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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:35 PM Nov 2012

Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC

Source: AP-Excite

By MEGHAN BARR and LEANNE ITALIE

NEW YORK (AP) - Frustration - and in some cases fear - mounted in New York City on Thursday, three days after Superstorm Sandy. Traffic backed up for miles at bridges, large crowds waited impatiently for buses into Manhattan, and tempers flared in gas lines.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the city would send bottled water and ready-to-eat meals into the hardest-hit neighborhoods through the weekend, but some New Yorkers grew dispirited after days without power, water and heat and decided to get out.

"It's dirty, and it's getting a little crazy down there," said Michael Tomeo, who boarded a bus to Philadelphia with his 4-year-old son. "It just feels like you wouldn't want to be out at night. Everything's pitch dark. I'm tired of it, big-time."

Rima Finzi-Strauss decided to take bus to Washington. When the power went out Monday night in her apartment building on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, it also disabled the electric locks on the front door, she said.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20121101/DA29GGPO1.html




A long line of people wait for free distribution of dry ice in Union Square in the still powerless Chelsea section of Manhattan,Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012, in New York. Three days after superstorm Sandy walloped the city, residents and commuters still faced obstacles as they tried to return to pre-storm routines. (AP Photo/ Louis Lanzano)

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Exasperation builds on Day 3 in storm-stricken NYC (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2012 OP
didn't R$'s $5000 in photo-op donated goods get there yet? wordpix Nov 2012 #1
It will probably get worse before it gets better Mojorabbit Nov 2012 #2
Terrible, but to be expected. Americans are unrealistic sometimes. It was a MAJOR storm progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #3
Well said. n/t Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #5
We are so used to having everything at hand and getting a problem resolved quickly. gateley Nov 2012 #6
You are so right! susanwy Nov 2012 #8
It's no surprise that Americans are often viewed as over-grown, spoiled Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #13
I'd attribute the unrealistic expectations to living in a city all of one's life... slackmaster Nov 2012 #21
Our instant gratification culture evident elfin Nov 2012 #4
I'm sympathetic too. onenote Nov 2012 #9
Power outages, destruction and death are pretty much a way of life in Oklahoma, jtuck004 Nov 2012 #14
subway damage Carol Lynn Nov 2012 #7
Doesn't help that they're still holding the damn marathon. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #10
No shit BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #12
NYU hospital is dark but Goldman Sachs is well-lit. Thank goodness Mr. Charlie ok. jtuck004 Nov 2012 #11
Turning into Obamas Katrina mylegsareswollen Nov 2012 #15
LOL. People moaning about no power does not equal Katrina. NutmegYankee Nov 2012 #18
Ha. Obama's Katrina. It's that only if people like you Ineeda Nov 2012 #23
What!? Dash87 Nov 2012 #25
Not even close. Jazzgirl Nov 2012 #26
Obvious Republican troll is obvious. nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #29
The frustration is understandable . . . markpkessinger Nov 2012 #16
Wow. Like being a paycheck away from homelessness... Matariki Nov 2012 #17
Obviously as an Inhabitant of New Orleans. I would say why are they even rebuilding? Katashi_itto Nov 2012 #19
Power should be on tomorrow brooklynite Nov 2012 #20
kind of feel for you guys fingrinn Nov 2012 #22
After Gaston here in central Virginia, I was without power for 27 days. mikeytherat Nov 2012 #24
There a many people there and many opinions treestar Nov 2012 #27
It took us YEARS to get back to normal after Andrew tavernier Nov 2012 #28
But we must still have the marathon! adigal Nov 2012 #30
They need to harden up fingrinn Nov 2012 #31
Yeah well...wait until this happens. Phoonzang Nov 2012 #32

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
1. didn't R$'s $5000 in photo-op donated goods get there yet?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:39 PM
Nov 2012

seriously, though, NYC should be better prepared than this 11 yrs. after 9-11.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
2. It will probably get worse before it gets better
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:41 PM
Nov 2012

It is why everyone should have a week's worth of staples so that emergency officials won't be overwhelmed trying to meet some basic needs. My heart
goes out to them.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
3. Terrible, but to be expected. Americans are unrealistic sometimes. It was a MAJOR storm
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

things will be bad for while. No matter how hard everyone works to return to normal, it doesn't happen in a few days, sadly. I think the problem is trying to return to familiar routines before everything is closer to being normal. People are trying to commute, etc., and it's just not realistic for many people. This was an historic storm, that has not been seen in my lifetime... and it hit such a populous and hard to navigate place even when there is no storm.

I think even the people who are living this in New York, are being overly optimistic about returning to normal and that is causing a lot of problems. I wish the employers would just tell people to stay home until Monday, with pay (or perhaps a streamlined unemployment claim process for the days missed. Is that possible?)

