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reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:37 AM Nov 2012

Federal agents arrest 34 white supremacists

Source: By Sari Horwitz / The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — Federal agents arrested dozens of members of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas on Friday and charged them with murder, kidnapping, racketeering and conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine.

A 43-page federal indictment unsealed by the Justice Department names 34 members of the violent organized crime group who have been charged, including four of its senior leaders.

Read more: http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20121110/NEWS0107/211100359/

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Federal agents arrest 34 white supremacists (Original Post) reACTIONary Nov 2012 OP
34 less Republican voters. n/t Daniel537 Nov 2012 #1
I am curious if those folks actually DO vote. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #9
If they are a felon, they may not. It depends....... vduhr Nov 2012 #20
Once you're off in things like Aryan Brotherhood territory, probably not Posteritatis Nov 2012 #39
They "influence" voters but bjobotts Nov 2012 #48
I would bet no Scairp Nov 2012 #62
They probably vote third party Ter Nov 2012 #34
True enough Daniel537 Nov 2012 #58
Probably somewhat less Major Nikon Nov 2012 #37
if they were 34 crips arrested Mosby Nov 2012 #38
Can you point me towards prolific Democratic support and appeal to Crips sentiment? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50
LOL, somebody got offended. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #57
funny Mosby Nov 2012 #63
I think that the post was a reference to the blatantly racist campaigns run by many Republicans. yardwork Nov 2012 #65
But you know what atreides1 Dec 2012 #76
"You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse." FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #67
Funny, but why was that also my first thought? AAO Nov 2012 #53
This is why right wing domestic terrorism is never acknowledged PerceptionManagement Dec 2012 #78
Wow. They really are superior aren't they? Kber Nov 2012 #2
Legends mtasselin Nov 2012 #3
Wonder how many had Romney signs on their lawns. nt kerouac2 Nov 2012 #4
According to their Frau Peggy Noonan Tutonic Nov 2012 #25
for every romney sign you saw in NC barbtries Nov 2012 #27
For every Romney sign in my neck of the Maine woods magical thyme Nov 2012 #54
I actually doubt it - those groups would consider most freepers to be way too liberal Posteritatis Nov 2012 #40
geezus...the Racists and their meth! barnabas63 Nov 2012 #5
freedom fighters for the great state of Texas. mountain grammy Nov 2012 #6
No. kentauros Dec 2012 #68
Learn How To Spell. Please. Paladin Dec 2012 #74
oops, shit! Always have trouble with that word, must be the 8 years I lived in Texas. mountain grammy Dec 2012 #75
3.3 Million Texans Recently Voted For Obama. Paladin Dec 2012 #79
Yes they did, and one was my wonderful, 85 year old aunt in El Paso mountain grammy Dec 2012 #80
Good For Her. Long May She Abide. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #81
Wait. The leaders' name is Kelly Elley? Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #7
Kelly Elley, 2 by 4, made it thru the prison door... Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #11
Then bent over, asked for more. (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2012 #19
Prison rape jokes aren't cool in my book... Earth_First Nov 2012 #23
I don't object when it's violent racist miscreants. Just sayin'. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #33
It's NOT a rape joke.. reACTIONary Nov 2012 #42
So then it's a gay joke, which is ok... Hugabear Nov 2012 #59
Nope, its not a gay joke... reACTIONary Nov 2012 #61
Dying to know.... sammymantha Dec 2012 #66
!!! janx Dec 2012 #72
Probably likes jelly in his belly. Orrex Nov 2012 #12
That's what I noticed first too-- janx Dec 2012 #71
funny thing is..... sammymantha Dec 2012 #82
Good thing the Sons of Anarchy didn't get to them first. rucky Nov 2012 #8
Oh. My. God. Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #14
ONG zabet Dec 2012 #83
Real choirboys DemoTex Nov 2012 #10
Next they need to arrest the Congressman oldbanjo Nov 2012 #13
License plate factory The Wizard Nov 2012 #15
Murder? ailsagirl Nov 2012 #16
Horrible. So glad to see these people will face justice. AllyCat Nov 2012 #17
zi just wonder momsrule Nov 2012 #18
Unfortunately, prison is just one great networking opportunity for these guys starroute Nov 2012 #21
Eric Holder John2 Nov 2012 #22
You have no idea what the President, Vice President, the underthematrix Nov 2012 #49
Will Rick Perry pardon them? They are his "base" jpak Nov 2012 #24
Wait til you hear what THIS texas republicon had to say... alp227 Nov 2012 #41
rec 34 d_b Nov 2012 #26
No thugs in our house, are there, dear? stlsaxman Nov 2012 #28
It was Andy Partridge's birthday on Sunday waddirum Nov 2012 #64
go FBI - like to see my tax dollars at work like that toby jo Nov 2012 #29
I'm glad the Feds sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #30
Excellent point.. well said! 2banon Nov 2012 #32
Wonder if this will spun to further convince the frightwingers that Obama is coming for 'em... freshwest Nov 2012 #31
Thank the Gods for the FBI. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #35
We have the Southern Poverty Law Center's decades of monitoring to thank for this. ancianita Nov 2012 #36
exactly right Duppers Nov 2012 #46
Off to the Obama labor camps for republicans itsrobert Nov 2012 #43
R-80 (nt) Kurovski Nov 2012 #44
Hopefully these people are being watched and all their ilk and sympathizers.... Pachamama Nov 2012 #45
Yay! shenmue Nov 2012 #47
nope qkvhj Nov 2012 #51
...then the Republicans need to publicly denounce the hate mongers Berlum Dec 2012 #84
I wonder if there is a link to assassination threats BainsBane Nov 2012 #52
This sounds like Breaking Bad but in real life lunatica Nov 2012 #55
Yes, but I bet they didn't have the blue stuff. n/t janx Dec 2012 #73
Hmm.. so the excuses surrounding domestic terrorism coming from FBI/CIA Iggy Nov 2012 #56
Kick! sarcasmo Nov 2012 #60
Employees of Walter White Enterprises. nt Remmah2 Dec 2012 #69
sounds like an episode of SOA. ileus Dec 2012 #70
"methamphetamine and cocaine." malz Dec 2012 #77

