GOP bills would give expectant parents tax credit on fetus
Source: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121120/POLITI
Lansing The House Tax Policy Committee heard testimony Tuesday on a bill that would grant "personhood" status to fetuses, allowing expectant parents to qualify for a tax exemption.
Parents would be able to claim a dependency exemption for a fetus that has completed at least 12 weeks of gestation as of the last day of the tax year and that has been under the care and observation of a physician since at least 12 weeks of gestation. The period of gestation would have to be determined by a physician.
The two-bill package introduced by Republican Reps. Lisa Lyons of Alto and Jud Gilbert of Algonac, would cost Michigan about $5 million annually in revenue, according to a House Fiscal Agency Analysis.
The personal exemption is $3,950 for the 2013 tax year and $4,000 for the 2014 tax year and subsequent years.
Read more: Detroit News
Looney Tunes.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Definitely a "One Percenter!"
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)on the backs of the 99 percent. They do the work of softening that egg up, and he slips right in and profits.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)Average Number of Sperm per Ejaculation: 200- 300 million
http://menshealth.about.com/od/lifestyle/a/vital_stats.htm
jpak
(41,758 posts)duh
wordpix
(18,652 posts)or at least, for one that COULD be a person every 10 mos.
Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)EXCEPT: this is wrong.
central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)nfm
peace13
(11,076 posts)I would hope that the deduction would be removed and taxes refiled. Sounds like a lot of work just so a few folks can get a jump on the tax credit. I guess they get double with twins. Ohhhhh....think of the quadruplets.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)it's about the GOP trying to bribe stupid people into accepting embryonic Personhood. If what they REALLY wanted was to give people an additional tax break, you have the baby, then get to file as such on your UPCOMMING Tax returns, and when you do, you get to claim a child tax credit for LAST YEAR, (the year you were pregnant) as well as this one.
That they think were dumb enough to fall for this, should be all the explaination they need to tell them why they just lost a National Election Cycle.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)There is no shortage of crazy in this country. There will always be a diversion if not this one then something else. They have made rape into an everyday run of the mill word and in turn an everyday action. They assaulted every rape victim in the country day after day with there verbal abuse. Now it is 'personhooding' a zygote. Really, I don't know how we will get these folks back under their rock but my guess is that it won't be quick or easy. Keep on keeping on, fighting the good fight. They will do anything to stop progress ....that is what we are working with. Bombing us back to the cave days is in their sites.
yardwork
(61,621 posts)Obviously the true goal is to do exactly what you say - another way to create legal precedent for embryonic personhood leading to bans on abortion and probably bans on contraception as well.
One immediate argument against this idea is that it will create a lot of expensive paperwork. To qualify, pregnant women will have to document that they have been "under the care of a physician" for at least twelve weeks, and the physician will have to sign off on that. Many (poor) people don't access prenatal care at all until well after 12 weeks gestation. They may postpone going to a doctor until they are close to delivery, or not go to a doctor at all and simply show up at the Emergency Department in labor. The only people who would even benefit from this tax break would be wealthy people with private insurance who have Ob/Gyns who have time to fill out useless paperwork.
The Republican Party of "less government" strikes again with an expensive and time-consuming way to get government all up in our business.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)the party of less government. They are the party of morally correct government, and THAT government is, by it's nature, fucking HUGE.
They think WE want the government to do more "stuff", but at least we can comit the government to staying small enough to stay the hell out of peoples personal lives...
patrice
(47,992 posts)as CHEAPLY as possible.
cyndensco
(1,697 posts)Wrong on so many counts least of which is Michigan cannot afford to lose $5M.
How do they come up with these ideas??
DakotaLady
(246 posts)I just want this madness to stop ... make it go away.
femrap
(13,418 posts)legislation....what took ALEC so long????
Is MI trying to be more stupid than OH??? Our Heartbeat Bill is more cruel...the most cruel EVER!
I hate the Dark Ages.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)"Personhood" bills any which way they can.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)but i wouldn't hold my breath.
Dubster
(427 posts)mac56
(17,569 posts)Maybe someone more knowledgable can cast some light on this?
EC
(12,287 posts)They could fool a lot of people with this. They'll believe it only affects their taxes....
wordpix
(18,652 posts)justice1
(795 posts)shawn703
(2,702 posts)Will eventually be used as an attack on Roe v. Wade.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Get pregnant in September, claim deduction in December, have an abortion in January. Perpetual deduction. If you have twins or triplets, you can write off your entire income.
Utterly stupid idea that would INCREASE abortions instead of decreasing them. Repukes need to study the law of unintended consequences.
alp227
(32,025 posts)adieu
(1,009 posts)"Why?"
"Because it's September and we can get a tax write off!"
booley
(3,855 posts)not sure they thought this through.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)they are too fucking dumb to get it. It's like George W. Bush telling knock knock jokes.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)and screw the living and breathing child, and adult poor, sick, and elderly. Only the UNBORN matter.
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)bat-shittery or ass-hattery? I simply can't keep up!
klook
(12,155 posts)"I'm learning for two."
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)go to Planned Parenthood for their free abortion in January. Rinse and repeat the next September.
Awesome. No maternity visits to the doctor, no diapers, no painful childbirth - just an annual tax write off that will never need clothes or food or a car or college education.
Sirveri
(4,517 posts)So you don't even need to go to the trouble of having sex!
lalalu
(1,663 posts)Time to get busy. Too late for this year but there is always next year
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)If they switch that towards a program for Maternity assistance, particularly for those who need it, I am all for it.
Especially, if it deals with paying for the bills come delivery time...
Arkana
(24,347 posts)to arresting women who terminate their pregnancies and charging them with murder.
They really don't know how to do anything except social engineering, do they?
kiranon
(1,727 posts)medical reasons (a la Ireland example) and are denied one because the fetus is a person who has a right to die and take its pregnant mom with it. It's war on women and on pregnant women in particular who lose their personhood when they become pregnant under this proposed legislation.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Why not? Wasn't he responsible for the "blessing" in the woman's womb?
glinda
(14,807 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)jb14621
(5 posts)Not in favor AT ALL in giving personhood to a fetus. So, are we guilty of murder should the fetus be aborted? This looks like easy money to most, I guess; but, the trade off is not worth buying my vote in favor!!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)I assume that once the baby is born, they lose all benefits.
Hekate
(90,690 posts)Prenatal, postnatal, and all that. That's if they really cared.
But no, it's just more of the same horseshit. If passed, the next step will be to charge women and doctors with murder if there's not a baby popped out on schedule. And I mean that.
Hekate
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)InsultComicDog
(1,209 posts)can a lawyer sue on behalf of the fetus for release since the fetus is innocent?
svpadgham
(670 posts)InsultComicDog
(1,209 posts)to drive, to drink, or to collect Social Security
InsultComicDog
(1,209 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Because I see a luscious loophole here.
davsand
(13,421 posts)Because everybody knows pregnancy loss is not trauma enough without the fundy freaks inserting themselves into it. They'll want to create a board to determine if the mother did, in fact, do all she could to prevent that pregnancy loss. If the Pregnancy Police determined the mother was at fault--let's say she had some medical issue--then those "parental wanna-bes" would need to pay the taxes owed, PLUS an appropriate level of fines.
Intended as but just creepy enough that it might be real...
Laura
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Repukes and their "no government" philosophy does not apply when sticking their noses in women's private parts.
Ewwwww