Racine County man admits to voter fraud to prove a point

[Dr. T]

Last edited Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:46 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: WISN 12 News, Milwaukee

Harry Wait, a resident and president of H.O.T Government, a watchdog group, admitted to requesting other people's absentee ballots to be sent to his own home in an effort to prove voter fraud loopholes in Wisconsin.

"I was notified that there may be vulnerability in the online WEC [Wisconsin Election Commission] voting system," Wait said. "So in order to test them on Tuesday night, we went online and we ordered ballots for Cory Mason, who is the mayor of the city of Racine, and Robin Vos, who happens to be our state assembly leader."

Wait wouldn't say who else was involved in the request process, but told 12 News several people wanted to see the results, but he was the one who hit the button to request them.

"After I did notify Robin Vos and Cory Mason that I had successfully logged into the WEC system and ordered their ballots to be sent to me," he said.
Requesting someone else's ballot is a crime. Wait is aware of that fact, and said it was worth the risk for "the greater good of the community."

"If that's what it takes to stop the fraud in our elections so we can have safe, real safe secure elections yes, I'll go behind bars," he said. "We actually videoed this whole piece and we will give it to the government if they want to prosecute me you know. Technically I did commit a crime, but there was no nefarious intentions with it, we just wanted to show how easily it could be done."

Read more: https://www.wisn.com/article/racine-county-man-admits-to-voter-fraud-to-prove-a-point/40748940

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This person must be held accountable and criminally charged. But, I'm not holding my breath.

[TheRealNorth]

1. IOKIYAR

And that is how Fascism works. Republicans get away with premeditated crimes while Democrats get max sentences, even if it was an unintentional mistake.

[catrose]

31. Such as 5 years for Crystal Mason, who filled out a provisional ballot

because she wasn't sure if she was eligible to vote.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/03/31/crystal-mason-texas-voting-ruling/

[TheRealNorth]

34. That's exactly my point.

I was also thinking about Hervis Roger's and Pamela Moses. At least the charges against Moses were dropped.

[TheRealNorth]

2. Just one more thing....

If you are ever driving through Racine County (particularly on I-94), be aware that the county sheriff department is very sneaky with their speeder traps.

[mackdaddy]

3. This seems like shoplifting to prove you can get away with it.

There is a reason why it is a CRIME. That is the first line deterrence.

Dumbass.

[sybylla]

27. Exactly.

Also, as a trained, experienced election worker, I can assert that such a crime would have been discovered before election day and said criminal would have been arrested and charged. This is not something you could get away with easily in WI.

These tools need to go to jail. Simply because you can do it doesn't mean you can get away with it.

[MichMan]

4. If he ends up receiving all those ballots, will the government employees be criminally charged ?

For sending someone other people's ballots ?

If some government employee is so incompetent as to send my absentee ballot to someone else without my permission, I expect them to be prosecuted and jailed.

[pnwmom]

30. Are you going to arrest the computers that did it? In my state, it wouldn't matter

if someone did this. If the real voter didn't get his ballot and complained, the fake one would be discovered. Then the real voter would have to come in and prove his identity.

If the real voter had moved out of the district, and the fake voter was using his name, the fake voter would also have to produce a signature that the computer in the elections office determined matched the one they had on file.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

5. Did he ever even RECEIVE those ballots?

The answer, per the article ... is no.

"He said he has not received those ballots yet as of Thursday, but was told it could take three days to receive them."

I'd imagine this 'request' was DOA as soon as he requested the ballots for Mason and Vos be delivered to an address different (i.e to him instead of them) than the home addresses these voters are registered to.

In other words, the asshole got busted at the very first step of the process. All his little experiment did was show 'well, the request website let me request it', that's it. People then REVIEW these requests, dumbass! And a different address is a HUGE red flag to such people.

On top of that, in order to be able to vote in their stead, he still has to be able to 1) forge their signatures, and 2) not get caught when Mason and Ros are denied THEIR absentee ballot requests, or get denied at the polls on election day, and rightly claim they never requested such a ballot/already voted.

And you're talking about a felony here if caught by any part of this well-secured and logical process.

BTW, did that happen AT ALL in the 2020 election? Other than by his fellow republicans caught voting in other's stead (all others in their own households), on accounta they 'had to offset the cheating Dems!!1!!'?

[Novara]

7. You're right

There are multiple levels of checks all along the process. Just being able to order ballots on a website proves nothing and certainly doesn't prove fraud.

Interesting how he didn't even wait for the ballots to be delivered without already screaming about a problem that doesn't exist.

Actual voting fraud is infinitesimal, and too insignificant to change elections. ELECTION FRAUD, on the other hand, is being codified into state laws by the GOP.

[sybylla]

28. This.

Sure, some conservative criminal (because they have historically) could order a ballot for their mother, but even that rarely survives the whole process. Also, it's not the same as claiming this is happening en masse.

[hay rick]

11. In Florida he can apply online but...

He would have to provide his birth date and either the last 4 digits of his ss number or his Driver's License number. Same if he wanted to put in a fraudulent change of address.

[PatSeg]

13. And the only thing he proved

was he truly is an idiot.

All the instances of "voter fraud" I heard of in the 2020 election involved republicans.

