Senate's No. 2 Democrat calls for cuts to social safety net
Source: McClatchy
Senate's No. 2 Democrat calls for cuts to social safety net
By LISA MASCARO AND CHRISTI PARSONS | Tribune Washington Bureau
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012
WASHINGTON A top Democrat pressured fellow progressives Tuesday to consider long-term changes to the social safety net, even as the party digs in for a fight to save Medicare and other government programs from deep budget cuts.
As closed-door talks continue with the hope of a year-end deal, President Barack Obama will travel to a Pennsylvania toy store this week to pressure Congress to extend the expiring tax cuts for the middle class, while letting those for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans expire. Republicans are similarly taking their proposal of tax breaks for all on the road.
At the same time, Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat, tapped his ties to the liberal wing of the party to urge a broader deficit deal in 2013 that would include trims to Medicare and other entitlement cuts.
"We can't be so naive to believe that just taxing the rich will solve our problems," said Durbin, speaking at the influential liberal group called Center for American Progress. "Put everything on the table. Repeat. Everything on the table."
Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/11/29/175856/senates-no-2-democrat-calls-for.html
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Not holding my breath though.....
If you adjust the defense budget that Eisenhower had for inflation during the last year he was president, it would be about $400 billion a year. That was to maintain a military strong enough to, by their estimates, defeat the Soviets. In 2011 we spent over $700 billion on defense and we no longer face an enemy that is nearly as strong as the Soviets were at that time. So why are we spending so much money on defense? I really don't get it. Let's lop off an easy $100 billion and still have the most expensive military the world has ever seen. Hell, trim us down to $400 billion and we'll still be on top by a long shot.
After us, the next largest spender is China - and they spent $143 billion on their military.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
RickFromMN
(478 posts)Why do we need a military strong enough to fight the world single handed?
Don't we trust our allies? Won't they fight alongside us?
If our allies won't join us maybe we should be in the fight either.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)He's said this before. Send him a message saying HELL NO, DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MEDICARE OR MEDICAID!
http://durbin.senate.gov/public/
-p
shawn703
(2,702 posts)That we were running surpluses with the current level of entitlement spending for the poor. It was tax cuts for the rich and wars that benefit the rich and the interest from these things that put us in the deficit hole we're in now.
bluethruandthru
(3,918 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)What worked before the retirement of the baby boomers is insufficient now.
Durbin is right that the rich can't do it all. Keeping entitlements means raising taxes on the middle class higher and higher to keep up with the aging of the population.
Look at France with their 40% average tax rate for the middle class. That's the kind of taxes required for the types of government services we want.
Socialist like programs require socialist like taxes and that goes for everyone.
ParkieDem
(494 posts)Many liberals (including myself) often state that the "European model" of social democracy is preferable to the crony capitalism that we have here in the USA.
I think that's right, but to achieve that, you have to look at the whole picture. While the poor and middle class do pay a large share of local, state and payroll taxes across the board, their share of federaltaxes is still quite low. In places like France and Germany, the tax system is more centralized, and the lower and middle classes pay significantly more -- but they get more in return.
Another area where we need to be more like Europe, like many other posters have stated, is in the defense budget. I've always thought that the Democrats should be able to reach some type of bargain with the "new" tea-party style Republicans like Tom Coburn and Rand Paul on this issue, because (unlike most conservatives) they realize that defense spending is the biggest form of corporate welfare out there. In fact, of all the spending cuts that Coburn has proposed, defense is at or near the top - he has repeatedly proposed more than $1 trillion in defense cuts.
As long as their corporate lobbyists control Washington, though, defense contractors and reps from their states will be hard-pressed to agree.
hypergrove
(23 posts)Revenue Distributions. The percentage of federal revenue from corporate "people" is at an all-time low. This systemic fact MUST BE CHANGED.
dkf
(37,305 posts)The US no longer has all the leverage we once had of a world class infrastructure and the world's most highly educated populace. In general our kids don't have the work ethic like the Asian's do.
The new consumers are also not here, and our 300 million people seems so small in comparison with the billions of people in China and India.
We have to outcompete and out innovate or we will lose our advantages in standard of living.
daa
(2,621 posts)Let fucking China and England and Canada defend the world. I fail to see our return on investment on defending the world, especially when we start all the wars
You are accepting the right wing world view, we do not need to cut Medicare & SSI. Make all income subject to SSI and the problem is solved forever. Why do the rich get a pass? End taxing capitol gains income at severely lower rates, make it subject to same rates as regular income. Pull back from Germany and Japan, they don't need our millions of servicepeople over there and we don't need to be paying trillions of dollars to them for this either. End weapons programs for things we don't need. MaKe companies pay taxes on foreign income, make them pay for every job they move over-seas and give them tax breaks for moving jobs back here. These moves alone would generate both jobs and reduce the deficit without hurting working class people one bit.
