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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:47 AM Nov 2012

CIA: We Didn’t Ask for Help During Benghazi Attack

Source: TDB



by Eli Lake Nov 15, 2012 4:45 AM EST

The agency’s acting director will tell Congress today that agents on the ground the night Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed never requested military assistance, Eli Lake reports.


When the CIA’s acting director, Michael Morell, testifies Thursday before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he is expected to say that the agency never requested Europe-based special operations teams, specialized Marine platoons, or armed drones on the night of the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

The disclosure may put an end to one line of inquiry into the Benghazi affair about why reinforcements from the region were not sent on the night of the attack. “Assistance from the U.S. military was critical, and we got what we requested,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.

According to a Pentagon timeline made public last week, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta prepared multiple military responses from the region at around midnight Benghazi time, more than two hours after the initial assault began. Those orders included mobilizing two special Marine platoons known as Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) from Rota, Spain, to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also ordered a special operations force, training in central Europe, to deploy at the Signonella Airbase in Italy. Another special operations team based in the United States also prepared to deploy to Libya.

The CIA, however, requested none of that assistance. Neither did the State Department. None of those teams ever arrived in Benghazi.

-snip-


Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/15/cia-we-didn-t-ask-for-help-during-benghazi-attack.html

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CIA: We Didn’t Ask for Help During Benghazi Attack (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Ouch. Sorry McCain and Faux Thrill Nov 2012 #1
Someone Should Keep a Running Tally of GOP Conspiracy Theories toddmiller Nov 2012 #47
HAHAHAhahahaa. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #2
Sorry repubs, this thing's got no legs. Jester Messiah Nov 2012 #3
It was a CIA op. CIA doesn't want the military blowing its cover. mainer Nov 2012 #4
I wonder how they feel about craven republicans blowing their cover? Schema Thing Nov 2012 #6
I hope that they are really angry, and I suspect that they are. yardwork Nov 2012 #20
exactly-- this all goes to how how fucking stupid the GOPers are NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #24
I have always thought that CIA operatives were being run vlyons Nov 2012 #41
Oohh, toooo bad .. this won't provide cover for the Neo-Con Sexploits Scandal. Coyotl Nov 2012 #5
Do you know what a neo-con is? Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #11
Petraeus was the Neocons' best friend starroute Nov 2012 #18
More evidence deurbano Nov 2012 #22
Good read. I'm glad you posted. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #29
And who better to keep an eye on Petraeus than the CIA? LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #53
Eric Cantor cynzke Nov 2012 #39
I'm not sure that was Cantor's intention starroute Nov 2012 #44
Cantor was not going to use the info for doing President Obama any favors notadmblnd Nov 2012 #58
yes Coyotl Nov 2012 #49
There may be a lot of secret neocon exploits around Benghazi... AntiFascist Nov 2012 #48
But...but..what about the impeachment???..n/t monmouth3 Nov 2012 #7
There are still grounds for impeachment ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #9
Bingo -- anything to distract from the people's business Supersedeas Nov 2012 #16
or the fiscal cliff. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #30
Tea Party could hire Donald Trump as the special investigator. are_you_serious_1234 Nov 2012 #54
Maybe the Bad Whig party. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #57
Snort! are_you_serious_1234 Nov 2012 #62
Yeah, along with 2naSalit Nov 2012 #61
I forgot about him. are_you_serious_1234 Nov 2012 #63
yeah, we need to move forward with the impeachment of President Obama and his crimes against America Victor_c3 Nov 2012 #25
Excellent.. monmouth3 Nov 2012 #38
"...so you Republican hacks need to stop lying about this." - CIA Dude Berlum Nov 2012 #8
This doesn't mean that someones head will not roll though Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #10
“Assistance from the U.S. military was critical, and we got what we requested,” CJCRANE Nov 2012 #12
Did you read the OP? BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #23
A security officer from the diplomatic compound called the embassy in Tripoli, amandabeech Nov 2012 #59
I think that the "ball" 2naSalit Nov 2012 #32
Which will be reported on FauxNation as ... meegbear Nov 2012 #13
What in god's living hell Dokkie Nov 2012 #14
And you know this was a ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #19
I don't know if Stevens was at "a CIA torture prison," but... Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #31
Just a thought but 2naSalit Nov 2012 #33
Coffee and some rolls of tin foil maybe? Dokkie Nov 2012 #36
You know... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #45
Couldn't agree more with that post Dokkie Nov 2012 #35
It wasn't even a consulate. mainer Nov 2012 #43
Maybe this will help... AntiFascist Nov 2012 #50
Your lie was debunked before you retold it with flagrant added lying. Coyotl Nov 2012 #51
K/R Window Nov 2012 #15
It's still all Obama's fault... barnabas63 Nov 2012 #17
"It's a cover-up ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #21
EXACTLY correct! Faux News will say the WH pressured the CIA to testify as it did. valerief Nov 2012 #26
Exactly right.. dvhughes Nov 2012 #27
I doubt it. They already played their impeachment card and the public will see them politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2012 #34
OMG, imaginations are running out of the stable now Coyotl Nov 2012 #52
Well John2 Nov 2012 #28
McCain never has been fit for Office Milliesmom Nov 2012 #37
The Repukes will Regret Holding Hearings Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #40
Please proceed, GOP. tanyev Nov 2012 #55
Limpballs srichardson Nov 2012 #42
Morell Turbineguy Nov 2012 #46
K and R for the Cave people. Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #56
That's difficult to reconcile dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #60
who is 'we'? mrf901 Nov 2012 #64
No wonder the 5 traitors of democracy didn't attend that hearing. nc4bo Nov 2012 #65

