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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:00 AM Nov 2012

Five-Hour Energy Linked to Heart Attacks, 'Spontaneous Abortion'

Source: The Atlantic

You know those little vials of who-knows-what that TV bills as a healthier alternative to energy drinks? Turns out they might make you die. Or to be more specific, the flavored energy shot "has been mentioned in some 90 filings with the F.D.A., including more than 30 that involved serious or life-threatening injuries like heart attacks, convulsions and, in one case, a spontaneous abortion," according to a New York Times investigation.

Don't worry, 5-Hour Energy fans, Monster Energy drink is a culprit, too. Following a review of FDA records, The Times found that 5-Hour Energy was implicated in at least 13 deaths over the last four years, while Monster was cited in five deaths in a review last month. Both the paper and the FDA are careful to point out that correlation does not equal causation in these horrifying examples of pick-me-ups gone wrong. Nevertheless, we're pretty sure coffee will remain our stimulant of choice for the foreseeable future.

The scariest thing about the Times report isn't necessarily the threat of heart attack or spontaneous abortion. It's the fact that nobody really knows what's going on with energy drinks -- or in 5-Hour Energy's case "dietary supplements" -- that become implicated in fatalities. Even scarier, is that the companies making these potions know that it's happening. They're required by federal law to report cases that link their products to fatalities to the FDA. They don't want to talk about it either. "I am not interested in making any comment," Manoj Bhargava, the chief executive of Living Essentials, the company that makes 5-Hour Energy. (Go ahead and let the irony of that company name sink in.)

We're immediately reminded of the Four Loko debacle from a couple of years back. In case you forgot, some brilliant product team decided that it would be a good idea to take all of the ingredients in your standard energy drink -- caffeine, taurine, B vitamins -- and mix it with high proof malt liquor and sell it for about two bucks a can. Fast forward a few months later, and people were dead after drinking the stuff, a horrible turn of events that eventually caused the government to ban the formula. It was eventually re-released without all of the energy additives. Fast forward a few more months later, and America figured out a way to bring back to old upper-downer specialty cocktail. Just drop a 5-Hour Energy into a can of Four Loko and BOOM! You've got yourself an evening of fun. Or heart attacks.

Read more: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2012/11/five-hour-energy-linked-heart-attacks-spontaneous-abortion/59025/

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Five-Hour Energy Linked to Heart Attacks, 'Spontaneous Abortion' (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2012 OP
If pot killed that many people in the same time periods… Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #1
well duh...that shit would blow up my heart madrchsod Nov 2012 #2
You took the word right out of my mouth... SoapBox Nov 2012 #3
It makes you clumsy too. Fuddnik Nov 2012 #4
I have friends that have worked in the Monster factory in Corona, CA..... Socal31 Nov 2012 #5
A mountain dew makes my heart flutter. Ash_F Nov 2012 #6
I had one once TlalocW Nov 2012 #7
Are you ADHD? defacto7 Nov 2012 #9
I'm not sure TlalocW Nov 2012 #13
No, you're probably not... defacto7 Nov 2012 #16
I have ADHD and stimulants relax me and help me focus. Ashgrey77 Nov 2012 #33
I also have ADHD and am on stimulants meow2u3 Nov 2012 #37
Well I didn't say it before defacto7 Nov 2012 #44
I tried that stuff once. Made me feel very uncomfortable. truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #8
I tried it once also. RebelOne Nov 2012 #28
I tried one of those a year or two ago. MADem Nov 2012 #10
No matter what people say, it's fabulous stuff. Daemonaquila Nov 2012 #11
My sister says she's used it. kentauros Nov 2012 #29
Whatever happened to Jolt Cola? Deep13 Nov 2012 #12
call me a traditionalist, but i'd take jolt cola over any of those crappy energy swills any day. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #18
They have it in gum sakabatou Nov 2012 #30
what a shock. I thought that was health food. olddad56 Nov 2012 #14
I think the point is, it will be another failure of our FDA. I remember when our products were aweso Sundome Nov 2012 #15
The 5-hour energy company was giving away free samples at my college. alp227 Nov 2012 #17
What a bunch of fucking sensationalist bullshit. harmonicon Nov 2012 #19
I will only drink half of a Full Throttle, because it has 200mg of caffeine Kolesar Nov 2012 #20
I think you need to cut back on the Five-Hour Energys. nt onehandle Nov 2012 #21
I think you need to quit telling people how to live. Ashgrey77 Nov 2012 #34
I think you need to look up the definition of 'joke.' onehandle Nov 2012 #39
I drink the "six hour energy" - it's cheaper from the gas station. (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #45
Just for reference dkhbrit Nov 2012 #22
And understand the implications of drinking coffee on cardiac health Coyotl Nov 2012 #23
Oh good lordy. Daemonaquila Nov 2012 #24
Where did we used to get energy? MyTwoSense Nov 2012 #25
Manoj Bhargava: The 'billionaire monk'? FrodosPet Nov 2012 #26
Free Market No-Reg, No Tax, No Healthcare Republicans are okay with poisoning your for money....nt Evasporque Nov 2012 #27
heart attack I understand dlwickham Nov 2012 #31
No, "spontaneous abortion" is a valid medical term for miscarriage. gkhouston Nov 2012 #40
okay dlwickham Nov 2012 #42
It's not something you hear every day. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #43
I tried it once and it didn't really do anything for me. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #32
I've had a problem with insomnia for years, sekha68 Nov 2012 #35
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #36
Thank you! sekha68 Nov 2012 #38
You mean niacin ODs aren't good for you? Who knew? jmowreader Nov 2012 #41
Jebus, St Johns Wort makes me feel like i'm going to explode ... Myrina Nov 2012 #46

