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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:11 AM Nov 2012

Survivors File U.N. Complaint Against Canada for Failing to Prosecute George W. Bush for Torture

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Source: Center for Constitutional Rights

Survivors File U.N. Complaint Against Canada for Failing to Prosecute George W. Bush for Torture

press@ccrjustice.org

November 14, 2012, Vancouver and New York— Today, four torture survivors filed a complaint against Canada with the United Nations Committee against Torture for the country’s failure to investigate and prosecute former President George W. Bush during his visit to British Columbia last year. As a signatory to the Convention against Torture, Canada has an obligation to investigate and prosecute a torture suspect on its soil. This is the first time a complaint concerning torture allegations against a high-level U.S. official has been filed with the U.N. Committee. The Canadian Centre for International Justice (CCIJ) and the U.S.-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) filed the complaint on the men’s behalf.

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The four men – Hassan bin Attash, Sami el-Hajj, Muhammed Khan Tumani and Murat Kurnaz – found their long quest for justice stymied in October 2011. Canada’s Attorney General refused to conduct a criminal investigation against Mr. Bush, and the Attorney General of British Columbia swiftly intervened to shut down a private criminal prosecution submitted to a provincial court in her jurisdiction during Mr. Bush’s visit. This occurred despite the groups’ submission of a 69-page draft indictment and approximately 4000 pages of evidence against Bush consisting of extensive reports and investigations conducted by multiple U.S. agencies and the United Nations.

The Committee against Torture can require Canada to explain the actions that led to the case being closed without any investigation and can then issue a decision on whether Canada has breached its obligations under the convention. If the committee finds Canada in violation, it can specify appropriate remedial measures.

“Through this process, the world can learn whether Canada’s actions were grounded in law or in politics. Canada’s refusal to investigate and prosecute George W. Bush marked a low-point in the ongoing struggle to end impunity for torturers and denied these men the opportunity to achieve some measure of justice,” said Katherine Gallagher, Senior Staff Attorney at CCR and legal representative for the men.“They now call upon the Committee to send a clear message that states must uphold their obligations under the Convention against Torture and cannot allow other factors – including political considerations – to interfere with the commitment to end impunity for torturers.”

Read more: http://ccrjustice.org/newsroom/press-releases/survivors-file-u.n.-complaint-against-canada-failing-prosecute-george-w.-bush-torture

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Survivors File U.N. Complaint Against Canada for Failing to Prosecute George W. Bush for Torture (Original Post) Hissyspit Nov 2012 OP
I hope some coutry "renditions" any and all of those Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/Rice/Wu/Wolfowitcz xtraxritical Nov 2012 #1
me too barbtries Nov 2012 #8
Darth was a smart guy bongbong Nov 2012 #2
Our government is... CanSocDem Nov 2012 #3
That's an insult to embarrassments. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #20
Oh, so Canada has to be held responsible for Bush? Darth_Kitten Nov 2012 #26
If Bush was wanted everywhere except America Ash_F Nov 2012 #28
I heaven05 Nov 2012 #4
To the Hague! texpatriot2004 Nov 2012 #11
Bush cannot leave the US in any case GREAT NEWS BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #5
Well, he's apparently safe in the Cayman Islands. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #7
he heaven05 Nov 2012 #15
I hope the world get's smaller and smaller for George Bush, until he is crunch60 Nov 2012 #24
"Oh shit." - George AWOL Bush (R) Berlum Nov 2012 #6
Oh, I like your pic texpatriot2004 Nov 2012 #10
I want to put Cheney in there with him, as he was directing the entire show. crunch60 Nov 2012 #12
Indeed he was, the texpatriot2004 Nov 2012 #21
I very much appreciate this photo! Gonna make a copy of it. calimary Nov 2012 #14
I'm a Canadian, and I approve of this complaint Bragi Nov 2012 #9
exprezbigdog heaven05 Nov 2012 #16
Bill Clinton has been adopted into "The Family" Hydra Nov 2012 #17
Bill Clinton, shame on you, putting yourself in company with the war criminal George Bush! crunch60 Nov 2012 #23
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2012 #13
You know, a DUer told me the other day that Hydra Nov 2012 #18
I agree with you completely, many suffered under the Bush'Cheney regime, and those that are crunch60 Nov 2012 #22
Yeah, it's way too difficult to prove it. JoeyT Nov 2012 #25
If someone says "It's too difficult to prove Bush's war crimes" to you here, Hissyspit Nov 2012 #27
Not seeing them libodem Nov 2012 #19
 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
1. I hope some coutry "renditions" any and all of those Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/Rice/Wu/Wolfowitcz
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
Nov 2012

mother f^^kers.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
3. Our government is...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:31 AM
Nov 2012


...a massive embarrassment, nationally and globally. My apologies to everybody and know that we are committed to removing them from the world stage.

