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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:10 PM Nov 2012

GOP’s Benghazi Conspiracy Falls Apart: White House Didn’t Change Susan Rice’s Talking Points

Source: ThinkProgress


By Hamed Aleaziz on Nov 20, 2012 at 10:51 am

Intelligence officials told CNN that the intelligence community, not the White House, changed the now infamous Benghazi talking points given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice before her appearance on several morning news shows in September. CNN quoted both the spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence and an anonymous official “familiar with the drafting of the talking points.” The DNI spokesperson said that the only “substantive changes” came from the intelligence community and not the White House.

Former CIA Director David Petraeus told lawmakers in a closed door hearing last week that the CIA’s original assessment on the Sept. 11 Benghazi attack was that it was carried out by al Qaeda affiliated groups. But he reportedly said that analysis was later taken out after an interagency review in favor of a more general assessment that “extremists” carried out the attack to broaden the scope and not tip off terrorists to U.S. knowledge on the matter. And despite the fact that Petraeus said the CIA approved the change, Republicans, led by Republican senators John McCain (AZ), Lindsey Graham (SC) and Kelly Ayotte (NH), have accused the White House of stripping the language for political reasons.

But Shawn Turner, the spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence, told CNN that it wasn’t the White House’s decision:

“The intelligence community made substantive, analytical changes before the talking points were sent to government agency partners for their feedback. There were no substantive changes made to the talking points after they left the intelligence community.”


Another anonymous intelligence official echoed Turner, saying that the changes were made based on legitimate intelligence and for legal purposes:

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/11/20/1219641/susan-rice-talking-points-cia/
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GOP’s Benghazi Conspiracy Falls Apart: White House Didn’t Change Susan Rice’s Talking Points (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
: liberal N proud Nov 2012 #1
great image!!!!!!! northoftheborder Nov 2012 #2
Perfect image! eom BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #5
:) Cha Nov 2012 #36
watch john mccain and his credibility deflate. crazy grampa shouts at clouds leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #3
Crazy grampa shouts at everything nowadays. Mike Daniels Nov 2012 #4
as matthews would say "HA , fair enough" leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #6
It is time to Put the Maverick out to pasture... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #9
I predict that he's double down on stupidity and still press for an "investigation". Javaman Nov 2012 #11
watch john mccain and his credibility deflate. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #21
McCain's time is up atreides1 Nov 2012 #23
Surely this time Fox News will apologize skip fox Nov 2012 #7
Too bad they can't be less controlling and more patriotic. Truth is patriotic. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #13
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #8
With heaven05 Nov 2012 #18
Apparently John2 Nov 2012 #10
Fox and Limbaugh wont mention this though AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #12
Of course they won't. If they told the truth, they'd be out of business sakabatou Nov 2012 #14
Reality is that there is no conspiracy. They peddle propaganda. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #15
It's right up there with the dozens and dozens of black people voting in rural main that politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2012 #31
Republicans I work with repeat stuff debunked a decade ago AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #32
Obama needs to pick a fight and nominate Susan Rice for SOS. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
You will be comforted to know that the freepers have dismissed this because djean111 Nov 2012 #17
Typical of the latter day GOP, when the lies fail to convince - stay the course... Indi Guy Nov 2012 #19
And would I be wrong to expect an apology from John McCain this afternoon? Botany Nov 2012 #20
Pres. Obama warned Sen. McGrampy to back off, but Mc SDjack Nov 2012 #22
The age of irrelevancy is upon him... mikki35 Nov 2012 #24
But we all know ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #25
That's sorta like "Joe made that comment, but Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #26
Exactly. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #33
Freaking Republicans and their lies Berlum Nov 2012 #27
Good to read this, but I'm so tired of having to depend on ThinkProgress for facts. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #28
Hahaha Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #29
The hypocrisy is thick with this bunch - Republicans. chowder66 Nov 2012 #30
Atwater tactic behindenemylins Nov 2012 #34
Kick! sarcasmo Nov 2012 #35
It's all Ben Gazi's fault. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #37

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
9. It is time to Put the Maverick out to pasture...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:45 PM
Nov 2012

He can live out his days there....and leave us in peace!

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
11. I predict that he's double down on stupidity and still press for an "investigation".
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:51 PM
Nov 2012

regardless of the facts.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
23. McCain's time is up
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:43 PM
Nov 2012

It seems that they have term limits on how long a senator can sit on a committee...Johnny's time as the ranking member on the Armed Services committee is almost up...according to what I saw on Hardball there is one position that is open to him now...ranking member on the Indian Affairs committee!