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
2. well duh...that shit would blow up my heart
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:15 AM
Nov 2012

course i`m an old guy.



that shit is bad for anyone young or old.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
4. It makes you clumsy too.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:51 AM
Nov 2012

Look at all the passes Braylon Edwards dropped after he started endorsing it.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
5. I have friends that have worked in the Monster factory in Corona, CA.....
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:53 AM
Nov 2012

Apparently they had free access to a fridge with as many Monster drinks as they could take. He said anybody who worked on the floor where they could see/smell the ingredients never touched them.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
6. A mountain dew makes my heart flutter.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:01 AM
Nov 2012

Would not dare drink one of those things. Why would a pregnant woman do it either?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
9. Are you ADHD?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:24 AM
Nov 2012

Just wondering. If things that make most people wake up or feel buzzed make you feel relaxed or sleepy, that's one of the signs of ADHD in adults. That's why they treat ADHD with uppers like Dextroamphetamine.

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
13. I'm not sure
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:54 AM
Nov 2012

It was actually at a job. I'm a computer programmer, and I had started this new job where they promised me plenty of work, and after finishing one project really quickly, things just kind of dried up, and I'm the type of person who if I'm not mentally stimulated can fall asleep pretty easily so I thought I would try one of them. Apparently my ability to sleep anywhere was too powerful.

TlalocW

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. No, you're probably not...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:03 AM
Nov 2012

If you were, you would probably work fast then instead of drying up you'd bash into the next project and get frustrated that you were making mistakes and start acting like a real ass... then you'd drink a venti quint latte w/o the latte which would clam you down, you'd go back to work till your next venti quint 15 minutes later. Then you'd go home and take an amphetamine before bed or you'd be up all night.

A little exaggerated but it's close.

Ashgrey77

(236 posts)
33. I have ADHD and stimulants relax me and help me focus.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:03 PM
Nov 2012

They do not make me tired and they still give me a "buzz".

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
37. I also have ADHD and am on stimulants
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:49 PM
Nov 2012

I don't get a buzz from stimulants. BTA, I've been on them for a number of years without any signs of addiction.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
44. Well I didn't say it before
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:48 AM
Nov 2012

But me too. I've been on Dexedrine for about 5 years. No addiction, no side effects, it just smooths out the rough edges and makes me more calm. I drink a hell of a lot of coffee too without any buzz at all. It's kind of weird.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
28. I tried it once also.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
Nov 2012

I did not buy it. I got it as a free sample from the Internet. It sat on my bathroom shelf for a few months. One morning, I was feeling sort of sluggish. Boy, that stuff was great and got me moving. I was thinking about buying some, but now after hearing the bad reports, I am hesitant. I have high blood pressure, so I guess I won't take any chances.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. I tried one of those a year or two ago.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:27 AM
Nov 2012

It tasted like crap.

I didn't notice any energy boost. I didn't notice anything.

It was expensive, I thought.

I also thought "rip off" and that was the last time I ever used the stuff.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
11. No matter what people say, it's fabulous stuff.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:34 AM
Nov 2012

It's not something that you can use all the time like their commercials say - it won't have much effect if used more than about once a week - and it does smell and taste like horse urine mixed with horrifying artificial fruit flavor, but there's nothing like it for 3 AM hell rides.