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
39. Once you're off in things like Aryan Brotherhood territory, probably not
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nov 2012

Most of those groups refuse to even recognize the US government as a legitimate entity - you know, the ZOG bullshit and all of that. They might support some fringe fascist candidate come election times, though seeing as most of those are vowing to dismantle the whole system anyway I'm not sure if that counts.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
62. I would bet no
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
Nov 2012

They don't register in the first place, would be my guess. Responsible citizens register to vote and then actually go do it. People like this don't do responsible things the rest of us do without thinking.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
34. They probably vote third party
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:55 PM
Nov 2012

The super-far right (not Freepers, they are only super far-right to us) doesn't like Republicans because of their Israel policy and wars.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
58. True enough
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:33 PM
Nov 2012

But to get the black guy out, i think they may have put aside their hatred of Israel for just one day.

Mosby

(16,320 posts)
38. if they were 34 crips arrested
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:25 PM
Nov 2012

Would you say "34 less Democratic voters"?

You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
50. Can you point me towards prolific Democratic support and appeal to Crips sentiment?
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:22 AM
Nov 2012

I mean besides the prevalence of the color blue.

Mosby

(16,320 posts)
63. funny
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:23 PM
Nov 2012

I despise skinheads. You have no idea.

I just think that the average republican is uninformed not evil, and when we paint the average republican as a monster we are doing the same thing that the far right does to dems.

yardwork

(61,670 posts)
65. I think that the post was a reference to the blatantly racist campaigns run by many Republicans.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:20 AM
Nov 2012

There's no question that many Republican campaigns in recent years have been extremely, blatantly racist.

atreides1

(16,082 posts)
76. But you know what
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:26 PM
Dec 2012

If you choose to remain uninformed then you are part of the evil...with all of the information available no one has any excuse to claim ignorance, unless it's intentional!

I have in-laws who are Republicans...and their self inflicted ignorance is a form of evil. in my view.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
67. "You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse."
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dec 2012

Freepers are lying, racist, scumbags.

The "reverse" of that is being an honest, decent person.

I understand that many Freepers eat breakfast. So do I. Does that make me exactly like a Freeper?

(Maybe the fact that each side accuses the other does NOT make them equivalent)

78. This is why right wing domestic terrorism is never acknowledged
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:39 AM
Dec 2012

When you point out that the fascists in America are all republican (and some of them in government), it kind of makes them look bad. Meanwhile OWS are marked as terrorists and it's leaders marked for assassination. No one must ever impugn the Banksters or the 1%.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
25. According to their Frau Peggy Noonan
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
Nov 2012

the "number of law signs" that she saw for Romney was a sign that he was going to win the election. Funny how Peggy was wrong like the gang of 34.

barbtries

(28,805 posts)
27. for every romney sign you saw in NC
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:58 AM
Nov 2012

there were one or two obama signs that the republicans assholes stole. mine was one of the stolen ones.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
54. For every Romney sign in my neck of the Maine woods
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:51 AM
Nov 2012

there were 1 or 2 Obama supporters who didn't post signs for fear of retribution against our property or, worse, our furfamily.

Simply not worth the risk. Signs don't change anybody's mind, but around here they may make you a target of armed nutcases.

And when the nutcases here aren't in mom's basement eating cheetos, their hunting for meat to eat with the cheetos.

Actually there were very few signs in either direction in my area. I think we're mostly demoralized far right and Paul supporters, or Obama pragmatists like me who wouldn't put my critters and life at risk for no good reason.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
40. I actually doubt it - those groups would consider most freepers to be way too liberal
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

If they had signs on their lawns at all, they'd probably be for someone like Matt Koehl or his general neighborhood.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
68. No.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:05 PM
Dec 2012

I refuse to allow them the "pleasure". I'd rather they have to put up with the rest of us that do not want to secede.