toddmiller

(75 posts)
47. Someone Should Keep a Running Tally of GOP Conspiracy Theories
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

Someone Should Keep a Running Tally of GOP Conspiracy Theories and then break them down by the number that blow up in their faces vs. ones that don't. If you did IMO, you'd realize that the probability of any GOP conspiracy theory being correct is nil.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
4. It was a CIA op. CIA doesn't want the military blowing its cover.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:56 AM
Nov 2012

Of course they preferred to handle it themselves.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
20. I hope that they are really angry, and I suspect that they are.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

I suspect that the CIA got a twofer when they threw Petraeus under the bus. They got rid of him and they embarrassed the Republicans. And I think that they did it on purpose.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
41. I have always thought that CIA operatives were being run
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
Nov 2012

out of Benghazi. Of course they were! Probably assassin squads, or at least getting info about possible targets.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. Oohh, toooo bad .. this won't provide cover for the Neo-Con Sexploits Scandal.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:56 AM
Nov 2012

The Bush Neo-Cons Sexploits Scandal will be snatching the headlines instead

starroute

(12,977 posts)
18. Petraeus was the Neocons' best friend
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:12 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Neocons-Waterloo-by-Robert-Parry-121114-755.html

The decisive defeat of Mitt Romney in the presidential race and the forced resignation of ex-Gen. David Petraeus as CIA director have marginalized America's neoconservatives more than at any time in the past several decades, confining them mostly to Washington think tanks and media opinion circles.

The neocons bet heavily on a Romney victory as they envisioned a return to power, like what they enjoyed under President George W. Bush when they paved the way for the U.S. invasion of Iraq and dreamed of forcing "regime change" in Iran and Syria. During the campaign, Romney largely delegated his foreign policy to a cast of neocon retreads from the Bush era. . . .

The significance of Petraeus's resignation as CIA director is that the ex-four-star general was one of the neocons' last insiders who could be counted on to frustrate Obama's negotiations with Iran. Last year, Petraeus complicated U.S.-Iranian ties by pushing a dubious story about Iran planning a terrorist attack in Washington.

The White House and the Justice Department doubted that Iranian leaders were implicated in the harebrained scheme to assassinate the Saudi ambassador by blowing up a Washington restaurant. But Petraeus's CIA embraced the suspicions and won over the Washington press corps, which largely swallowed the story whole.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
29. Good read. I'm glad you posted.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:31 PM
Nov 2012

The article offers some hope for the direction of foreign policy.

This is fascinating:

To fill the CIA job, Obama named Petraeus partly to prevent the ambitious general from launching a political career as a Republican, including possibly becoming the GOP's presidential standard-bearer in 2012.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I like to think President Obama is such a discerning strategist.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
39. Eric Cantor
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

Looks like Obama owes Eric Cantor a heaping bowl of thanks for helping get Patraeus out of the CIA where it sounds like he was running his own foreign policy and with leaving Patraeus anchored to a sex scandal thus spoiling future political prospects to boot!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
44. I'm not sure that was Cantor's intention
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:02 PM
Nov 2012

I think he just wanted to make trouble for the president.