Spontaneous abortions? Bonus.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
29. My sister says she's used it.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

She's a school teacher, so I guess she needs it every now and then. The biggest problem with it (other than the taste) according to her, is that it's not also called "5-Hour Motivation"

 

BlueMan Votes

(903 posts)
18. call me a traditionalist, but i'd take jolt cola over any of those crappy energy swills any day.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:29 AM
Nov 2012

i don't do coffee either. EVER.

or tea. SOMETIMES.

and i haven't seen any quality illicit amphetamines since college.

unless you count adderall(most people do).

Sundome

(26 posts)
15. I think the point is, it will be another failure of our FDA. I remember when our products were aweso
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:30 AM
Nov 2012

before the RW started gutting the whole processes of testing and trials, and made it far easier for products to be approved in the US.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
17. The 5-hour energy company was giving away free samples at my college.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:17 AM
Nov 2012

Glad I came upon this article now. Thanks for posting.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
19. What a bunch of fucking sensationalist bullshit.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:22 AM
Nov 2012

"Both the paper and the FDA are careful to point out that correlation does not equal causation" Not shit? Who fucking knew? What? Anyone with an elementary school education? No shit.

IT'S FUCKING CAFFEINE AND VITAMINS. That's all. Chill the fuck out.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
20. I will only drink half of a Full Throttle, because it has 200mg of caffeine
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:33 AM
Nov 2012

200mg is like "three cups of coffee". That stimulant causes an adrenaline release and could be stressful on the heart.

You have a point about the hype, though. I love Full Throttle; I think it's the D-ribose that does it for me.

dkhbrit

(110 posts)
22. Just for reference
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:25 AM
Nov 2012

Go and look at Starbucks nutrition. One of their large coffees contains more caffeine than an energy drink. if folks who make coffee were required to report the same information, you'd see exactly the same I'm sure. All this report does is say that some people who drink energy drinks die. Just the same as some people who drink coffee, or do laundry, or eat vegetables die. Until causation can be proved, this is sensationalist bullshit. Please be educated and seek out the facts.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
23. And understand the implications of drinking coffee on cardiac health
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:43 AM
Nov 2012

especially if you are elderly, have high blood pressure, want higher blood pressure, etc.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
24. Oh good lordy.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:03 AM
Nov 2012

Yeah, yeah, and eggs, bacon, red meat, soda, alcohol, whatever. Sex and car wrecks sell newspapers, and so does sensationalist concern trolling. Unless a person has very specific health problems, consuming all things in moderation is FINE. Many of us are sick of the hysteria.

 

MyTwoSense

(46 posts)
25. Where did we used to get energy?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:07 AM
Nov 2012

What did we ever do for energy before these things came out? What happened to a restful sleep, good food, and a little exercise? Energy in a can for people who seldom exert themselves.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
26. Manoj Bhargava: The 'billionaire monk'?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-buck-stops-here/manoj-bhargava-the-billionaire-monk/228920?hp

"By some accounts, he might be the richest Indian in the US today but very few people have heard about entrepreneur Manoj Bhargava. Today, we give you the man behind 5-Hour Energy, a heady concoction of caffeine, vitamins and nutrients."

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
31. heart attack I understand
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:39 PM
Nov 2012

but the miscarriage I don't

I think the use of the word abortion is incorrect in this case

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
40. No, "spontaneous abortion" is a valid medical term for miscarriage.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:50 PM
Nov 2012

"Threatened abortion" is when they think you might lose the pregnancy, but haven't so far.

sekha68

(12 posts)
35. I've had a problem with insomnia for years,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:40 PM
Nov 2012

so I have tried a couple of these energy pills/drinks over the years, including 5-Hour. I finally stopped messing with them, because along with the short-lived energy boost, I have found that (for me, at least) they induce palpitations, nervousness, and in the worst case, some pretty severe anxiety. I guess I'd rather be a little tired during the day than stuck in a cubicle with a full-blown anxiety attack.

sekha68

(12 posts)
38. Thank you!
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:57 PM
Nov 2012

I'm not actually "new"...I was a DU'er for several years, starting somewhere around 2001-2002, I believe, under the name "Suspicious." I was offline for a bit and had to re-request my password. Somewhere along the line, something must have changed, because the Admins sent me entirely new logon info back in 2010. Regardless, I am happy to be back!

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
41. You mean niacin ODs aren't good for you? Who knew?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:57 PM
Nov 2012

Those things work by dumping a ton of niacin into your system.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
46. Jebus, St Johns Wort makes me feel like i'm going to explode ...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

... I can't imagine mainlining as much of that energy-drink crap as some people I work with, do.


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