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Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
28. If Bush was wanted everywhere except America
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe Americans will finally get it.
















Then again, maybe not.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. I
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:34 AM
Nov 2012

would love to see bushmonkey, darth, rove, rice, rumsfeld in the docket at the world court in the Hague. That would so make my day, week, month, year, decade and on and on.......

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
5. Bush cannot leave the US in any case GREAT NEWS
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

Here is something that appears in the article:

In February 2011, the Center for Constitutional Rights, on behalf of two survivors and supported by CCIJ and other human rights organizations, attempted to initiate criminal proceedings against Bush ahead of a scheduled visit to Switzerland. Bush cancelled the trip after news of the prosecution..became known.


I'm so glad at least that if Bush leaves the country other than Canada, he WILL be arrested! Great news!!
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
7. Well, he's apparently safe in the Cayman Islands.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:12 PM
Nov 2012

Late in the campaign, while Bill Clinton was tirelessly stumping for Obama, Bush was doing Romney a favor of even greater value -- he was making himself scarce. Part of his itinerary was a trip to the Caymans to speak at some fat-cat conference. Maybe Mitt told him, "Say 'hi' to my money while you're there."

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. he
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

was in the caymans recently to give some speech to some financial fat cats. God! I wish he had been taken in handcuffs to the Hague in full view of the world.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
24. I hope the world get's smaller and smaller for George Bush, until he is
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:23 PM
Nov 2012

relegated to sit on his ranch, getting drunk on little cocktails, unable to leave for fear of being whisked off to a dark hole somewhere.

calimary

(81,523 posts)
14. I very much appreciate this photo! Gonna make a copy of it.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:12 PM
Nov 2012

VERY helpful for visualization exercises! Thanks for posting, Berlum!

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
9. I'm a Canadian, and I approve of this complaint
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:30 PM
Nov 2012

I was disgusted how Bush came to Canada to appear before big biz audiences.

And I was particularly appalled that Bill Clinton was PR wingman for this POS war criminal.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/10/20/bc-george-w-bush-protest-surrey.html

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. exprezbigdog
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:15 PM
Nov 2012

is somewhat forgiven because of his surrogacy during the past election cycle of our present POTUS.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
17. Bill Clinton has been adopted into "The Family"
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:17 PM
Nov 2012

He did exceptional work for them despite all the crap they flung at him.

Anytime you see him do something, keep in mind Poppy is standing behind him.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
18. You know, a DUer told me the other day that
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:38 PM
Nov 2012

"It's too difficult to prove Bush's war crimes"

I think even the people here have a short memory. These people are living EVIDENCE of war crimes.

Maher Arar isn't even listed in the article, but he was picked up and shipped out for 9 months of torture. Ironically, he was a Canadian Citizen.

The BS of the Bush Era is not some fairy tale. It had real victims and real consequences...but somehow that's all faded from view, and the perps have gotten protection from prosecution.

Sad commentary on our "civilization."

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
22. I agree with you completely, many suffered under the Bush'Cheney regime, and those that are
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:06 PM
Nov 2012

still alive, will continue to suffer for years. Because of the extraordinary, diligent, people such as Simon Wiesenthal, Holocaust survivor, many Nazi war criminals were brought to justice, even though it took many years. Never Forget, It's never to late.
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The United States Congress is outraged because Russia appears to have imprisoned, tortured, and murdered a whistle blower. Meanwhile George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney are selling books in which they openly confess to the crime of war and all that comes with it, including lawless imprisonment and torture.

Tell Congress to punish Bush and Cheney first!

Freeze their assets. Ban their travel. Impeach them, convict them, and remove their pensions while banning them from ever again holding federal office. Censure them. Expose the evidence. Refer criminal prosecutions to the Department of Justice.

http://rootsaction.org/take-action/449-punish-bush-and-cheney-first

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
25. Yeah, it's way too difficult to prove it.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:31 AM
Nov 2012

I mean, where would we get the evidence. Sure Cheney admitted to torturing people on national television, but other than that what could we possibly use for proof?



There, all the proof they need. The alleged non-torture he's admitting to was one of the things we convicted Japanese soldiers of war crimes for after WW2.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
27. If someone says "It's too difficult to prove Bush's war crimes" to you here,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:07 PM
Nov 2012

it's not that they have a short memory, it's that they are tossing bullshit at you.

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