Besides, it's beginning to look like the CIA itself may have more reason than anyone to breathe a sigh of relief now that Petraeus is gone. He certainly wasn't a good fit there.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
58. Cantor was not going to use the info for doing President Obama any favors
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:02 PM
Nov 2012

You can bet your butt that Cantor was sitting on it while trying to figure out a way to use it against the President.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
48. There may be a lot of secret neocon exploits around Benghazi...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

I wish the Administration could just bring an end to all the games. If nothing else, we could certainly use the funding that would otherwise be spent on unending wars.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)
9. There are still grounds for impeachment ...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

... according to our constitution, we can't have a Kenyan president.

So, he's got to go.

The impeachment, and the furor over Benghazi, plus the Petraeus kerfuffle, these are ALL more important than dealing with jobs, taxes, or the fiscal cliff.

63. I forgot about him.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:19 PM
Nov 2012

The Arizona birther.

If this birth certificate crap wasn't so pathetic, it would be humorous. .

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
25. yeah, we need to move forward with the impeachment of President Obama and his crimes against America
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:13 PM
Nov 2012

I can't believe that I voted for that Kenyan born Muslim Socialist. If it wasnt for all of the handouts that I receive as a solidly middle-class white American I probably would have voted for Romney. Yup lets bring back the good ol' days - where women and minorities knew their place and gays stayed in the closet.

Obama should have handled Libya like bush #43 handled Iraq. Instead of commiting a minimal force and spending $896 million to topple Qadafi, he should have commited 100,000+ personnel and more than $808 billion to do the same thing. That's the way a true patriot like bush does it. If you love truly love the military and support the Soldiers, send them to fight a war based on a bullshit premise like bush did. That's how a real patriot does it!

(I hope you guys can pick up my sarcasm here. I absolutely love and believe in our president. He made me feel proud to be an American for the first time since I was a small boy.)

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
8. "...so you Republican hacks need to stop lying about this." - CIA Dude
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

"You Republicans and your propaganda catapults -- Fox, Rush, Hannity, and the other lameass draft-dodging chickenhawk hacks you overpay to spin your heinous crap -- need to STFU and sit down. Try supporting America for a change, instead of lying 24/7 about reality.."

- CIA Dude

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
10. This doesn't mean that someones head will not roll though
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:17 AM
Nov 2012

What I am hearing is that someone should have initiated help, at the Cia level by those in direct command as it is not disputed that the Cia did not have knowledge that the attack was happening as it happened. You would not wait to be asked for help. So who dropped the ball?

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
12. “Assistance from the U.S. military was critical, and we got what we requested,”
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:24 AM
Nov 2012

the senior U.S. intelligence official said.

There's no indication yet that anyone dropped the ball in the circumstances (except maybe Congress for refusing extra funding for embassy security).

Maybe we should wait until all the facts are in.

BouzoukiKing

(163 posts)
23. Did you read the OP?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:00 PM
Nov 2012

Do you see the conflict in what you're saying?

Firstly, Panetta initiated several channels of aid, without waiting for any requests. As he should have.

Secondly, if - as you say - "...someone should have initiated help, at the Cia level by those in direct command..." - how, exactly, were these CIA people supposed to know that help was needed? Because you go on to say that - "...the Cia did not have knowledge that the attack was happening as it happened."

??

It doesn't really sound like anyone "dropped the ball", does it?

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
59. A security officer from the diplomatic compound called the embassy in Tripoli,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
Nov 2012

some sort of extraction team (maybe the force that eventually pulled them out), and Washington.

It is not clear whether that person was CIA or whether he was an employee or contractor for the State Department since he was in the diplomatic compound.

There is no indication as to whom the security officer talked to in Washington.

