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underpants

(182,950 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:37 PM Nov 2012

Hooters owner files for bankruptcy ( 'just standard stuff')

Source: Richmond Biz Sense

Cornett Hospitality LLC, headquartered on Staples Mill Road, made its filing Wednesday, listing 287 creditors and liabilities of between $1 million and $10 million. It lists assets of the same range.

The company owns nine Hooters restaurants and three Topeka’s locations in Virginia, West Virginia and Pennsylvania. It previously owned two Max & Erma’s locations in Richmond but closed them after falling behind on rent and after the chain filed bankruptcy in 2010.

“It’s just wrapping up some of the old baggage from Max and Erma’s,” Cornett said. “It’s just a standard reorganization, just standard stuff.”

Read more: http://www.richmondbizsense.com/2012/11/26/hooters-owner-files-for-bankruptcy/

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Hooters owner files for bankruptcy ( 'just standard stuff') (Original Post) underpants Nov 2012 OP
Tilted Kilt is killing them slackmaster Nov 2012 #1
It's got to be the bagpipes and haggis that wins 'em over, eh? CincyDem Nov 2012 #2
The real boobs around there Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #3
He owns nine Hooters underpants Nov 2012 #5
Or among, for that matter. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #11
There must be a franchise on Mars. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #15
+3 JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #24
I've just got to stick this here... Fozzledick Nov 2012 #25
Oh no not Hooters! Now we need the Tea Baggers to protest. Lint Head Nov 2012 #4
They shut down the local Hooter's near me. Panasonic Nov 2012 #6
Hooters was fun when I was 18 and stupid. They have a simple policy Suji to Seoul Nov 2012 #23
When I was younger it was...titilating... Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #36
I was there awhile ago and the food was pretty good TrogL Nov 2012 #46
so uh...i guess they went bust nashville_brook Nov 2012 #7
Tits up Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #12
He's really strapped. Coyotl Nov 2012 #14
Business started to droop. mac56 Nov 2012 #33
It was inevitable Coyotl Nov 2012 #35
Lots of these restaurants are hanging by a thread (if you'll pardon the expression) rocktivity Nov 2012 #8
The funny thing is we did go to a chain restaurant last night - driving nearly 30 miles to do that. Panasonic Nov 2012 #10
Just tell me what part leftynyc Nov 2012 #37
Any part. Lower Manhattan is fine up to Times Square. Panasonic Nov 2012 #38
I guess people aren't willing to pay a lot for bad wings anymore nt NoGOPZone Nov 2012 #9
hey hey hey underpants Nov 2012 #18
Hopefully people are gravitating to local restaurants DaveJ Nov 2012 #13
"I can't stand how every town across the country looks exactly the same." KansDem Nov 2012 #31
Ate there one time. Over-priced, shitty food. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #16
cheating your creditors. standard american business ethics nt msongs Nov 2012 #17
I went to a Hooters once on a New Year's Eve 2010 ..... Botany Nov 2012 #19
I thought they were too big to fail...... grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #20
no, no, no..."theirs" were too big to fail. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #27
Bankruptcys are stealing from all of us!!! Disconnect Nov 2012 #21
Welcome to DU. surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #22
Not if the business is insolvent. closeupready Nov 2012 #32
The owner owes millions on expensive homes and back taxes. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #40
And if you are the bankruptcy judge presiding over this case, closeupready Nov 2012 #41
But my opinion is right. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #42
I disagree. I don't think you are right. closeupready Nov 2012 #43
I didn't dismiss your opinion, I disagreed with it. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #44
couldn't keep abreast of the business, could they? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #26
Sales began to sag. mac56 Nov 2012 #34
THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS-Henrico County, VA Went Blue fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #28
Sounds like they were a little shorts. bluedigger Nov 2012 #29
So a guy who owns 9 Hooters restaurants is representative of the whole chain thelordofhell Nov 2012 #30
They aren't blaming Obamacare? pstokely Nov 2012 #39
bilking creditors, when you are a large corporation....just standard stuff Supersedeas Nov 2012 #45

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Or among, for that matter.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:11 PM
Nov 2012

That fact raises more questions than it answers.

BTW, what did you ever do with those animated undies?

I hope they didn't end up in a bunch.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
6. They shut down the local Hooter's near me.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nov 2012

Sold off the land and it's one big empty parcel (Ultimate Electronics was right next door, and it's also out of business).

I haven't been to Hooters in 17 years, nor do I care for it.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
23. Hooters was fun when I was 18 and stupid. They have a simple policy
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:53 PM
Nov 2012

Big boobs trumps food quality. Hooters sucks.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
36. When I was younger it was...titilating...
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:34 AM
Nov 2012

When I was a lot younger and single I used to enjoy going to Hooters when the girls wore cut-off t-shirts.

Then they switched to gym clothes and the appeal was lost. You can see more skin walking through the mall.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
46. I was there awhile ago and the food was pretty good
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 06:00 PM
Nov 2012

The waitresses are all University girls so you could actually have a coherent conversation with them.

rocktivity

(44,580 posts)
8. Lots of these restaurants are hanging by a thread (if you'll pardon the expression)
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:01 PM
Nov 2012

I miss having enough extra money to eat out, even if it's only two or three times a month, and apparently I'm not alone. I can imagine how much harder it is if you've got kids to take along.


rocktivity

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
10. The funny thing is we did go to a chain restaurant last night - driving nearly 30 miles to do that.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:08 PM
Nov 2012

My wife wanted to go to Buca di Beppo - a family style Italian chain restaurant. It was way overpriced, and the food wasn't very good - I ordered fettuccine Alfredo and they gave me a huge bowl full of noodles and a dubious cream they called "Alfredo" - it was terrible.