Do not buy into their lies.
tama
(9,137 posts)Pension, medical etc. social security funds can be and in many cases are mutual funds. Which is different from taxes, which are mostly collected to fund the boss classes and their army and police and other means of oppression. Thoreau's classical writing on civil disobedience was about refusal to pay taxes to fund imperialistic wars.
I don't know US system well enough, but isn't there a basic social security fund collected from all citizens which is a mutual fund, not part of annual budget - but of course "lend" by the Federal state to pay it's military extravaganza?
dkf
(37,305 posts)It's taken for the Government's use from the beginning, not put into mutual funds or investments which are then used.
The point was more like, US treasuries can then be used to buy more weapons and wage more wars.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)If I remember right, the US hasn't actually had a budget surplus since the 1950's. No doubt the things you listed made the deficit worse, but we haven't had an actual surplus since Eisenhower.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)No way cut Social Security... This is a pay as you go social net. The workers pay for this not the government. Lets try this, lets cut the expenses of the congress, cut their healthcare, their perks, their social security.....not just the working class.
RickFromMN
(478 posts)Most of them aren't short a bob or two and could pay most of their medical expenses out of pocket.
Maybe give a few less fortunate members of Congress, those with wealth only in the single digit or double digit millions, coverage for a catastrophic medical expense that would normally cost millions.
Wait a minute.
Why can the Europeans with their socialized medicine handle these medical expenses and we can't unless we go into bankruptcy and wind up on Medicaid?
Maybe the members of Congress should face the threat of having to go into bankruptcy and wind up on medicaid. Maybe they shouldn't get catastrophic medical expense coverage. Maybe they should suffer like the rest of us suffer when something like this happens to us.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)FUCK YOU DURBIN!!
AAO
(3,300 posts)I've been paying in to Medicare & SS for 40 years, and now they want to start cutting our rightful ENTITLEMENTS????? I entitled to it BEOTCHES!
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)we'd find his next endeavor and probably the answer to why his anti-Democrat position.
CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Disgusting, isn't it? The corruption & greed are boggling.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)...he had planned.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)following his footprints. I am SO-oooo disappoointed in Sen Durbin....I, at one time, thought he was one of us. Guess not.
demokatgurrl
(3,931 posts)That WE FUCKING PAY FOR
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)if the democrats want to regain the house and keep the senate they had better not touch medicare. there will be millions more going into the system in the next two years and it will be the kiss of death to anyone backing this shit in 2014.
julian09
(1,435 posts)against their interests.
John2
(2,730 posts)is this the same Lisa Mascaro, whom reported in headlines, that a moderate Republican has a lot of say about Susan Rice? I also watched Senator Durbin's speech and questioning in that meeting. Durbin claimed that Social Security was not part of the Deficit and that medicare and medicaid could be reformed. He emphasized cutting costs, in the way Obamacare has. He said nothing about cutting benefits or raising age limits. I think the reporter is embellishing what he actually said, with her own bias to give the wrong impression.
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)I would not be shocked to learn that words were being twisted, that's for sure.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)
'cutting costs'.... as soon as it was known that the Affordable Care Act was a done deal my medicare Supplement premiums went up-well, starting in 2013. So did co-pays, out of pocket max, etc...and I have a pretty good insurance company, if there is such a thing as a good' insurance company... so 'saving costs, while a very good thing, will still cost the insured.
Also, some of the doctors in the practice where I have my PCP have stopped taking new medicare patients because of coming cuts to their reimbursement... AND I think this is a good practice.. They have over 100 requests/week from new patients and have to really pick and choose which patients they take..the old folks on medicare usually get the short end of the stick.
I am not complaining about nor supporting the ACA,, just offering my experience with 'cost cutting'...
SINGLE PAYER FOR ALL !!!! like almost all the other industrialized countries in the world..
I'm not going to disagree with that. I'd rather see a single payer system, but the political climate in Congress has been tough. You are looking at an environment where people are sent to Congress, that want to get rid of entitlements altogether. People put these persons in Congress without thinking. The Republicans over the decades, have moved the discussion to the right and attached it to the debt. I disagree with it. They have done a lot of race baiting with entitlements too. There needs to be education on the real problems of the deficit. That debate needs to move back towards the Military Industrial Complex, and tax Reform. So I agree with you, but this is the political environment we are in. I think Durbin is on our side but it takes the right climate to move the Debate.