This is from a reprint of a State Department telephone briefing reprinted in part on Oct. 16 by The Atlantic on line. The entire reprint is fascinating reading.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/the-amazing-story-of-what-happened-in-libya/263597/

2naSalit

(86,635 posts)
32. I think that the "ball"
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:56 PM
Nov 2012

Was being held in fmr genrl's hands and he refused to make the obvious play because he had an alternative "play strategy" that ended up blowing up in his face. I also contend that the sexy scandal was designed to be an easy "out" for him, orchestrated by the neocons and intended by them to keep him from the hearings. He did just return from a "fact finding" mission when he was outed as an adulterer. McCain can't keep his temper in check so I think that shill held his press conference at the time of the hearing so he could spout off about BS while he was being exposed, or at least his intentions were, in the hearings. I think that McCain might go down in this too. He hates the prez, has had it in for him since he lost the presidential election to him, and can't let go of a hatred. Especially since he's a devout follower/participant of/in the 1% principle.

I think the reign of the multi-trophy-home clan is about to come to a screeching halt. At least, that's what I'm hoping for.

meegbear

(25,438 posts)
13. Which will be reported on FauxNation as ...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
Nov 2012

"The agency’s acting director will tell Congress today that agents on the ground the night Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed ... requested military assistance, Eli Lake reports."

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
14. What in god's living hell
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

was an honorable Ambassador to the US doing at a CIA torture prison in the night of Sept 11 2012? That is what I would like to know

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. And you know this was a ...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

"CIA torture prison", how? Don't tell me ... you heard it on fox and saw it at theblaze and drudge, right?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
31. I don't know if Stevens was at "a CIA torture prison," but...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:20 PM
Nov 2012

...there are certainly lots of unanswered questions here that have little to do with pointing fingers over the Sept 11 attack.

Why did the CIA have a large base in Benghazi?

What were those CIA guys up to in Benghazi?

Were there Libyans being held by the CIA there, as Paula Broadwell let slip?

Was the CIA setting up gun-running operations to the Syrian rebels?

The fact that Republicans are attempting to make political hay over the attack should not distract us from trying to figure out just exactly what the hell our government is up to over there.

2naSalit

(86,635 posts)
33. Just a thought but
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:59 PM
Nov 2012

perhaps Broadwell's "slip" wasn't a "slip" but an orchestrated confirmation of the FuxNoose propaganda BS so that the red herring had a faux-credible source? I need more coffee, but I couldn't help wonder about that idea.

2naSalit

(86,635 posts)
45. You know...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:03 PM
Nov 2012

Thinking things out is important. The tin foil hat ruse is okay if that's what your version of "lalalala... I can't hear you" head in the sand belief system allows you. I, on the other hand have been witnessing too many insider hacks screwing America into buying too much BS to drive us blindly to ruin, and have little to no trust in anyone within the DC loop. Altruism claims are lost on them.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2012/11/11/a-covert-affair-petraeus-caught-in-the-honeypot/

Here's another thought that I suspect you'll include in your list of tin foil hats scenarios...

I bet that BibiN is now having his own little temper-tantrum over POB's win and is now going off on a W-stye pre-emptive whirlwind which is calculated to result in dragging us further down the rat-hole of endless war in the ME by bombing the hell out of Gaza today. He's gong to be the catalyst one way or another and he's not waiting for anyone to okay what he's doing. I think he's acting out at the recent resignation of one of the neocons best buddies last week. With him out of power, Bibi probably feels he needs to get things rolling and so we see what's happening in Gaza today. His actions are sure to give rise to retaliation in a big way, and that's what he wants. In his mind, he stands to gain a great deal from this.

Aside from using white phosphorus weaponry, he's looking to give the neocons a smoke-screen to attract their appetite for war that goes on forever, and likely so they can have control of the oil in the region. It's what they are all about and it's what will be the end of us as a nation eventually if we don't stop feeding the beast.

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
35. Couldn't agree more with that post
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone looking at this with an open mind knows that we don't have an embassy in Benghazi, rarely do the US have 2 embassies in an African country, talk-less of one that just been in a war. This is was most likely a covert operation run out of Benghazi which probably explains the silly reason given by the state dept for this attack.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
43. It wasn't even a consulate.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:41 PM
Nov 2012

Consulates are charged with issuing visas. The building in Benghazi didn't even do that.

