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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:18 PM Nov 2012

Petraeus mistress had substantial classified data on computer: sources

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - A computer used by Paula Broadwell, the woman whose affair with CIA Director David Petraeus led to his resignation, contained substantial classified information that should have been stored under more secure conditions, law enforcement and national security officials said on Wednesday.

The contents and amount of the classified material - and questions about how Broadwell got it - are significant enough to warrant a continuing investigation, the officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to comment publicly.

The details about material held by Broadwell, a reserve officer in military intelligence, emerged Wednesday as the Pentagon suspended her security clearance. There are growing concerns among military and law enforcement officials about the potential fallout from the affair between Petraeus and Broadwell, who co-authored a biography of the retired general.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/15/us-usa-generals-idUSBRE8AD0GT20121115

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Petraeus mistress had substantial classified data on computer: sources (Original Post) jsr Nov 2012 OP
I wonder whether Petraeus or anyone else will end up facing charges over this scandal. Fridays Child Nov 2012 #1
Well, couldn't they go two ways with this? KansDem Nov 2012 #4
she is a spy maindawg Nov 2012 #2
How do we know she isn't a spy? Ilsa Nov 2012 #3
Something isn't right. What about their husbands, relatives background. Lebanon = the Kelley Purveyor Nov 2012 #5
If something goes bump in the night at your house, is it automatically the Mossad? AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #16
You John2 Nov 2012 #27
That is also what I think. glinda Nov 2012 #8
Let's make this better. 2 points GP6971 Nov 2012 #6
This - is - too - strange. Kablooie Nov 2012 #7
Wonder if there is any connection with her (Kelly) being Lebanese and also glinda Nov 2012 #9
Honorary Counsel is basically a business agent. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #12
Agree GP6971 Nov 2012 #13
Whoever gave her access is in deep shit Marrah_G Nov 2012 #10
Patraeus helped, Kelley said aletier_v Nov 2012 #14
Looks like she tried to "sell" access to "high level" S Korea officials rainbow4321 Nov 2012 #25
Wonder if they will give her the Manning treatment? Ash_F Nov 2012 #11
If the analogy here is to wikileaks... Volaris Nov 2012 #15
It says in the article she was military intelligence OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #17
This is about Broadwell, not Kelly Sgent Nov 2012 #18
Everybody works from home now aletier_v Nov 2012 #20
Even if you have a clearance, you can't take classified info home or store it on unsecure computers. JaneQPublic Nov 2012 #24
there are different levels of classification aletier_v Nov 2012 #29
Sure, and what I described was for the lowest: JaneQPublic Nov 2012 #30
Wouldn't waterboarding be the most effective method to arrive at the truth? FarCenter Nov 2012 #19
MmmHmmm montanto Nov 2012 #28
Move along folks, nothing here Milliesmom Nov 2012 #21
It's not "nothing but an affair" when intelligence or military personnel are involved rocktivity Nov 2012 #26
Some interesting reading... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #22
Following links within links... AntiFascist Nov 2012 #23
Good question 2naSalit Nov 2012 #31
Thanks for posting. To read later. snagglepuss Nov 2012 #33
The Kelley/Khawam twins ... a serenade libdem4life Nov 2012 #32

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
4. Well, couldn't they go two ways with this?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

Either throw the suspect(s) into solitary for a long time (B. Manning) or shrug one's shoulders (R. Novak)

We'll see which way they take!

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
2. she is a spy
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:29 PM
Nov 2012

a republican spy.she is a republican spy.spying on another republican for some other republicans

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
5. Something isn't right. What about their husbands, relatives background. Lebanon = the Kelley
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:36 PM
Nov 2012

gal.

Nope. Something isn't right, not at all.

Mossad op? Read 'By Way Of Deception" and you won't count it out.

Stay tuned.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. If something goes bump in the night at your house, is it automatically the Mossad?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:23 AM
Nov 2012

Seriously.


My money is on 'access hungry asshole', like most leakers, with a few notable whistleblowing exceptions.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
27. You
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

do know Issa also has a Lebanese background too don't you? Chaffetz is also a Mormon. I think everything may point to bringing down President Obama. I as a veteran, just don't agree with the pundits and everybody defending Allen's and Petraeus relationships. These two commanders were in charge of our Troops and National Security. Both are in the chain of Command under the President. These people are too cozy with the Republican Party and they do have influence over subordinates. It is a disturbing picture when you have 20,000 to 30,000 communications to our Top commander in Afghanistan by this person Kelly. They also used their rank to help her in a judicial matter which I see as an abuse.

Apparently associates like senator Fienstein see no problem with that. so that raises questions from about her associations in the military and if she is abusing her office? Bring it all out in the open so the American people can see? How does a pundit on MSNBC (S.E.) know about two democrats that will support John McCain and Lindsey Graham against Susan Rice? Spit it out S.E. since you are in loop? I think the President can handle it. So what is hatching in this web of the Black Widow?