Now that we have the Affordable Care Act, we need to create the Political climate to move it towards Universal Care. Opponents will fight back and call it Communisn, but views have to change.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,841 posts)One of the Sunday morning shows. I forget which one though I think he was on opposite Lindsey Graham.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)'entitlements' are not the problem.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)...INCLUDING capital gains, are going up very much at all.
So start compromising from an already weak position?
This is healthcare debate deja vu all over again.
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AAO
(3,300 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)If you are so old that you are using that year's events as any kind of guide, you need to retire and let younger people act more responsibly than you are.
mac56
(17,570 posts)I think he's got something there.
I'm not panicked about this yet. I think he's running stuff up the flagpole to see who salutes it.
he isn't. You are taking her edited view of what he actually said. She took it out of context. The part she edited was that Durbin actually said , Social Security should not be part of the talks and Medicare and Medicaid should take more extensive talks. He also said, there are ways that they can strengthen those programs by cutting out waste. That is where her deception is about cutting the program. There is a difference between cutting waste and cutting benefits. He even gave an example of it. He said that you can cut the cost of prescription drugs for recipients and the unnecessary costs that go to service providers who overcharge medicare recipients, much in the same way Obamacare erased the donut hole. The reporter just manipulated what he said, to get her own view out. If I was another reporter, I heard it different. Don't trust every reporter you hear because many do have an agenda these days.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Give our government the ability to negotiate prices with the drug companies. (Like every other country.)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-07/for-medicare-savings-send-a-negotiator-to-the-pharmacy-view.html
mac56
(17,570 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)And tax increases will be across the board so the effect on the rich is minimized.
Obama has sounded firm many times before but he has always caved in the end.
Until I see results that show he has changed, I can't feel optimistic.
We've been let down too many times before.
It's all déjà Vu.
plethoro
(594 posts)emails from the passive to Senators saying "you meany". People will be in the street ready to fight.
BVictor1
(229 posts)If he's going to do anything, they should put congressional pay on the table.
Contact Senator Durbin and let him know how you feel.
http://www.durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/contact
WASHINGTON, D.C.
711 Hart Senate Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510
9 am to 6 pm ET
(202) 224-2152 - phone
(202) 228-0400 - fax
CHICAGO
230 S Dearborn St.
Suite 3892
Chicago, IL 60604
8:30 am to 5 pm
(312) 353-4952 - phone
(312) 353-0150 - fax
SPRINGFIELD
525 South 8th St.
Springfield, IL 62703
8:30 am to 5 pm
(217) 492-4062 - phone
(217) 492-4382 - fax
CARBONDALE
250 W. Cherry Street
Suite 115-D
Carbondale, IL 62901
8:30 am to 5 pm
(618) 351-1122 - phone
(618) 351-1124 - fax
ROCK ISLAND
1504 Third Avenue
Suite 227
Rock Island, IL 61201
8:30 am to 4:30 pm
(309) 786-5173 - phone
(309) 786-5404 - fax
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Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Go back and play wwith John McCain some more.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)or means testing on Social Security recipients who have incomes above $250,000? It falls in line with raising the tax rate on the top 2%. As part of the 98%, I could live with that.
We're still going bankrupt from military spending. But defense contractors make large "campaign contributions" (aka bribes) to influential legislators, so any relief from that angle is a pipe dream.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)bullshit!
Progressives Increasingly Confident That Obama Wont Cave On Fiscal Cliff Deal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021900034
Stay away from the MSM
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Stay away from Durbin.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Democrats should know that by now.
AAO
(3,300 posts)And now they'll end up cutting Medicare and SS too.
Why are our democrats caving again? And they bought into the rights talking points. I heard Bill Press this morning talking about "falling off the fiscal cliff". The only fiscal cliff is the one tied to the sequestration, which they should just agree to cancel, and then start working on a reasonable plan for the new budget. Fucking ASSHOLES!!
juajen
(8,515 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)But IMO the division isnt D vs. R, it's 99% vs. 1%. How many in Congress represent the 99%?
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)Fighting Bob Fest in Madison wi
felt more at home than i have at any dem function for some time now
and i have been an active party belonging party office holding dem for a really long time
happy i found a new home
sad it is no longer so much as a dem
yes i will continue with my membership
yes i will work on some campaigns
yes i will attend a lot of dem meetings
but a spark has gone out
24601
(3,962 posts)Senate or House of Representatives. For better or for worse, voters chose divided government and that's what we face for at least the nxt two years. Further, when it comes to revenue measures, the Constitution requires tax laws originate in the House of Representatives.