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
74. Learn How To Spell. Please.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:10 PM
Dec 2012

The word you're groping for is "secede," not "seceed." If you're going to vilify my state, at least be coherent.

mountain grammy

(26,630 posts)
75. oops, shit! Always have trouble with that word, must be the 8 years I lived in Texas.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:33 PM
Dec 2012

Sorry, don't mean to vilify Texas. Some of my most lovable, dumb relatives live there, and I do love them. I still listen to Jim Hightower and give Molly Ivins' books at Christmas. Don't secede, Texas, just grow up!

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
79. 3.3 Million Texans Recently Voted For Obama.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:35 AM
Dec 2012

Don't expect to take a dump on the entire state of Texas, Democrats included, without there being some hostile responses---from grown-up Texans like me.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
7. Wait. The leaders' name is Kelly Elley?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:03 AM
Nov 2012

". . .alleged ABT leader Kelly Ray Elley . . ." I know, I know, sophomoric but it is kinda funny.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
23. Prison rape jokes aren't cool in my book...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
Nov 2012

Please consider removing your response, or I will alert on it.

Thanks!

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
42. It's NOT a rape joke..
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:04 PM
Nov 2012

...if you "ask for more", you aren't being raped. Prison sex is not necessarily rape. Just because your behind bars doesn't mean you must abstain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_sexual_behavior

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
61. Nope, its not a gay joke...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

... its an asshole joke. As in the big, bad, tough racist asshole has a silly, childish name and is into passive submission to physical abuse. Kind of a role-reversal thing.

Granted, this is very low, crude humor. But it isn't inhumane, insensitive glee about violent sexual abuse or denigration of gay sexuality.

sammymantha

(2 posts)
82. funny thing is.....
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:19 AM
Dec 2012

we were sort of dating for a few weeks.... Kelly and I.... and i didn't know anything about this till after he was arrested.... its just an extremely creepy realization i guess....

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
14. Oh. My. God.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:36 AM
Nov 2012

I LOVE that show! I don't have a TV service so am having to rely on friends in low places to get the current season. I'm only up to episode 5 so I have a LOT of catching up to do. One of the best series ever. Season 1-4 is now on Netflix.

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
10. Real choirboys
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:28 AM
Nov 2012

What charges does that leave? Treason, maybe?

Love the link to the Bend Bulletin! Makes me miss Bend. Snowing today?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
21. Unfortunately, prison is just one great networking opportunity for these guys
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
Nov 2012

They really should be locked up in a wing of their own with no opportunity to proselytize among the general prison population.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
49. You have no idea what the President, Vice President, the
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:25 AM
Nov 2012

Attorney General, the FBI, and the Defense Department are up against. Oh and don't forget the Secret Service.

alp227

(32,037 posts)
41. Wait til you hear what THIS texas republicon had to say...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

[linK:http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021782291|Peter Morrison, Texas GOP Official, Calls For 'Amicable Divorce' From 'Maggots' Who Voted For Obama]

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
28. No thugs in our house, are there, dear?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:05 PM
Nov 2012

all the while Graham slept on, dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
30. I'm glad the Feds
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:31 PM
Nov 2012

went after the Confederate trail park faction of the Republican Party in Texas. Now, if it'll just go after its Wall Street mansions in the Hamptons faction, I will be seriously impressed.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
31. Wonder if this will spun to further convince the frightwingers that Obama is coming for 'em...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:38 PM
Nov 2012
I can see the headlines in the conspiracy media:

Federal agents, under Executive Orders by Obama, arrest 34 enterprising, Second Amendment-loving Americans. They've take them to the FEMA death camps on fabricated charges! Run for the hills! Now it begins! We told you so!

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
36. We have the Southern Poverty Law Center's decades of monitoring to thank for this.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:01 PM
Nov 2012

Government agencies have depended on their help for awhile now. SPLC is the major medical center for a sick southern society.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
43. Off to the Obama labor camps for republicans
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:13 PM
Nov 2012

where they will be force to make Obama phones and print food stamps.

 

qkvhj

(57 posts)
51. nope
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:40 AM
Nov 2012

Saying these freaks are just repubs is like saying that the new black panthers are just dems.
Zealots get to me very quickly and I don't care what flavor they are. They do not represent any Americans I know or want to know. They are neither R or D they are just Fing crazy.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
84. ...then the Republicans need to publicly denounce the hate mongers
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:12 AM
Dec 2012

...silence is unacceptable. Dishonorable. The Republicans need to formally, loudly, and persistently disown hate and criminality.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
52. I wonder if there is a link to assassination threats
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:34 AM
Nov 2012

If they are cracking down in part because of increased threats against the president.

As for their voting: the one's without felony convictions would have voted for Romney in an effort to prevent Obama from being reelected.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
56. Hmm.. so the excuses surrounding domestic terrorism coming from FBI/CIA
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:07 PM
Nov 2012

i.e. "we can't stop it" are mostly bullcrap?

that's what I thought.



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