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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:05 PM Nov 2012

Israel Warns Gazans to Flee Homes with Leaflets

Source: Associated Press

Israeli warplanes have dropped leaflets on several Gaza City neighborhoods urging people to evacuate their homes immediately.

Tuesday's warnings could signal a new round of heavy airstrikes on residential areas in the Palestinian territory.

The leaflets say "For your safety, you are required to evacuate your residences immediately and move toward central Gaza City" and list areas where people should go.

Palestinian militants have urged residents to ignore the warnings, calling them "psychological warfare."

Read more: http://www.kaaltv.com/article/stories/S2841200.shtml?cat=10728

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Israel Warns Gazans to Flee Homes with Leaflets (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
Nice that the "militants" are so concerned for the welfare of their people HERVEPA Nov 2012 #1
nice that the Israelites are giving advance notice of their impending atrocities nt msongs Nov 2012 #2
"Israelites"? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #5
If the population heeds the warnings then there won't be any atrocities. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #36
Contrasted with the "concern" for the welfare of the residents of Gaza on the part of the Israelis? MNBrewer Nov 2012 #3
Israel's targeting is rather specific. HERVEPA Nov 2012 #44
"rather specific" MNBrewer Nov 2012 #45
here is more about Israel's leafletting azurnoir Nov 2012 #4
Flee to where? Ash_F Nov 2012 #6
Well it is roughly twice the size of DC dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #8
Pretty bullshit article. On NPR the leaflets are being dropped over a specific Northern area riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #19
You are correct. Adsos Letter Nov 2012 #23
Thanks for the additional info /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #31
a clear leaflet. Has anyone read of any group support for the evaced civilian residents? Sunlei Nov 2012 #33
This is not a good sign. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #7
Where are they supposed to go? Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth and is Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #9
This is a pretty bullshit article. On NPR they were saying that the leaflets were being dropped riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #20
Isn't this the very definition of terrorism? "Flee, or we will kill you." Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #10
I've never known of a terrorist to give a specific warning like that. joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
You should read about the IRA muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #14
They did it beforehand and with ample time to escape? joshcryer Nov 2012 #15
They placed the bombs, then phoned in that it was about to go off muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #16
Not really - the IRA just liked to play the same PR games as the US military does. Nihil Nov 2012 #35
Really? You must not know very much about terrorism. Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #27
Got any other examples? joshcryer Nov 2012 #28
didnt the us drop leaflets over hiroshima before dropping the bomb leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #13
Yes. 5 days notice if I recall correctly. Very few evacuated however. nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #24
We did it a whole bunch in 1990. Robb Nov 2012 #34
Since when have terrorists given warning? glacierbay Nov 2012 #40
they should all flee into isreal leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #12
And flee to where? Karma will still be a bitch when it comes around! kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #17
+1 eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #18
Very specific locations are identified oberliner Nov 2012 #25
The leaflets give safe areas and safe routes. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #38
And hey, we'll let you back in, honest, you can trust us n/t Fumesucker Nov 2012 #21
What? Are there no railroads. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #22
Israel has no control over internal movement within Gaza oberliner Nov 2012 #26
LOL, indeed. Where do you come up with this shit? Seriously. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #30
The contents of the leaflets are posted in this thread oberliner Nov 2012 #32
So this is just collective punishment/terrorism then? After all if everyone can leave then you Puregonzo1188 Nov 2012 #41
No oberliner Nov 2012 #42
Property belonging to Hamas will get blowed up mrf901 Nov 2012 #29
Automatic Rec for bad writing slackmaster Nov 2012 #37
Also known as the hurry up and get out in the open so we can shoot you. aandegoons Nov 2012 #39
Actually the opposite of that oberliner Nov 2012 #43

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
3. Contrasted with the "concern" for the welfare of the residents of Gaza on the part of the Israelis?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:12 PM
Nov 2012

Where are there supposed to go? Gaza isn't THAT big!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
4. here is more about Israel's leafletting
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012
During the 2008-9 Israeli military assault on Gaza, the army sent thousands of similar messages to mobile phones in Gaza. But according to several friends and acquaintances who were there, the messages were often either false alarms or designed to sow panic. “What do you do if you receive a message warning you to go a safer place if you are already in the safest place in Gaza, or if you have nowhere to hide?” one friend asked rhetorically.