Occulus
(20,599 posts)and then acted like it up one side and down the other.
Peddle your third way bullshit somewhere else. I don't buy it any more and neither does anyone else.
plethoro
(594 posts)man is a disgrace.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)We on Main Street already helped the super rich with our trillions of tax dollars to bail them out.
Those were our taxes that bailed them out already.
You would think they would have rushed to help our president's re-election after we taxpayers bailed them out even as we didn't get Medicare for all and continued to be foreclosed upon.
But no, they gave billions to Mitt Romney instead.
They didn't even appreciate the trillions of our tax dollars that could have been used for Medicare for All or infrastructure improvements or even lowering the eligibility age for Social Security back to 65.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)He needs to shut the hell up and stop trying to lead.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Maybe they can put us up in the Superdome after we get kicked to the curb.
loyalkydem
(1,678 posts)I think we better start putting pressure on this fool
horsedoc
(81 posts)Why do we continue to spend trillions on the military when we cant spend billions on our poor and elderly!
AAO
(3,300 posts)Greedy bastards will sell their own mothers down the river.
demwing
(16,916 posts)he's got to be worth something to the Republicans.
Maybe.
still_one
(92,224 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)still_one
(92,224 posts)simple.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)not.
still_one
(92,224 posts)congressional healthcare and pension
Demeter
(85,373 posts)He's just locked in his own self-defeating pattern.
CBHagman
(16,986 posts)I haven't been able to find a transcript yet. In the main, though, I suggest people read transcripts and/or watch the videos, and find the context and actual content, as opposed to relying on quotations within a news story or simply a headline.
In the years I've been on DU, attention spans have gotten ever shorter, with people reacting only to headlines.
On edit: Listen in particular to the segment about 12 minutes in, in which Durbin cites examples of people reliant on the SNAP program and Social Security.
About 19 minutes in, he discusses how defense spending has skyrocketed in the years since the Clinton surpluses, and before that he contrasts the Clinton years (with relatively balanced revenues and spending) with what came during the Bush years.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenatorDi
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)From what I've seen of his speech, what he said is nothing like what the McClatchey story states; in fact, he was warning Republicans that Social Security and Medicare cuts were off the table. Of course, that hasn't stopped DUers here from doing their usual knee-jerk outrage dance.
mucifer
(23,553 posts)They might be of the same mind on this.
Omaha Steve
(99,661 posts)Just emailed me last night asking to donate to his campaign. I'll put that on hold for now.
I did meet him 4 years ago when he was in Omaha stumping for Obama.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Then send a bill from the senate to the house to restore the middle class cuts, and dare the fuckers to vote against it.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)plethoro
(594 posts)and about to get more and more beneficial to Democrats, why in the name of God would we be willing next year to psychologically reverse our win. We should be squashing Durbin and his kind like bugs. If we don't, why do we keep straining ourselves to win. I had people on my diabetic website giving money they didn't have to... Never mind... Durbin is a corporatist puppet. Nothing more.
kooljerk666
(776 posts)everthing u need to know about Dick.
http://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/26847/dick-durbin#.ULd2B-8jx_U
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Medicare should be changed too - extend it to all people in the country. If you are within the national borders, you're in.
I am sure I could put more on the table Mr.Durbin, but lets start there.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)notice how they get to chide the nonbelievers here without ever any recourse? Durrrrrr... its why I don't come here much anymore.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and got shouted down by folk who claimed that ANY criticism of the Dems/Obama meant I was helping the GOP win. I pointed out that the Dems/Obama were going to cut the safety net as well, it was just a matter of degrees.
I have pointed out repeatedly that the Dems/Obama are NOT the second coming of LBJ/FDR, but endured blistering abuse for telling the truth.
The current Democratic regime is to the RIGHT of Richard Nixon on many issues, and WAY to the right of Eisenhower.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Pukes AND Dems both need to be watched...always.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)What is aggravating is that people around here are so goddamned gullible!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)pay attention to RICH people and REPUBLICANS, in case you hadn't noticed.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)The election is over so it's okay to start saying it again.
Members of both parties are bought and paid for, but it's a little better in the Democratic party.
We have a fatally flawed 2-party system and unhealthy winner-take-all elections. Nothing will change until that changes.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)The problem is those invested in this system are going to do everything they possibliy can to see that it never changes. I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that the system is broken but I don't know if there are enough of them who are willing to make an effort to fix it.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)because we wanted Obama to win and not get thwarted by a 3rd party candidate.