But you HAVE to love the Japanese people. After their horrific disaster recently, there was NO anger, no bitching, they understood that everyone was doing the best they can. America and the media here seems to be an outrage machine. It's only been a few days... it will take time.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
6. We are so used to having everything at hand and getting a problem resolved quickly.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:53 PM
Nov 2012

We lose it when our Internet service goes down. We really don't know how to deal with situations like this.

susanwy

(475 posts)
8. You are so right!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:03 PM
Nov 2012

I love NY, but come on people, this was a big storm! I have no doubt that utility crews, relief agencies and first responders are doing all they can to get everything up and running. Lets follow the model of the Japanese....and not forget that this storm hit Haiti and the Caribbean hard too!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. It's no surprise that Americans are often viewed as over-grown, spoiled
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:43 AM
Nov 2012

children by much of the rest of the world.

Childish behavior is defined by demand for instant gratification and low tolerance for delayed reward.

As a people, the Japanese tend to demonstrate adult reactions when faced with adversity.

They are inculcated with the more mature mentality of "Survival of society over satisfaction of the individual."

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
21. I'd attribute the unrealistic expectations to living in a city all of one's life...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:11 AM
Nov 2012

...and never learning how to cope with surviving in the wilderness.

I'm an American as well, and am accustomed to being in the dark at night and not having electricity or running water. It's not difficult to prepare for a few days without power.

Unfortunately, a lot of people grow up in cities now and never have the experience of camping.

This was an historic storm, that has not been seen in my lifetime...

Several disasters of greater magnitude have happened within your lifetime. You've seen them all on TV and in the newspapers. Perhaps you had not yet realized that a widespread disruption of infrastructure could happen to you.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
4. Our instant gratification culture evident
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:50 PM
Nov 2012

Never mind the way in advance warnings - "I want my connected life back NOW " along with fully stocked groceries etc.

Full sympathy here, but also despair at the low info populace and the expectation that huge problems can be solved immediately.

Also evident in the incomprehension of the magnitude of the problems facing Obama and the expectation that he could solve everything instantly to their satisfaction despite the horrific conditions and the powerful obstructions in his path laid by the repugs.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
9. I'm sympathetic too.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:07 PM
Nov 2012

I have family in the one of the hard hit areas. But its been three days. Last June, the Derecho ripped through the DC/Baltimore area. THere were thousands of people who didn't get power restored for more than a week, at a time when temperatures were in the upper 90s. No two situations are the same, but people do sometimes seem to have minimal appreciation of the difficulty in fixing massive destruction.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. Power outages, destruction and death are pretty much a way of life in Oklahoma,
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:07 AM
Nov 2012

Arkansas, Texas, Kansas, Missouri from tornadoes - they deal with this every year, never on this scale, and it still takes a couple weeks, even with crews from other states pouring in.

This is much more widespread, spotty. More left than there was after a tornado cleared a half-mile wide swath through a populated suburb o OKC, but that's just an illusion. Many of these homes and buildings people are still in are complete losses, they just don't know it yet.

It may not be the last one, either. I wonder if they will just perch them all back up there on that tee for the next shot?




Carol Lynn

(21 posts)
7. subway damage
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:59 PM
Nov 2012

I've been reading some updates on Lower Manhattan's subways, and it looks like getting them drained, inspected, repaired could take months. Deep breaths everyone . . . we are in this for a while.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. NYU hospital is dark but Goldman Sachs is well-lit. Thank goodness Mr. Charlie ok.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:13 PM
Nov 2012


As predicted, we put more effort into saving his house than he did.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
18. LOL. People moaning about no power does not equal Katrina.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 06:07 AM
Nov 2012

I've been out of power for a week. You bitch and moan. It's normal.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
23. Ha. Obama's Katrina. It's that only if people like you
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:30 AM
Nov 2012

and Faux News make it so. Perhaps you should go stir the sh*t somewhere else.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
25. What!?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 09:16 AM
Nov 2012

1000s died in Katrina, and people were raping or killing each other daily. The two can't even be close to compared.

The National Guard is deployed to NYC. This is all to be expected after a major disaster.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
17. Wow. Like being a paycheck away from homelessness...
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 04:47 AM
Nov 2012

We seem to be a nation that's a disaster away from third world status. We really need to be spending money on modernizing our infrastructure.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
19. Obviously as an Inhabitant of New Orleans. I would say why are they even rebuilding?
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:03 AM
Nov 2012

Its obvious they are prone to Hurricanes and being an Island. Even more vulnerable.

No rebuilding!








God that was something that truly annoyed me when the Repukes started that meme about NOLA.

 

fingrinn

(81 posts)
22. kind of feel for you guys
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 08:26 AM
Nov 2012

After the EQ last year that killed 183 people in my home town we were without power for 13 days, got really sick of BBQ meals
and i had to walk 3 kms for fresh water. Hang in there, knowing soon thing will get back to normal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. There a many people there and many opinions
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 10:10 AM
Nov 2012

So why do they choose - Michael Tomeo? Why did they choose his opinion to feature? He was probably surrounded by many others.

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
28. It took us YEARS to get back to normal after Andrew
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 10:11 AM
Nov 2012

Am I wrong, or did this storm not just hit less than a WEEK AGO???

This extreme impatience for instant complete recovery couldn't possibly be politically motivated, could it?

 

fingrinn

(81 posts)
31. They need to harden up
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

Try surviving an 7.1 EQ that killed 183 people and having no power or water for 13 days, you learn to survive pretty quickly and realize whats important.

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