[Cha]

36. TY for all that!

Focus!
Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

[Samrob]

6. Fact: So far he has received none of the ballots he requested.

This may be a weakness in the requesting system but the proof would be in the counting pudding. Whether or not his fake ballots are counted or flagged for duplicate voting when the real individuals cast their votes is the real test.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

10. Also the signature check when the ballot is received

How many people a) know how to forge signatures, and b) know the signature of the person who's ballot they're stealing, and c) want to risk committing a serious felony ... just to cast an extra one or two votes besides their own?

Answer: it's very fucking few, if any.

Agreed, may be a weakness in request system but most likely it's because the request system is not directly connected to actual registration database (because that in itself is a sec. vulnerability), but it by NO MEANS indicates it's ACTUALLY practical to get away w/voting in another's stead.

Basically this asshole's experiment is just more bullshit gaslighting from the fascist right.

[aggiesal]

8. Irony Deficient ...

This guy is about to get arrested or admit to lying.

[Thomas Hurt]

9. Fool, there is no flaw in the system if you were not successful in getting the ballot.

You spilled the beans before you could have received it. I also don't buy the concern troll motive either.

He meant to commit fraud to create a right wing talking point. This wasn't about secure elections this was an attempt to prop up the Pig's big lie.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

14. +1000 (nt)

[jalan48]

12. To prove a point, throw his ass in jail

[Wild blueberry]

15. One more thing: he feels entitled to commit fraud because he's a white male

Charge him.

[LiberalFighter]

18. I'm going to use his age against him. I have that right. I'm a couple months older.

He is demonstrating his lack of intelligence regarding computer technology. Most from my time period did not dig into computer software and the internet like I did back in the early days like I did.

[ToxMarz]

16. Probably as an appropriate punishment

he could be sent to jail, you know, "technically".

[LiberalFighter]

17. Wisconsin is different from most states I believe.

Their elections are conducted by local communities and townships. The county itself does not conduct them.

In Robin Vos's case, he lives in the village of Rochester in Racine County.
Cory Mason is in the city of Racine.
While the idiot Harry Wait lives in Dover Township in Racine County.

I checked them and his address provided is different from Vos and Cory. If his stunt had been successful both of the addresses would have been the same as his.

[ZonkerHarris]

19. I wasn't robbing the bank. I was testing their security. Yeah, that's it!

[Martin68]

20. I'm sorry, but I find it hilarious that Republicans think that breaking electoral law to

expose mythical loopholes or security weaknesses is OK. But I guess it's been a Republican go-to tactic ever since James O'Keefe arrived on the scene. I still don't know how Jamie got off on the Louisiana charges.

[apnu]

21. What is he proving here?

That he can go to a web page and fill out a form? Nothing in the article says his request will be honored, forget getting the ballots.

Who in Wisconsin are processing and checking these requests.

This punk is intellectually lazy, and whomever followed and wrote this article is equally intellectually lazy.

[jmowreader]

22. There's nothing "technical" about the crime you committed, dear

However many years you can get for a charge of voting fraud, he needs two consecutive terms of it.

I checked the website of the group he’s in. In the FAQ they claim the group has no political affiliation…but they also have a Telegram channel and a very long list of extreme-right organizations they’re affiliated with, so the “No political affiliation” thing sounds like “some of my best friends are…”

[moonshinegnomie]

23. if you go to the website to request an absentee ballot you have to check a box

that says anyone who does it fraudulently will be reffered for prosecution . its a class I felony in wisconsin punishable by up to 3 1/2 years and a 10k fine.

i hope he enjoys prison...

[BaronChocula]

24. Someone tell that moron

that he would have been caught if he actually voted on those ballots and sent them back.

[moonshinegnomie]

25. criminal charges being considered

https://www.rawstory.com/wisconsin-elections-commission-delays-seeking-criminal-charges-after-fraudulent-absentee-ballot-requests/

[CaptainTruth]

26. He committed a crime. Charge him & prosecute him. Simple.

[Grins]

29. Headline is wrong!

It should have been:

“Racine County REPUBLICAN admits to voter fraud!”

Or is that just understood?

[TheRealNorth]

33. +1

[JohnnyRingo]

32. Bottom line: I don't want fraudulent elections.

In that regard, he's a hero. If he notified the media he was going to do it, he's a whistle blower, and thank goodness he found the holes.

If it was a less divisive thing to do right now, he'd be a white hat hacker. It has to be the narrative that this only proves one precinct was flawed, and is not evidence that it's widespread, or that democrats took advantage of it.

[Luciferous]

37. Except he only requested the ballots, he didn't

actually receive them. So he didn't prove anything.

[JohnnyRingo]

39. That does matter.

So he tried but failed. What an ass.

[czarjak]

35. If only there were a solution to cheating.

[Takket]

38. this proves nothing

#1: there is no evidence that in 2020 there was widespread voter fraud, let alone fraud as a result of people ordering absentee ballots for other people and successfully casting votes with them.

#2: You have to sign your absentee ballot in Wisconsin so even if you get the ballot and send it back, the signatures won't match, and you will be busted.

You aren't going to cast false votes this way and if you request enough ballots to actually make some sort of statistical difference, eventually a REAL person is going to request their ballot, and election officially are going to figure out what happened.

So yes, it should be fixed, but this neither proves any widespread voter fraud occurred, nor does it prove that widespread voter fraud COULD occur if this is abused.