Previously, Buca had 3 restaurant located here in Colorado, but it's down to just one.

Now the wife wants to go back in New York (they just opened up a location in Manhattan) with her brother and eat there again.

I mean, come on, there's tons of _REAL_ family style Italian restaurant in New York, just have to pick the right one.

We're still looking for a real good Italian restaurant that serves decent eggplant parmigiana (wife's favorite) around here in Denver.

We used to go to Nonna's but the food quality went downhill pretty fast (and it was local too)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
37. Just tell me what part
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:38 AM
Nov 2012

of Manhattan you want to eat in and I'll make sure you get the best Italian food in that area. No reason to eat in chains while in NYC.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
38. Any part. Lower Manhattan is fine up to Times Square.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 10:53 AM
Nov 2012

We'll be coming in from Brooklyn.

Can't wait to come to New York next week!

In-law's house is fine - it's inland from the sea.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
13. Hopefully people are gravitating to local restaurants
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 08:28 PM
Nov 2012

I have no happy memories of eating at any big chain. I can't stand how every town across the country looks exactly the same.

Local establishments are great, OTOH.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
31. "I can't stand how every town across the country looks exactly the same."
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 04:05 AM
Nov 2012

Last summer I drove I-40 from Barstow (CA) to Tucumcari (NM). It seemed like every one of the those blue highway signs listing places to eat when you approached a city had the same establishments:



Also, the same gas stations and the same motels.

It was like the only thing different from city to city was the name of the city itself.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
16. Ate there one time. Over-priced, shitty food.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:18 PM
Nov 2012

Cheap lousy domestic beer.

Waitress dumb as a fence post.


Glad I wasn't paying for it.

Botany

(70,614 posts)
19. I went to a Hooters once on a New Year's Eve 2010 .....
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:55 PM
Nov 2012

... really bad food*, over priced beer, and a cheesy bit of the
waitress writing down her name on a napkin like she wanted
to give me her # ...... my then 16 year old son thought the
place was a joke and that the "girls" who were working there
saw us as small time and they went to work on a table of men
that were drinking.

I feel bad for the employees but if the whole chain went belly up
I wouldn't care.

* The worst chicken wings ever ..... cold, greasy, and tough.

 

Disconnect

(33 posts)
21. Bankruptcys are stealing from all of us!!!
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:58 PM
Nov 2012

We should really look at a bankruptcy as not as a failed business but as a business plan. Hostess comes to mind, they didn't want to sell bakery goods, they wanted to cash out!! Bankruptcys are thievery plain and simple, by the 1% to steal from the 99%.

surrealAmerican

(11,365 posts)
22. Welcome to DU.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:24 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, when the owner is saying “It’s just a standard reorganization,” about bankruptcy, there's something very wrong with this picture.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
32. Not if the business is insolvent.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:09 AM
Nov 2012

I do believe businesses and individuals do need to have a second chance to make a fresh start, if necessary.

If becoming insolvent were a crime, Abraham Lincoln would have never become president, Henry Ford would have gone to jail, among countless others who availed themselves of the federal bankruptcy code.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
40. The owner owes millions on expensive homes and back taxes.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

He was clearly living the high life at the expense of his business and tax obligations. I don't think he is especially deserving of a second chance.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
41. And if you are the bankruptcy judge presiding over this case,
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:34 PM
Nov 2012

that opinion will substantively matter more than mine.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
42. But my opinion is right.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:13 PM
Nov 2012

Yours is just silly.

The owner doesn't "need" to have a second chance. He "needs" to be responsible for his business obligations and paying his taxes, instead of buying multi-million dollar homes and living high-on-the-hog. No one "needs" or deserves to be a wealthy business owner. The only thing anyone really deserves, as a member of modern human civilization, is to have their basic needs met.

You shouldn't dismiss another poster's opinion, out of hand, like that. It's rather rude. It doesn't make me feel particularly charitable.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
43. I disagree. I don't think you are right.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nov 2012

I think some of what you think is right, but some isn't right.

I apologize if you were offended by my post, but you dismissed my own opinion, in turn, so two wrongs don't make a right, but you did it, too.

Setting that stuff aside, the federal bankruptcy code is federal law, not a matter of closeupready's opinion or ronnie's opinion as to whether or not Hooters "deserves" to reorganize, and start over.

The law, as affirmed by lawmakers, sets out guidelines as to who may avail themselves of Chapter 11. If Hooters is ineligible, so be it. If eligible, there may be clawbacks which apply, maybe not. It's not done on an ad hoc basis; there are rules to be followed.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
44. I didn't dismiss your opinion, I disagreed with it.
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 01:53 PM
Nov 2012

Your opinion was that the business owner "needs" a second chance, and it was no less of a value judgment than my own opinion. It has no more to do with bankruptcy law than my opinion does. Federal code has nothing to do with weather or nor not a greedy, crappy business owner needs or deserves a second chance. That's what I was addressing; the moral implications, which was broached by you, not me.

fightthegoodfightnow

(7,042 posts)
28. THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS-Henrico County, VA Went Blue
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:36 PM
Nov 2012

...making Romney bankrupt.

Time for Hooters to call their bankruptcy man.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
30. So a guy who owns 9 Hooters restaurants is representative of the whole chain
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 12:27 AM
Nov 2012

C'mon now people..........there's more than 9 of these things out there

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
45. bilking creditors, when you are a large corporation....just standard stuff
Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

not so standard when real people come before the bankruptcy judge

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