Holding that position should give him a better ability to deal with non-whites, and maybe teach the arrogant asshat some humility...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. With
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

knowing the truth about Mcdip and his past, his name has only been great because media made it great. This guy may have flown planes, badly, but he was never great and has shown with this Benghazi incident that he will NEVER be remembered as such by me. When he dies, the hypocrites, sycophants and his allies will be shedding crocodile tears and snotting all over the place, yet Mcdip will end up in the same historical trash bin as mittshit. Count on it. And, by the way, is lyinaynryan still a power in the senate with boner putting him in charge of the budget negotiations? The rethugs must really think so.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
10. Apparently
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:51 PM
Nov 2012

in their attacks on the Whitehouse, they are trying to leave the CIA and petraeus unscathed. Why hasn't anyone asked Petraeus further, why he thought it was Al Qaeda? Just what connection is there between Ansar Al and Al Qaeda, seeing the Ansar was the only suspect mentioned with a connection? Did they use Al Qaeda as a diversion also? The bottomline here is, not all militia groups in Libya, want democracy, but Sharia law instead. These same groups have also been mentioned in prior attacks to disrupt the process.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Fox and Limbaugh wont mention this though
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:00 PM
Nov 2012

The right wing will repeat this 'conspiracy' ad nauseum for the next 30 years anyway.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
31. It's right up there with the dozens and dozens of black people voting in rural main that
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:06 PM
Nov 2012

the Maine GOP party chairman is investigating. There must have been a couple of hundred. Like Pinocchio's nose, the story kept growing even while the man was telling it.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
32. Republicans I work with repeat stuff debunked a decade ago
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:53 PM
Nov 2012

They have never heard anything to the contrary. They don't even know the existence of basic recent history or current events. One guy I work with has never heard of Clintons 1993 economic plan. He believes himself to be a history expert, but all he knows are RW talking points. It's pointless even discussing politics or history with him. His mind is too far gone. It's sad in a way and I can't help viewing people like him as victims. They live in mortal fear of all these things that just do not exist.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
17. You will be comforted to know that the freepers have dismissed this because
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

the media are lying lackey lapdogs for the librul dems.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
19. Typical of the latter day GOP, when the lies fail to convince - stay the course...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

...and double down when things get desperate.

McCain's untruths are not unlike Romney's emphatic and cynical lies re: Chrysler shipping jobs to China -- which are not unlike Bush's intractable lies re: WMD (which, ironically enough, were propagated by the soon to be Secretary of State, one Condoleezza Rice, whom McCain unblinkingly voted to confirm).

...So much home-grown bad faith by the GOP. Is it no wonder that, weary of the steady onslaught of transparently deceitful propaganda, the majority of the public voted against the corrosive snake-belly politics of lowest common denominator? ...Where politicians, when desperate, race not to the right left or center -- but to the very bottom?

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
22. Pres. Obama warned Sen. McGrampy to back off, but Mc
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:41 PM
Nov 2012

didn't. So, the Prez rolled up the talking points and shoved them up Mc's ass. Then, he laughed all the way back to the White House.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. But we all know ...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:00 PM
Nov 2012

that one appearance of McCain and/or Graham spouting baseless "facts", equals any number of intelligence or administration officials. Especially when MSNBC allows people like King to say, "Yes, the CIA and DNI both signed off on the talking points; but we don't know who approved the talking points."

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
28. Good to read this, but I'm so tired of having to depend on ThinkProgress for facts.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

This shouldn't have to be relegated to a progressive think tank. It should be on all networks and cable news coming from their own reporters.

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
30. The hypocrisy is thick with this bunch - Republicans.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

Republicans saying this is the White House politicizing when it is not.... so the Republicans politicize it.

These people are useless and stand in the way of the peoples business. McCain and anyone who supported this bullcrap needs to be run out of office.

behindenemylins

(41 posts)
34. Atwater tactic
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

Start a bunch of pointless bullshit, then with their usual lemming chorus, point the finger elsewhere.

First time I can remember that protocol was with (drumroll) Willie Horton's "days off". Signed by Reagan; pointed at Dukakis. Quite honestly, that very matter was what interested me in being a Democrat at age 13. Read it in "The Union Builder" where they got to the bottom of it, but obviously it didn't catch fire with the media since they were in the tank for Mr. Broccoli.

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