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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:30 AM Feb 10

2 people dead after small plane attempts emergency landing on southwest Florida interstate

Source: Associated Press

2 people dead after small plane attempts emergency landing on southwest Florida interstate

Updated 12:21 AM EST, February 10, 2024

NAPLES, Fla. (AP) — Two people have died after a small plane attempted to make an emergency landing on Interstate 75 in southwest Florida on Friday afternoon, colliding with a vehicle and bringing traffic to a halt as a massive plume of black smoke rose into the air.

The crash landing happened near the Pine Ridge Road exit in Collier County, just north of where the interstate heads east toward Fort Lauderdale along what is known as Alligator Alley.

Brianna Walker saw the wing of the plane drag the car in front of hers and slam into the wall.

“It’s seconds that separated us from the car in front of us,” she said. “The wing pulverized this one car.”

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/small-plane-lands-interstate-75-florida-e619a4b96a7d0dcd14036fecae6f9ccd

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2 people dead after small plane attempts emergency landing on southwest Florida interstate (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 10 OP
Not exactly what I'd call a "small plane" groundloop Feb 10 #1
I figured something big was up genxlib Feb 10 #2
This happened snowybirdie Feb 10 #3
Happened last month in Virginia, too. JudyM Feb 10 #4
Both engines out ? Probably fuel management error by pilot. rickford66 Feb 10 #5
It will be interesting to see the NTSB report on the accident. nt mitch96 Feb 10 #6
Double bird strike maybe EX500rider Feb 10 #7
I worked many years on flight sims so these kind of accidents get my interest. rickford66 Feb 10 #10
So the folks on the private jet saved themselves by killing the 2 people in the car FakeNoose Feb 10 #8
The crew was trying to avoid going down in a residential neighborhood. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 10 #9
The 2 people who died were the pilots of the jet... EX500rider Feb 11 #11

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
1. Not exactly what I'd call a "small plane"
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 06:22 AM
Feb 10

The aircraft was a "private jet", not what I'd consider a "small plane".

Here's a photo of the Bombardier Challenger 600:

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
2. I figured something big was up
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 07:15 AM
Feb 10

I was caught in that traffic jam as I-75 was closed for hours.

Took me 2.5 hours to get around it.

I always figure when something like that causes me a bad day that someone else had it worse.

snowybirdie

(5,229 posts)
3. This happened
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 09:07 AM
Feb 10

About 3 blocks from my home that is close to the interstate. There are three airports close by, within minutes, that he couldn't make. A miracle that anyone got out!

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
5. Both engines out ? Probably fuel management error by pilot.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 11:17 AM
Feb 10

Running out of fuel, accidently switching off fuel feed etc. Bird strike or recent maintenance weren't mentioned.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
7. Double bird strike maybe
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:03 PM
Feb 10

But fuel management unlikely according to the experts over at airliners.net:

Over 1,000 hours on type, fuel management is all automatic, that said fueling the plane can be tricky. But on a that flight as long as enough were on board ex-OSU, no pilot management error that could cause fuel starvation.

Burn on that leg would be about 5,000#, so full wings, which is pure tank-to-engine, would leave 4,000#

rickford66

(5,524 posts)
10. I worked many years on flight sims so these kind of accidents get my interest.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 09:02 PM
Feb 10

I simulated dozens of fuel systems, including every malfunction possible. I had read about the results of all the accident investigations when working and fuel mismanagement figured in many engine flameouts and most dual engine flameouts. The best data I refer to was back in the late 90's so may not apply to some of today's more automated systems. Miswiring, like the 73 that went down in England years ago is a possibility. Ground crews have caused some of these type of problems also. I'm looking forward to the investigation results. My buddies and me had many discussions about the Boeing trim problem a couple years back. An automatic function with bad software combined with poor training and ambiguous trim controls. As in most aircraft accidents, it usually takes three things to lead to disaster.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
8. So the folks on the private jet saved themselves by killing the 2 people in the car
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 06:06 PM
Feb 10

That's how it sounds in the follow-up story. I sure hope there's a hearing on this.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
9. The crew was trying to avoid going down in a residential neighborhood.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 06:21 PM
Feb 10

Last edited Sat Feb 10, 2024, 07:03 PM - Edit history (1)

An Interstate highway was the closest equivalent of a runway they could find.

What would you have done?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
11. The 2 people who died were the pilots of the jet...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:09 PM
Feb 11

...who if you listen to the air traffic control audio maintained their professionalism to the end.

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