But what does it take to change the system? Doesn't there have to be a super-high percentage of senators and house reps who vote in favor? (which is pragmatically unrealistic, other people have said). It sounds like it would take a lot to change the system. Sorry for not having details of the "how", but it can be googled.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)THIS is what's wrong with some politicians existing in Congress loooooong past their loyalty to the public. I'm really upset to hear this, and I honestly don't know that much about Durbin; but what I do know, I don't like.
I see NO REASON to cave to the repuKKKes for the single purpose of "appearance of compromise". When one side is irrational and unrealistic, the other side doesn't have to meet them half-way to a deal.
This had better not happen. I know it would be the "death-nail" of Durbin's political career, and it may certainly slow the momentum of the Democratic Party and our future hopes of ever taking back the House.
Pull your head out of you ass Durbin, and if that's your idea of negotiations, YOU need to step down and certainly STFU!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Actually a phukken rat fink! Everyone know that medical costs are the #1 driver of out of control costs, followed by bloated military DOD and Homeland Security. If he were a real mensch, he would advocate SINGLE PAYER health care and take insurance profits completely out of the system.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Fuck that.
What kind of negotiation is that bullshit? "Don't hurt us in the majority too bad, Republicans?"
What planet does he live on? Sheez.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)then go into negotiations and say, "Nope ... cutting this and that and this and that and this and that and this and that is unacceptable without replacing all of it with {something much more attractive}."
Example, "Okay let's talk about Medicare. You want to raise the eligibility age. Nope ... But I will entertain allowing everyone to buy into Medicare at 21! No? Next topic!"
At the press conference immediately following:
"Well ... They wanted medicare on the table; I put it there ... We couldn't agree."
Cherchez la Femme
(2,488 posts)Well, if #2 is for it, Prez has a great argument -- it's in the bag!
It appears Democrats are not immune to group-think.
But tell me, isn't that the major fear which turned off the elderly (and many middle-aged) from voting for Rmoney? Once the first cut has been made, it'll be easy-peasey lemon-squeezy to hack up what's left of those OLD-TIMEY F.D.R. STYLE DEMOCRATIC social nets
--whatever hasn't been already looted, of course.
And even though the 'pukes have been drooling for this since forever, it's guaranteed they'll capitalize on the Democrats drawing first blood upon our social safety nets.
Which means huge trouble, and well-deserved too, come midterm and in 2016.
I just don't recognize my party anymore. It's like reading --especially-- the last page of Animal Farm.
Of course the voters will forget everything but the last instance. Of course they'll, as always, be easily manipulated. As a whole, we're really not very smart. Most don't want vision and good policies for the benefit of The People
--us--
they want CHARISMA, then can't understand the fraud and stupidity negatively affecting them, including constant wars, er , military/CIA actions, that comes out of D.C.
As if charisma were automatically positively correlated with good governance.
To win (and seems now just mere winning is all), it --Charisma-- is the primary requisite of both major parties.
It's so bizarre it's absolutely surreal. Ifeel like I'm living in a Kafka story.
And the worst? IT ACTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)Sheesh.
Jake2413
(226 posts)Just sent him a email explaining options and if he should expect my vote when he is up for reelection.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 04:23 PM - Edit history (1)
calling Col. Sanders a chicken rescue mission.
demokatgurrl
(3,931 posts)We should bombard his office with phone calls. I've already emailed him and had to lie about where I lived because his contact form would only allow Illinois addresses. Scumbag
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Smilo
(1,944 posts)but with this ludicrous idea I have lost all respect for him, in fact he disgusts me.
Just because you are sitting pretty Durbin doesn't mean you can play with peoples' lives.
That's not going on the table. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaide, and any other social safety nets should not go on the table to be cut. Military spending and tax cuts for the wealthy should be getting cut, not our social safety net.
He won't be in office much longer.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)I bet SS will be back on the table by tomorrow a.m.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)And lives like the rest of us, THEN we'll talk about allowing people to DIE because they DON'T have the ability to see a doctor.
AnOhioan
(2,894 posts)maparus
(2 posts)he's in bed with. Another good reason for term limits in the senate and house.
FogerRox
(13,211 posts)elleng
(130,974 posts)like nature of 'trims to Medicare and other entitlement cuts.'
Reasonable Dems KNOW savings must come from so-called entitlements, but an article like this does nothing but to inflame, and seems to have done so here. There are many ways to save without cutting benefits to recipients, and Dems know this.