribute something worthwhile?
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Suggested reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_liquid_water
Try to understand how difficult this search has been--for water, for exoplanets and ultimately for life. The first planet outside of our solar system in the "habitable" zone of its own sun was discovered only two years ago. Certain discoveries of water are rare; much of it is inference from other conditions, such as existing in the "habitable" zone. The statement that "there is water everywhere" is largely an extrapolation from the visits of our amazing and increasingly sophisticated unmanned spacecraft exploring our solar system, and from amazing and increasingly sophisticated instruments such as the Kepler and Hubble telescopes gathering images and other information from our galaxy (only one of many billions of galaxies in the universe).
You say that it is "common knowledge" that there is water everywhere. "Common knowledge" can be wrong. So why call upon "common knowledge" for your "well, duh" evaluation of this confirmation of water on Mercury? What you want is appreciation for the scientific work that is in progress, adding, bit by bit--all hard-won knowledge--to an utterly different picture of the universe and ourselves than ever existed before. The confirmations are important. They are the essence of science. And the technology and expertise that it took to RE-visit Mercury with better instruments than before is nothing short of awesome.
You and the original poster remind me of someone who is tone-deaf attending a magnificent orchestral production of Beethoven. "Well, duh." "Ho-hum." Why attend, if you cannot appreciate it?
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)To me water on Mercury is more surprising than water on Mars.
I just wonder what the "discovery for the history books" is that Mars Curiosity made? I guess we will find out in a week.
Bosonic
(3,746 posts)May be big misunderstanding.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/122812918
Chef Eric
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)Not imo anyway.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Too many folks think any discovery that is not little green men is "ho-hum"...Which to me is sad & points to the larger problem Americans have understanding real science.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)or ice on it.
In fact, unless there's something really weird about a planet or moon, I think every body which revolves around just about any star in the galaxy has H2O on it someplace.
Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe. On Earth, Oxygen is, by far, the most common element. The Kuiper belt and Oort cloud are composed of millions, possibly billions, of comets which have H2O as a major constituent.
I think water must be in any star system, because I think it forms naturally throughout the galaxy, in dust clouds, etc.
The SETI people say, "Follow the water."
I think water is the rule, not the exception.
There are few bodies in our solar system without it. In fact, I have not heard of a single one that they've ruled it out.
Even Earth's moon has plenty of it. And now Mercury. The rest of the planets we already know about, and many of the moons.
I think it is a good hypothesis.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)http://www.npr.org/2012/11/29/166162020/space-probe-finds-ice-in-mercurys-craters
Audio for this story from All Things Considered will be available at approx. 7:00 p.m. ET
bora13
(860 posts)Water On Earth: Mercury Space Administration Announces Discovery Of Water At Planet's Poles
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Just think about it!
bora13
(860 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)The ice is at the bottom of craters close to the poles. Because of the tilt of Mercury's spin axis these craters NEVER get any sun. Since there is no atmosphere on Mercury to move heat around, the spots that do not get sun stay VERY cold.
See reply 23 above, and this post that explains it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/122812799
lalalu
(1,663 posts)are already dividing up the planet and planning to install meters.
lob1
(3,820 posts)We need real rain here in L.A.