GP6971

(31,165 posts)
6. Let's make this better. 2 points
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:40 PM
Nov 2012

1. Classified information, to my knowledge, can never store on unapproved computers or non government approved safes.

2. Jill Kelley. Must be a lot of senior military personnel biting their nails. She is a honorary consuler official for the government of South Korea. That, in my opinion, makes her a foreign agent. Anyone with a security clearance must report all contacts with foreign agents.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
9. Wonder if there is any connection with her (Kelly) being Lebanese and also
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:06 PM
Nov 2012

the past incident of destroying Gov. Documents stuffs.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014234215


or getting rid of incriminating Bushio connected 9-11.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
12. Honorary Counsel is basically a business agent.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:41 PM
Nov 2012

They aren't a diplomat or other government official. Possibly they may help getting a visa or something, but not actually do the issuing. Although Kelley viewed it as a title, its probably lower status than having a law degree or PHD.

GP6971

(31,165 posts)
13. Agree
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:51 PM
Nov 2012

But in the security world, they are still technically classed as foreign agents..........low priority and low level, but still a foreign agent.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
10. Whoever gave her access is in deep shit
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:23 PM
Nov 2012

and so is she.

Even if she had top secret clearance.... information is on a need to know basis. A real need.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
25. Looks like she tried to "sell" access to "high level" S Korea officials
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 06:09 AM
Nov 2012

Per the article..telling the guy who wanted to start a coal gasification project in S Korea. I'm betting if this stinky info gets to the S Korea officials, they will yank her title..selling access, never a good thing to pitch!

And what is up with the part that says the State Dept approving her for the consul role? Good grief...way to go State Dept.

On edit: I'm thinking her "access" to high officials was a line just to get the guy's money

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
11. Wonder if they will give her the Manning treatment?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:37 PM
Nov 2012

Nah, she was rolling with a general. Consequences are for the enlisted.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
15. If the analogy here is to wikileaks...
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:06 AM
Nov 2012

doesen't this make her the equalivant of Julian Assange? (RECEIVING classified information?) And PATREAUS the equalivant of Manning?...

OnlinePoker

(5,721 posts)
17. It says in the article she was military intelligence
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:36 AM
Nov 2012

This means she could have accessed the material from her own work (and we will never know because there is no way they will tell us what classified documents are there). Or, she could have gotten some from her work and some from Patreaus. This would make her a hybrid...a Bradley Assange or Julian Manning so to speak.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
18. This is about Broadwell, not Kelly
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:44 AM
Nov 2012

Broadwell is a West Point grad who is still a member of the reserves and is in military intelligence. She probably has secret or top secret clearance and the data found may very well be related to her official duties.

Now, why she had it on her home computer is a different issue.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
24. Even if you have a clearance, you can't take classified info home or store it on unsecure computers.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:20 AM
Nov 2012

I used to work with classified documents, and even while I was on a military base and in a secure facility, I wasn't allowed to let the document out of my sight -- ever. That meant taking the document along on walks to the coffee machine or to the bathroom.

And as far as soft copies go, you certainly aren't allowed to make copies of documents, as they can only be viewed on secure computers.

The fact that Broadwell broke all these rules is no doubt the reason her clearance was revoked.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
30. Sure, and what I described was for the lowest:
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:41 PM
Nov 2012

Confidential. Secret, Top Secret, etc. are much more severe.

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
21. Move along folks, nothing here
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:45 AM
Nov 2012

Nothing but an affair, that is all, no laws broken as I said when it happened, it was made so big by the media, it is not anything but an affair, two marriages ruined and four children very upset about their parents . The Republicans do it all the time, so how are Democrats any different, only human I guess, as President Obama always says, mistakes are made and we will make more.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
26. It's not "nothing but an affair" when intelligence or military personnel are involved
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:21 AM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:34 PM - Edit history (2)

because affairs make them blackmail-able -- by enemies foreign AND domestic.

Do you want the head of the CIA, Secret Service or Pentagon giving their commander-in-chief bad advice or false information because they'll be exposed if they don't?


rocktivity

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
31. Good question
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:21 PM
Nov 2012

I would speculate that the answer is yes but who is driving that machine? I suspect that it may be something outside of government, there are entities that are as powerful or maybe more so than some governing bodies. Certain fossil fuel outfits come to mind, some of which have been operating in the gulf since WWII. Some of them have merged to become the most powerful entities on the planet. Another reason to eschew fossil fuels, and somehow dismantle the mic. Just my musings but I'm sure there's something to it since it's always about the oil and revenues acquired through that commodity. Mic can't function all that well without constant supply of that one element... the second most important commodity being humans to shoot weapons and to be shot at, makes for the emotive factor that recruits public support.

Good find.

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