It was mostly a space for meetings or other official events, scarcely staffed by permanent State Department personnel. This is NOT the place that more security was requested for.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
50. Maybe this will help...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:03 PM
Nov 2012

http://www.voltairenet.org/Once-NATO-enemies-in-Iraq-and

I ran across it last night. And, before anyone says something misleading, this is NOT based on Republican conspiracy theories. Neocons will try to push anything besides the actual truth.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
51. Your lie was debunked before you retold it with flagrant added lying.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:05 PM
Nov 2012

You are repeating the Fox/Broadwell lie as if it were fact, which had nothing to do with torture and postulated that prisoners were taken although that is against CIA rules today. Are you saying the CIA was kidnapping people?

barnabas63

(1,214 posts)
17. It's still all Obama's fault...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

say the right wing. Doesn't matter what anyone says or what the facts are - they can just ignore them.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
26. EXACTLY correct! Faux News will say the WH pressured the CIA to testify as it did.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:18 PM
Nov 2012

I can't even imagine all the names they'll call the Prez.

dvhughes

(50 posts)
27. Exactly right..
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:20 PM
Nov 2012

and this feigned outrage (along with the likes of FoxNews and Limbaugh to stoke the flame) is all that is needed to begin an impeachment hearing.

Mark my words.....since this procedure is initiated in the House of Reps, this will become an impeachment hearing.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
34. I doubt it. They already played their impeachment card and the public will see them
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:02 PM
Nov 2012

as the obstructionists that they are if they try it again. Besides the entire House has to run again in 2014. Also, they wouldn't have the votes in the House to remove from office. Obama is still in charge of the Justice Dept and he could tell his Atty Gen to take another look at those Bush era high crimes and misdemeanors if they want to play that game. Obama pretty much gave a lot of people a free pass when he came into office in order to unify the nation. If the hatemongers try to bring him down, which they can't, what's to stop him from resurrecting some of their sins and investigating all their peeps.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
52. OMG, imaginations are running out of the stable now
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:08 PM
Nov 2012

This feigned outrage will get them nowhere. They are nothings. They live in their own echo chamber.

This is all about keeping their base in check at a time when there should be a mass exodus!

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
28. Well
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:21 PM
Nov 2012

I just heard a pundit bring out McCain Hypocracy when asking a question to a GOP surrogate. Just as I expected the first thing he took cover behind was to bring up a War decades ago and why McCain's credibility shouldn't be questioned. Well, like I said a lot of servicemen served in Vietnam and suffered but got no credit for it. McCain should not be able to hide behind his service in Vietnam just because he was a POW and that is what he has been hiding behind most of his career. This is coming from a veteran too. McCain has lost credibility and does not deserve to be a U.S. Senator as far as I'm concerned. You are the one needs to go McCain and I will keep using my first Amendment Rights to say so. You can only use your past service for so long.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
37. McCain never has been fit for Office
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

The ACSA challenges Senator McCain on his legislative history of Human Rights Violations: "a Skeleton in his closet: UNFIT to hold public office!"

(Public Law 93-531 as amended in 1996 (Partition), 1999 (Settlement), 2001 (Enforcement of Resettlement) and 2005 (Expansion of Resettlement) by bills introduced by Senator McCain - has led to the United Nations Special Rapporteur, Hon Abdeltalif Amor's condemnation of human rights violations inside the US, over the stripping of rights and forced resettlement of these gentle and deeply spiritual band of Dineh-Navajo Indians from Arizona, swept off of lands they'd owned since 1500 A.D. so that Peabody Western Coal could mine the Coal from beneath their farmlands and tap their wells to slurry pipe it to a power station in Nevada).





http://acsa2000.net/cain2004.org/Dine-Navajo-PressRelease.htm

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
40. The Repukes will Regret Holding Hearings
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

Once all the information about Benghazi comes out at the hearing the Repukes will look like idiots. Again.

srichardson

(81 posts)
42. Limpballs
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:46 PM
Nov 2012

is using the excuse Mr. Morelli is/was lying to cover up the scandolous incident. Even when there is NO scandal, Limpballs,Beck, Hannity and the rest of the crazies will make up their own.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
60. That's difficult to reconcile
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:34 PM
Nov 2012

with the two deaths which occurred with those called over to the scene from Tripoli. They were ambushed en route to the scene.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
65. No wonder the 5 traitors of democracy didn't attend that hearing.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:14 AM
Nov 2012

No damn wonder.

Just how long will they be able to tow this great Benghazi lie?

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