This same woman — a journalist — said that often the text messages would warn of impending bombardments that did not happen, in a sick version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.


http://972mag.com/idf-sends-text-message-to-gaza-mobile-phones-the-next-phase-is-on-the-way/60046/
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
19. Pretty bullshit article. On NPR the leaflets are being dropped over a specific Northern area
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:49 PM
Nov 2012

and directing the residents to go to the city central square.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
23. You are correct.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:14 PM
Nov 2012

Here is a copy of the leaflet text:

Photo of leaflet dropped on Gaza by Israeli military (Photo of leaflet is at site linked)

Translation:

Military Announcement

To the residents of Sheikh Ijleen, Tal al Hawa, Remal al-Janoub, Zeitoun neighbourhood, Shoujaiyat al-Tourkman, Shoujaiyat al-Jadida:

The Israeli military is not targeting any of you and does not want to hurt you or members of your family.

For your own safety, you are requested to evacuate your houses right away and to move towards Gaza city through Cairo Road, Arab League Road, al-Aqsa Road, al-Qadisiya Road, Em el Leymoun, Salaheddine, al-Mansoura, Khalas, Baghdad.

The deployment in Gaza city is limited in the west of Salah al-Din Road, north of Omar al Moukhtar Road, East of Nasr Road, and south of al-Qods Road.

This confrontation is temporary and once it ends everyone will go home.

Obeying the orders of the Israeli military will result in you, civilian residents, not being hurt

The Israeli Defence Army Leadership

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/gaza/photo-leaflet-dropped-gaza-israeli-military


Warning about a very specific area and listing specific corridors of safe travel. Emphasis added.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
33. a clear leaflet. Has anyone read of any group support for the evaced civilian residents?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:36 AM
Nov 2012

Is the Red cross on the ground there? I haven't found any charity limited to citizen support.

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
9. Where are they supposed to go? Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on earth and is
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:25 PM
Nov 2012

under blockade.

These leaflets are a sick joke.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
20. This is a pretty bullshit article. On NPR they were saying that the leaflets were being dropped
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:50 PM
Nov 2012

in pretty specific northern neighborhoods and the residents were being advised to go to a central city square for safety.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
14. You should read about the IRA
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
Nov 2012

They had a system of codewords that they'd contact the media with, so that everyone would know the warning they sent in that they were about to bomb somewhere was genuine. That way, they got to make people panic, do what the IRA told them, and then claim that they had concerns for 'civilians'.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
16. They placed the bombs, then phoned in that it was about to go off
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 07:06 PM
Nov 2012

A bit different from "we will bomb/shell your house tomorrow", but then they didn't have planes or artillery with unlimited movement. People typically had minutes to evacuate the area, though the warning wouldn't be specific enough to allow a bomb disposal squad to find and defuse it in time.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
35. Not really - the IRA just liked to play the same PR games as the US military does.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

e.g., "They gave a warning" that was for the wrong location (different town ) and also
omitted to "warn" about the second bomb that was placed in the evacuation zone
and timed to detonate a minute or so after the first one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks

In short, the IRA were murdering cowardly fuckers.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
34. We did it a whole bunch in 1990.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:48 AM
Nov 2012

We dropped leaflets via high speed, low level F-18s and F-16s. We addressed them to the particular Iraqi army companies we were showering. Simply said "the next one will be a bomb, not a note."

Remember all those abandoned heavy weapons and long lines of surrendered troops you saw on CNN?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
40. Since when have terrorists given warning?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:30 AM
Nov 2012

Israel is trying to minimize casualties while Hamas is telling residents to ignore the warnings and hopes to create civilian deaths for their sick propaganda. More proof that Hamas doesn't give a shit about the it's citizens welfare.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Very specific locations are identified
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

The leaflets indicate exactly which areas within Gaza are being targeted and which areas are not.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Israel has no control over internal movement within Gaza
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:58 PM
Nov 2012

They are simply indicating very specific areas that are being targeted and urging residents to move to other areas within Gaza that are not.

As over 99.99 percent of the population of Gaza are not being killed or injured, there are presumably many areas that are safe, especially considering how densely populated the territory is.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. The contents of the leaflets are posted in this thread
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:49 AM
Nov 2012

Everything else I've written is just undisputed facts. Israel has no control over internal movement in Gaza - and a miniscule percentage of the population of Gaza have been casualties of Israeli attacks.

One would think you would know these things being such an avid follower.

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
41. So this is just collective punishment/terrorism then? After all if everyone can leave then you
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:01 PM
Nov 2012

aren't getting the bad guys just blowing up people's stuff for no reason? Kind of like when they bulldoze homes and Olive Trees in the West Bank?

I bet you probably think if your neighbor commits a crime then you should get your house blown up/bulldozed too and if you don't like it--on the spot execution.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. No
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:17 PM
Nov 2012

It's an attempt to attack the terrorist infrastructure within Gaza while minimizing the number of civilian casualties - which is not an easy task.

 

mrf901

(49 posts)
29. Property belonging to Hamas will get blowed up
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:55 AM
Nov 2012

good news for people in the building trades
and others such as metal scrappers

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