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BumRushDaShow

(129,092 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:44 AM Mar 15

'You watching this s--': Watchdog group releases Homeland Security's Jan. 6 riots texts

Source: Law & Crime

Mar 15th, 2024, 10:05 am


A government watchdog group has obtained hundreds of pages of text messages from federal Homeland Security authorities reacting to the masses of Donald Trump supporters converging on the U.S. Capitol in the hours leading up to and during the insurrection on Jan. 6.

The heavily redacted texts were released after Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a lawsuit over allegedly deleted texts between government agency workers.

The watchdog group sought records from Dec. 1, 2020, to Jan. 6, 2021, about plans for demonstrations, gatherings, disruptions, threats, attacks, or riots in Washington that day.

The group reported about the texts on its website on Wednesday.

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/you-watching-this-s-watchdog-group-releases-homeland-securitys-jan-6-riots-texts/



Link to CREW website page - DHS officials’ texts show unfiltered reaction to January 6

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'You watching this s--': Watchdog group releases Homeland Security's Jan. 6 riots texts (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 15 OP
Destruction of these records should not be tolerated, or even possible... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 15 #1
What About NSA??? HandmaidsTaleUntold Mar 15 #5
Are the people who deleted texts upper echelon henchmen Marthe48 Mar 15 #2
wheres the backups ? AllaN01Bear Mar 15 #3
I remember the saying --- Nothing disappears forever, from the internet tubes. 3Hotdogs Mar 15 #4
It is worth going to CREW website and looking at each of the different Law enforcement agency's Bev54 Mar 15 #6
Just imagine what is in the redactions moniss Mar 15 #7
"Just a trip down memory lane" BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #8
I remember moniss Mar 15 #9

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
1. Destruction of these records should not be tolerated, or even possible...
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 11:51 AM
Mar 15

From the CREW link:

As part of ongoing litigation brought by CREW, officials from the Secret Service, DHS, Department of Defense and the Army claimed, under penalty of perjury, that certain January 6th text messages were deleted and are now unrecoverable.

Marthe48

(16,975 posts)
2. Are the people who deleted texts upper echelon henchmen
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 12:09 PM
Mar 15

or dog-whistle henchmen? I guess where the people stand in traitor's hierarchy is how quickly they face charges or punishment.

3Hotdogs

(12,390 posts)
4. I remember the saying --- Nothing disappears forever, from the internet tubes.
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 02:33 PM
Mar 15

Given time and access, anything can be recovered.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
6. It is worth going to CREW website and looking at each of the different Law enforcement agency's
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 02:59 PM
Mar 15

reactions to on the ground mayhem.

moniss

(4,253 posts)
7. Just imagine what is in the redactions
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 03:23 PM
Mar 15

of those texts etc. A sobering thing to keep in mind about things like Nixon, Iran-Contra etc. is that what we did find out they did was horrible. Do not think for one moment that we know everything they ever did in other things.

Remember for example the mid-70's when Gerald Ford had appointed a commission to "investigate CIA activities and recommend changes". That only came about because of public outcry after a NYT article (those were slightly better media days) detailing abuses, killings and mind control projects and surveillance on US citizens taking part in protests etc. The report eventually got heavily watered down with the assistance of none other than Dead-Eye Dick Cheney. So the Senate formed the Church Committee. Senator Frank Church chaired and the House had a counterpart Pike Committee so named for Rep. Otis Pike. Although we found out about even worse conduct than Cheney wanted to have known most basically knew that we were only getting from CIA/FBI/NSA etc. a portion of the whole story.

But the portion was enough to make the country cringe. Targeted killings, doping unsuspecting US citizens, torture, Ma Bell turning over the phone system for spying etc. A great deal of the Church Committee findings have never been released. An example is that the Committee delineated 7 case studies about targeted assassinations but only 1 has ever been released. We did get a fractional release of the records. Still heavily redacted. The Pike Committee report has never been released. The only thing we have nearly 70 years later is various "unofficial" versions of a supposed draft. Portions of that were printed years ago in The Village Voice and only in the UK did a full copy of the draft appear.

Just a trip down memory lane for a Friday afternoon in 2024 trying to forget the unforgettable.

moniss

(4,253 posts)
9. I remember
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 05:18 PM
Mar 15

very well the feeling of living through it all. We felt we were really going to get somewhere with accountability and be able to hold out to the public at large the documents and testimony proving some of the things we, meaning activists/left, had been telling people had been going on. When the reports basically stayed hidden, like Abu Ghraib, it was like a punch in the guts. So for awhile we had to content ourselves with the "gain" of Congress now having permanent intelligence committees. Until the GQP whackos came along and weaponized them for their political hit jobs.

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